India-China Border conflict

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Sorry I have never heard of this knowledge in China



Can you explain "han" and "hua"?
If I find that news article, I will post it
I read it in newspaper couple of weeks ago in the editorial .
 

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Chinese are dubious from the beginning.

British India offered them the more conservative Macartney–MacDonald Line (na tera na mera kind of deal) this line approximately divided the Aksai Chin area between India and China. But did they adhere to it? Until 1958, China unofficially accepted this line. But they further came down the line in 1962, which they now call the "China Claim Line".

If Aksai Chin is a cold borderless wasteland, than why should even China claim it?

When they say they have historical claims, than we too have historical claims of that area.

In 1893, Hung Ta-chen, a senior Chinese official at St. Petersburg, provided a map which coincided with the Ardagh–Johnson line in broad details. It showed the boundary of Xinjiang up to Raskam. In the east, it was similar to the Ardagh–Johnson line, placing Aksai Chin in Kashmir territory.

The GoI clearly knows for a fact that even if they accept the so called dubious "1959 Chinese line", the border dispute will not die down. They will still be claiming ARP and Ladakh.
If Aksai Chin is a cold borderless wasteland, than why should even China claim it?

it is a wasteland , but Chinese needed a road to connect lhasa in tibet and xingjiang , india borders two chinese provinces , xingjiang (muslim majority) and tibet . both were not under control of PLA , but commie PLAs occupied both around 1950 . if the PLA wanted to go from lhasa to xingjiang , they had to take a ~2000 km round route . a shorter route went through aksai chin , which they started building in 1950's .

seems like only people who gave a shit about this place were dogras , british and Mao's PLA . nehru didnt even know chinese were building that road .

👀 Tawang also has an interesting history , but there we have a proper treaty with Tibet .
 

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If I find that news article, I will post it
I read it in newspaper couple of weeks ago in the editorial .
It is inevitable for foreign media to make some mistakes



Not everyone knows enough about Chinese history and culture
 

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Ok i understand, elaborate more
Though its midnight here , let's talk tomorrow about this , shall we ?
It’s simple, there was no logistical thought behind forward policy. The men were cut off, starved, with ww1 lee Enfields. No one could win in those circumstances, but more often than not Jawans fought till the last man and last bullet. Also, units fougjt without arty in several places
 

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If Aksai Chin is a cold borderless wasteland, than why should even China claim it?

it is a wasteland , but Chinese needed a road to connect lhasa in tibet and xingjiang , india borders two chinese provinces , xingjiang (muslim majority) and tibet . both were not under control of PLA , but commie PLAs occupied both around 1950 . if the PLA wanted to go from lhasa to xingjiang , they had to take a ~2000 km round route . a shorter route went through aksai chin , which they started building in 1950's .

seems like only people who gave a shit about this place were dogras , british and Mao's PLA . nehru didnt even know chinese were building that road .

👀 Tawang also has an interesting history , but there we have a proper treaty with Tibet .
Concoct a fantasy story than claim the land on that basis. That is the Han Chinese way of decieving the world.

All agreements were with made with Tibet, while China was facing a so called "century of humiliation".

China required Aksai Chin only after illegaly occupying Tibet and parts of Xinjiang.

Where was China before 1911?
 

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Concoct a fantasy story than claim the land on that basis. That is the Han Chinese way of decieving the world.

All agreements were with made with Tibet, while China was facing a so called "century of humiliation".

China required Aksai Chin only after illegaly occupying Tibet and parts of Xinjiang.

Where was China before 1911?
Even we can do jhumlas, but the "claim" only happens when we grab a part of land and fortify it( add fake civilian settlements for extra "legitimacy" ) and ching has been doing this since independence here, unopposed in the more smaller incidents like in AP where they had a full village inside AP close to the border.

At the end of the day claims are only jhumlebaazi, only squatting and holding onto the land determines who owns it.

And they have laser sharp focus to gain and hold more land, unbothered by 5 year elections cycles, or 200 million strong fifth columns, regime change or inflationary pressures.

Also admiring the chong is one thing, but spamming the ching spiel about 1962 is stupidity :bplease:
 

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ching has been doing this since independence here, unopposed in the more smaller incidents like in AP where they had a full village inside AP close to the border.
China constructing Border Villages near ARP border only means that, they are firm with their claim on ARP. They don't want settled borders neither in Ladakh nor ARP.
 

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These days It's raining Chinese MSS agents

It's rather the agencies knew which holes the rats were hiding in, and only now are being dug out in order to send a "message".
Who knows, if in coming months some more gandmasti is done by chings at the LAC, maybe BBK, Xiaomi and all will be next to meet the fate of tiktok.
It is no coincidence that the ED and Taxman are after those companies.
 

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It's rather the agencies knew which holes the rats were hiding in, and only now are being dug out in order to send a "message".
Who knows, if in coming months some more gandmasti is done by chings at the LAC, maybe BBK, Xiaomi and all will be next to meet the fate of tiktok.
It is no coincidence that the ED and Taxman are after those companies.
Unfortunately there's not much headway we can make in this area until Non-Choynese smartphone makers step in to fill the void which looks unlikely in the near future. Apart from Samsung which other company can offer phones in the 10-20k range?
 

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