India-China Border conflict

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[DEV1729]

A little OT, but some of the votes are amusing to say the least.
> Myanmar votes to kick Russia out (recently US officially recognised the "genocide" of the Rohingyas).
> Russia's slav brother Serbia also voted for the motion, they reportedly got some minor sanctions relief from the US.

The myanmar rep at un is from the previous democratic regime as junta is sanctioned

 

[Photon]

Half A Dozen Chinese Y-20 Cargo Jets Popped Up Over Europe Last Night (Updated)

The flight of Y-20 transports reportedly delivered weaponry to Serbia but also served as a demonstration of China's growing global reach.

www.thedrive.com

 

[India Super Power]

Half A Dozen Chinese Y-20 Cargo Jets Popped Up Over Europe Last Night (Updated)

The flight of Y-20 transports reportedly delivered weaponry to Serbia but also served as a demonstration of China's growing global reach.

www.thedrive.com

This is an awesome capability
The benefits of mass producing y-20 aircraft is wonderfully seen here
These can be workhorse of aerial military logistics
This can literally increase the chances of winning wars against their enemies
We are here facing trouble in acquiring these systems c-17 closed and il-76 is literally worthless due to serviceability
We need heavy class transports as indigenous solution not available thanks to our establishment what other options exists with similar capability

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[patriots]

 

[Blank]

 

[sorcerer]

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[mist_consecutive]

This, along with this


Might be signaling a big push from the USA to abandon the Russian camp and join USA's camp. This might be a combination of both a big-carrot as well as stick diplomacy by the USA.

Difficult situation for India I will say. We can safely migrate to USA's camp without compromising much of our capabilities, we ought to do it, in my opinion.

Even though the USA is an unreliable partner, it will be still better than improvised and declining Russia, which will have no aptitude to help us in any manner anymore. It will be a matter of a few years before China absorbs Russia by debt traps and buyouts. Then we will be in the same situation (China blocking us technology and spare parts) as what we will face if we make the jump today.

 

[ezsasa]

This, along with this


Might be signaling a big push from the USA to abandon the Russian camp and join USA's camp. This might be a combination of both a big-carrot as well as stick diplomacy by the USA.

Difficult situation for India I will say. We can safely migrate to USA's camp without compromising much of our capabilities, we ought to do it, in my opinion.

Even though the USA is an unreliable partner, it will be still better than improvised and declining Russia, which will have no aptitude to help us in any manner anymore. It will be a matter of a few years before China absorbs Russia by debt traps and buyouts. Then we will be in the same situation (China blocking us technology and spare parts) as what we will face if we make the jump today.

on abandoning russia, even if India wants to, it will take atleast 10-15 years excess military spending to get to that stage, don't have that luxury at this point in time.
muricans on the other hand may block military sales, just because if aakar patel gets arrested. it's been seven years and still they haven't made a decision on selling us armed drones, probably because of pakistan.

 

[FalconSlayers]

it's been seven years and still they haven't made a decision on selling us armed drones, probably because of pakistan.

Maybe they don’t want to share the pleasure with Indians which Uncle Sam used to get by doing drone attacks on Pakistan .

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

This, along with this


Might be signaling a big push from the USA to abandon the Russian camp and join USA's camp. This might be a combination of both a big-carrot as well as stick diplomacy by the USA.

Difficult situation for India I will say. We can safely migrate to USA's camp without compromising much of our capabilities, we ought to do it, in my opinion.

Even though the USA is an unreliable partner, it will be still better than improvised and declining Russia, which will have no aptitude to help us in any manner anymore. It will be a matter of a few years before China absorbs Russia by debt traps and buyouts. Then we will be in the same situation (China blocking us technology and spare parts) as what we will face if we make the jump today.

Nah, few problems

1)Residual (and good) hardware we have from russians will lose spares, we will lose the TOT we used to get for subs, missiles, etc. I dont think russia will fall into chinese debt trap, they have good reserves and have been running on federal surplus for a few years (instead of deficit like all other countries)

2) US presidents happen to be very finnicky. Till US public sentiment is still anti Indian, till their news calls us "partially free","backsliding democratically" etc we will never be able to trust them. American public doesnt understand much foriegn policy but feels very compelled to comment on it - Thus forcing leaders to take action, even in a token form. For example - CAATSA on India makes no sense, but since they applied it to turkey, they want to look "fair" to home audience and thus are still tight lipped. A few days back a couple of murican exfarts were calling for sanctions as well.

 

[ezsasa]

Maybe they don’t want to share the pleasure with Indians which Uncle Sam used to get by doing drone attacks on Pakistan .

them idiots, we will never know what the brown sepoys are advising them. i won't be surprised if it is a silly reason.

 

[mokoman]

This, along with this


Might be signaling a big push from the USA to abandon the Russian camp and join USA's camp. This might be a combination of both a big-carrot as well as stick diplomacy by the USA.

Difficult situation for India I will say. We can safely migrate to USA's camp without compromising much of our capabilities, we ought to do it, in my opinion.

Even though the USA is an unreliable partner, it will be still better than improvised and declining Russia, which will have no aptitude to help us in any manner anymore. It will be a matter of a few years before China absorbs Russia by debt traps and buyouts. Then we will be in the same situation (China blocking us technology and spare parts) as what we will face if we make the jump today.

they wont do anything , not when we have bigger stick

we are planning to consider to create committee to looking to setting stage to consider defence deal for maybe possibly buying the F-18 hornet from USA , sometime this century .

they will have to back off .

tests for landing hornet on vikrant are being planned in May ,

would be a shame if the deal gets broken off.

