India-China Border conflict

[THESIS THORON]

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no one is interested to Do research in india, most of the students go to us or eu. And they stay there, rather than coming back.

and only people who do phd in iit,nit,iisc.. some oth reputed private colleges have something to contribute in research sector.

 

[THESIS THORON]

no one is interested to to research in india, most of the students go to us or eu. And they stay there, rather than coming back.

and only people who do phd in iit,nit,iisc.. some oth reputed private colleges have something to contribute in research sector.

70% of the people have naam ki phd not kaam ki phd.

 

[nixin]

70% of the people have naam ki phd not kaam ki phd.

Yes it's true for US ,China also, in my previous last two semesters for my course projects in AI ML ,Networks and Advance d Data Structures ,I and my many friends studied many research paper topics which were mostly Chinese,Taiwense, later found and verified many of them were scams and their implementations was just made up.

In humanities we all know you have to call Indian subcontinent as south asia to get PhD from woke western universities and it's true for everywhere.

Genuine and outstanding innovative research in STEM is hard for everyone though ,but we can say it require resources (money,good mentors and professors and Excellent teaching methodologies)for sure which we obviously lack relatively to the west and PRC.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Yes it's true for US ,China also, in my previous last two semesters for my course projects in AI ML ,Networks and Advance d Data Structures ,I and my many friends studied many research paper topics which were mostly Chinese,Taiwense, later found and verified many of them were scams and their implementations was just made up.

In humanities we all know you have to call Indian subcontinent as south asia to get PhD from woke western universities and it's true for everywhere.

Genuine and outstanding innovative research in STEM is hard for everyone though ,but we can say it require resources (money,good mentors and professors and Excellent teaching methodologies)for sure which we obviously lack relatively to the west and PRC.

aap out of india ho kya ??

 

[Jimih]

If the chinese decide to attack, they probably will do something similar to 62. A force of overwhelming fire power. They can choose when and where and IA will be decimated everywhere they attack. Everything will depend on how we respond. Political will to respond even if china declare a unilateral ceasefire and victory, to increase the threat to multi dimension and use the Navy to hurt the chinese economy because that is what going to actually hurt the chinese. A trent i'm seeing today is a gvt that care more about its image rather than national security and territorial integrity.
Another thing will be the quality of Indian military leadership under stress because in the first days of war, we will see battalions size forces being wiped out. In 62, everybody ran.

Again 62 comparison? Indians must come out of this past self-loathingness, Indian Army has already came out.

This govt has the will, it has already shown and showing.

Chinese are not some Captain America type super heroes. And what I see here on DFI that there is no dearth of Chinese fan boys.

Chinese PLA is this, Chinese PLA is that, Chinese army will decimate IA, Oh! Pls stop this Bullcrap.

 

[altruist ROR]

no one is interested to to research in india, most of the students go to us or eu. And they stay there, rather than coming back.

and only people who do phd in iit,nit,iisc.. some oth reputed private colleges have something to contribute in research sector.

Sir, mostly, at least in the Computer Science stream, students go abroad for higher studies only to get a better package. This trend may soon end coz Indian startups are paying hefty salaries with wfh option which is quite cost effective as compared to cost of living in CA, NY, Seattle keeping aside the MS fee. Most importantly will save generation from pseudo US culture and wokeism.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

India cannot compete with China with a defense budget of $70B when Chinese are spending $270-wo0B. That is because their overall central gov budget is close to $3 trillion. Our budget is close to just $600 billion central government. At 1/5th of Chinese government budget, our hands are tied in all areas - from science and technology to infrastructure to defense spending. If we truly want to compete with China, we have no option but to become a $10 trillion + economy with a central gov budget of at least $2 trillion. This should give us money to do a lot of grand R&D and cutting edge defense technology. The sad thing is even IITs, IISCs, and other to; institutes have poor infrastructure and even poorer R&D and lab facilities. India’s private company R&D in defense is just getting there but the technology being produced is basic and nothing even remotely world beating. We have to visits this topic in 2030 and see where we are. India needs a 10-20 year plan where no matter which party comes to power, they all must constitutionally commit to making India a $10 trillion economy through massive investments and growth. Our constitution needs to be effectively rewritten to eliminate freebie culture, merit-based advancement of society, a large focus on science and technology, complete elimination of criminals from politics etc. Modi and BJP have a lot of work to do to set india up for the next 10-20 years. There are criminals waiting to take over governance and derail India’s progress and if this government does not institutionalize systems and make it difficult ffor criminal political parties to take India in a different direction, then should BJP lose India’s growth will be derailed posing serious national security risks and loss of territory to China. BJP must take such institutionalization seriously and not blindly believe that it will be in power every time to secure India’s interests. Many constitutional amendments must be pushed through to secure the country;s long term interests especially in funding science and technology R&D, increasing world-class science talent, and building civil and defense infrastructure.

