India-China Border conflict

[Jimih]

this is vid i told about. not 100% sure if its galwan

@The Shrike @mist_consecutive check the vid

Notice the unloaded INSAS's

All part of CBM jumla, Which Chinese throwed in the dustbin.

 

[vidhwanshak]

ur right , one of the patch says 'bihar'

so this isnt a ITBP patrol , chinese on the other hand look like regular patrol , only 3 of them.

this makes it even more interesting

Did we withdraw willingly? Or did the Chinese forced us to withdraw?

 

[mokoman]

no, see the red rank flap in the video and compare them:
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They are either from Bihar or Madras regiment

dude on twitter translated kannada , i guess there is also madras regiment there.

Did we withdraw willingly? Or did the Chinese forced us to withdraw?

dont know

 

[Jimih]

Some good insights

 

[vidhwanshak]

don't know

Only the soldiers posted there from our side can tell the real story. let's wait for a decade or two for the real story to pop out

 

[mokoman]

@mokoman tell me I am not retarded and just seeing things because you suggested it

i just realised what u were pointing to , pretty impressive that u spotted this

Only the soldiers posted there from our side can tell the real story. let's wait for a decade or two for the real story to pop out

jan 12th is next talks , 100% sure gov would'nt let go of depsang without a fight .

if that happens chinese fuckers will release more pics,vids.

one chinese asshole on weibo posted screenshot of folder full of galwan vids.

thumbnail looked like clash vid at night ,

 

[mist_consecutive]

i just realised what u were pointing to , pretty impressive that u spotted this







jan 12th is next talks , 100% sure gov would'nt let go of depsang without a fight .

if that happens chinese fuckers will release more pics,vids.

one chinese asshole on weibo posted screenshot of folder full of galwan vids.

thumbnail looked like clash vid at night ,

The area ahead of the bottleneck is gone, we should accept it. We never had any real physical presence or control over that area anyway, patrol once a month does not equal control when the Chinese have made metalled roads over which they can run vehicles.

Releasing more pics is childish. What do they think ? GoI will say, ah we are defeated ! Please don't show any more pictures we will surrender ?

 

[The Shrike]

1. What next?
2. Well, I see a major China-India confrontation coming-up in next 5-7 years.
3. ....

Although a lot of people including some veterans seem to think there is a high probability of a conflict (i agree) - i don't think the government believes that to be the case, the practicality flat defence budget allocation points points to it.

 

[srevster]

Although a lot of people including some veterans seem to think there is a high probability of a conflict (i agree) - i don't think the government believes that to be the case, the practicality flat defence budget allocation points points to it.

In the art of deception, what you disclose is not what you do. India has been launching nuclear submarines under the radar

 

[The Shrike]

In the art of deception, what you disclose is not what you do. India has been launching nuclear submarines under the radar

Not completely surr what you are getting at - we have launched 1 nuclear submarine, which was probably under construction for the last 4-6 years.

 

[srevster]

Not completely surr what you are getting at - we have launched 1 nuclear submarine, which was probably under construction for the last 4-6 years.

The third is already launched.

 

[Jimih]

Although a lot of people including some veterans seem to think there is a high probability of a conflict (i agree) - i don't think the government believes that to be the case, the practicality flat defence budget allocation points points to it.

Defence budget is definitely the bone of contention.

2024-25 will be the year to watch out.

China will strive for some Optics.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Not completely surr what you are getting at - we have launched 1 nuclear submarine, which was probably under construction for the last 4-6 years.

Unfortunately the optics are bad. The gap between India and china gdp has only increased in the Wuhan virus years. World powers are going to ask india to refrain due to our low gdp as they would determine that india is still not there yet as a regional power and can jeopardize global economy. This might be one reason why the AUKUS was formed as other than naval exercises for maritime security, india can hardly build or buy toys needed for an offensive capability. The UK and Australia can. Note how the quad has been given a quiet burial. Notice how Modi has stopped saying $5 trillion by 2025. The big issue we have with gdp is lack of female labor force participation caused by poor literacy and human development among women. In China, women can be mechanics and even change truck tyres. There, women run construction companies, waste recycling companies, sell all sorts of stuff and do businesses equal to men. Women labor force participation is a must for India’s economy to grow. Without that, forget about competing with China or even Bangladesh where women‘s work participation is higher than us - a reason our per capita income fell behind Bangladesh’s.
There is no way we can compete with China or ASEAN countries without a lot more decent paying job growth and a lot more human development especially women and child development. Just half the country or less (male population) working is not going to grow our economy as desired. And even in that the labor force must move away from low income jobs like agriculture and road side hawking of cheap items.
I sometimes feel that india should lose militarily to China for everyone to be shamed into waking up and getting serious about economy and prosperity and human development.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Which country?

 

[Cheran]

Which country?

Natasha & Igor ?

 

[vidhwanshak]

@mokoman @mist_consecutive @rvats @hit&run

Do you agree with this? Because this is the only apt explanation of the video posted by mukambo on the thread above.

 

[hit&run]

@mokoman @mist_consecutive @rvats @hit&run
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Do you agree with this? Because this is the only apt explanation of the video posted by mukambo on the thread above.

There is a difference between occupation and periodic patrol by small contingents. The guy seems English illiterate.

There was never Indian occupation of the buffer zone or sizeable permemnent military presence that can be called occupation like we have in Siachen (using the same word).

 

[mokoman]

@mokoman @mist_consecutive @rvats @hit&run
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Do you agree with this? Because this is the only apt explanation of the video posted by mukambo on the thread above.

he is wrong , we gave up territory willingly , later they then moved in against agreement , then clash .

just check this thread , it has satellite images .

 

[mist_consecutive]

he is wrong , we gave up territory willingly , later they then moved in against agreement , then clash .

just check this thread , it has satellite images .

@mokoman the buffer zone you marked, is it accurate ? Do we have access to PP14 ? I know China don't, infact they have rigorously maintained the sanctity of the buffer zone like a good boy they became after getting the beating.

AFAIK buffer zone stretches 1km on both sides from PP14.

 

[Jimih]

Natasha & Igor ?

They should be concerned about their own neighbours now, Kazakhstan is up in flames and Ukraine is sitting on a tinderbox.

First put your own house in order.