US F-18 fighters to be tested for INS Vikrant at Goa on May 21

US F-18 and French Rafale-M carrier capable fighters in consideration for India’s second aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, which will be commissioned on August 15, 2022 by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Covfefe]

This, along with this


Might be signaling a big push from the USA to abandon the Russian camp and join USA's camp. This might be a combination of both a big-carrot as well as stick diplomacy by the USA.

Difficult situation for India I will say. We can safely migrate to USA's camp without compromising much of our capabilities, we ought to do it, in my opinion.

Even though the USA is an unreliable partner, it will be still better than improvised and declining Russia, which will have no aptitude to help us in any manner anymore. It will be a matter of a few years before China absorbs Russia by debt traps and buyouts. Then we will be in the same situation (China blocking us technology and spare parts) as what we will face if we make the jump today.

on abandoning russia, even if India wants to, it will take atleast 10-15 years excess military spending to get to that stage, don't have that luxury at this point in time.
muricans on the other hand may block military sales, just because if aakar patel gets arrested. it's been seven years and still they haven't made a decision on selling us armed drones, probably because of pakistan.

Nah, few problems

1)Residual (and good) hardware we have from russians will lose spares, we will lose the TOT we used to get for subs, missiles, etc. I dont think russia will fall into chinese debt trap, they have good reserves and have been running on federal surplus for a few years (instead of deficit like all other countries)

2) US presidents happen to be very finnicky. Till US public sentiment is still anti Indian, till their news calls us "partially free","backsliding democratically" etc we will never be able to trust them. American public doesnt understand much foriegn policy but feels very compelled to comment on it - Thus forcing leaders to take action, even in a token form. For example - CAATSA on India makes no sense, but since they applied it to turkey, they want to look "fair" to home audience and thus are still tight lipped. A few days back a couple of murican exfarts were calling for sanctions as well.

Other than the finicky nature of Washington aunties, subhuman sepoys and military dependence on Russia- one more very important aspect is regional Geopolitics. With Russia gone, we can kind of forget any meaningful engagement with Central Asia. Then comes Iran, and given the tail wagging the dog syndrome of Israel -US relations I fear that'll be compromised too. Iran is 1) a close neighbour 2) a closer neighbour of Pakistan 3) Oil source 4) gateway to CA and Afghanistan. Our northern and Western continent will become cold to us. I don't see either the Democrats or the Republicans cutting a slack for Iran. On the eastern front Myanmar is kinda sold of to the Chinese, Muricans would want to pincer that bogey even further. Kanglus are good for nothing but will most likely play the neutral game like India did in cold war- inclined towards China. India might end up in a difficult neighborhood, if we take the liberty of getting ahead of ourselves. Relation with America has less bilateral nature, it wants to come in full portfolio of the choices one can make.

 

[mokoman]

proposal from beijing before wangs last visit :

1 step back for me , 10 steps back for you . "win-win" , LOL

India said no to China proposal on pullback from Hot Springs

Government sources said China proposed that Indian troops, who have been in an eyeball-to-eyeball confrontation with Chinese troops at PP 15 for almost two years now, move back to the Karam Singh Post between PP 16 and PP 17.

indianexpress.com

if the plan is to tar and lay a road from their base upto y-junc at new LAC . it will be a BIG BIG ESCALATION.

wonder how we will react

a) kadi ninda

b) another soft push , capture some peaks

c) war

d) strongest possible kadi ninda

 

[fire starter]

on abandoning russia, even if India wants to, it will take atleast 10-15 years excess military spending to get to that stage, don't have that luxury at this point in time.
muricans on the other hand may block military sales, just because if aakar patel gets arrested. it's been seven years and still they haven't made a decision on selling us armed drones, probably because of pakistan.

Burger boys cannot be trusted if we get dependent on them for military hardware then they will use it as a leverage to fulfill their unrealistic demands.

We should not forget their main aim is our balkanisation.

 

[not so dravidian]

proposal from beijing before wangs last visit :

1 step back for me , 10 steps back for you . "win-win" , LOL

India said no to China proposal on pullback from Hot Springs

Government sources said China proposed that Indian troops, who have been in an eyeball-to-eyeball confrontation with Chinese troops at PP 15 for almost two years now, move back to the Karam Singh Post between PP 16 and PP 17.

indianexpress.com

if the plan is to tar and lay a road from their base upto y-junc at new LAC . it will be a BIG BIG ESCALATION.

wonder how we will react

a) kadi ninda

b) another soft push , capture some peaks

c) war

d) strongest possible kadi ninda

Saar, for normies, if road till y Jun means till finger 4 gone in Galwan valley??

 

[The Shrike]

on abandoning russia, even if India wants to, it will take atleast 10-15 years excess military spending to get to that stage, don't have that luxury at this point in time.
muricans on the other hand may block military sales, just because if aakar patel gets arrested. it's been seven years and still they haven't made a decision on selling us armed drones, probably because of pakistan.

I think we are the ones that are dragging our feet and not American reluctance - they are more than happy to sell MQ-9s, especially as their military is no longer interested in buying them (since they are moving on to more advanced stealth drones for "near peer" wars).

 

[mokoman]

Saar, for normies, if road till y Jun means till finger 4 gone in Galwan valley??

no all 3 are 3 different places . y junction is in depsang , finger 4 is in pangong tso , galwan valley is another place.

y junction is a valley in depsang . chinese are blocking us there from patrolling forward.

this is place in below pic .

building a road to here will be a big 'FUCK-YOU' to us .