It is true. We need a hybrid response to China. It should be a combination of Economic, Diplomatic, military and Propaganda policies together. FIrst of all we need to emerge as a strong economy and a substitute of China as a factory of the world. We have become strong in automobile and we are fully capable of responding China in almost all the areas. Bajaj and TVS has started doing that in Africa by getting 80% of Chinese automobiles companies shut in Africa. We have started doing good in Mobiles and electronics but we are far behind in part manufacturing which we need to push hard. SO far as as military hardware production is concern, we have done excellent job and we have surpass China in many areas but we need to work on production rate. We need to push our R & D further and we will outperform China in quality of defense stuff in few years (We have already done it in many areas). SO far as diplomacy is concern, we have started act east and dismantling of String of pearl with mere diplomacy. Like US's arrogance has weakened it in recent years, China will become weak in days to come because of wrong policies practiced by China.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Sir, mostly, at least in the Computer Science stream, students go abroad for higher studies only to get a better package. This trend may soon end coz Indian startups are paying hefty salaries with wfh option which is quite cost effective as compared to cost of living in CA, NY, Seattle keeping aside the MS fee. Most importantly will save generation from pseudo US culture and wokeism.

I am not sir, call me bro or tag me pls.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Sir, mostly, at least in the Computer Science stream, students go abroad for higher studies only to get a better package. This trend may soon end coz Indian startups are paying hefty salaries with wfh option which is quite cost effective as compared to cost of living in CA, NY, Seattle keeping aside the MS fee. Most importantly will save generation from pseudo US culture and wokeism.

it will end, but we need better infra in research institutes, colleges (like west).

 

[HariPrasad-1]

came across this tweet.

while the sentiment is in the right place, there should also be discussions on what are the fundamentals based on which "adventurous response" is not being undertaken by Indian security establishment.

problem statements and expectations are a plenty in the country, it's the solutions that are lacking from the civilian sphere.
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Russia, with $1.5T economy, forced US/NATO to negotiating table.

What stops India from standing up to China ?
It's NOT about economy but political will.

China's entire game of "salami slicing" is based on the assumption that India won't risk an escalation to a full blown war.

Even Iran has stood strong against US. We have already put China on backfoot. Modi's cold and well conceived responses are long term and highly effective. We saw against opposition parties of India, We saw this against Pakistan and now his policies have started sawing its effect against China.

 

[altruist ROR]

Shoot if they try to outnumber you

 

[notaname]

https://in.usembassy.gov/number-of-indian-students-in-the-united-states-surpasses-200000-for-first-time/

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You should provide some explanation with these charts and some of your opinion about it, that would be great.

 

[vidhwanshak]

Shoot if they try to outnumber you

aisa kuch hua tha?

 

[srevster]

You should provide some explanation with these charts and some of your opinion about it, that would be great.

I think in terms of war fighting capabilities, global researchers are doing a lot of work in the countries to build defense capabilities. India needs to do more to attract foreign research talent to work for India. Right now US imports the most talent. China and India constitute the main sources of migration. We should reverse this trend and make India a hub of innovation with international collaboration.

In order to compete with China, the US depends on immigration. But India has huge human capital, we need to double down on R&D

 

[notaname]

I think in terms of war fighting capabilities, global researchers are doing a lot of work in the countries to build defense capabilities. India needs to do more to attract foreign research talent to work for India. Right now US imports the most talent. China and India constitute the main sources of migration. We should reverse this trend and make India a hub of innovation with international collaboration.

In order to compete with China, the US depends on immigration. But India has huge human capital, we need to double down on R&D

Agree with you on this, we are gradually doing this we never had this much focus on R&D we are looking into it now so it will take time and for attracting foreign talent we first need to address utilisation of our own resources properly after that we can look outside because in India itself we have so much talent just need proper guidance and support system.

 

[nixin]

aap out of india ho kya ??

I am 20 lol and study in NIT Tiruchirapalli .

 

[Crazywithmath]

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Do you have any chart comprising of emerging economies? Would be interesting to see. Also, this piece of data looks a bit outdated; anything more recent will be helpful. Thanks in advance.

On the wealth side, the number of HNIs leaving the middle kingdom varies in between 3-5X that of India; depending on the survey under consideration. Philippines and other ASEAN nations fare worse. Also, outward migration for higher education might not necessarily be a bad thing (not to forget that not all the students are taking admissions in the best US universities; although studying abroad has its own benefits howsoever low the institution might rank) ; how many people come back on completion of their education/research?

 

[maximus777]

Sir, we need to hold our horses. We should indeed counter them with iron fist in the challenged areas and diplomatically at other fronts but no unnecessary heroism. Reason being our economy is still not well established. First need to improve our ifras, connectivity, and manufacturing sector, especially semi-conductor.

It will never be a full scale war that will drag on for months/years. It will be a short sharp skirmish. So we should maximize the impact in my opinion. The power differential between IA v/s PLA is far lower than PA v/s IA and factoring in the landscape, we should be able to be a far greater pain to them than PA can ever be to us. Sinking PLAAN ships/subs and recording them will be far greater spectacle/loss of face in the subsequent Info War than hand to hand combat in the mountains. The Farmville/Candy Crush crowd will have anxiety issues seeing those pictures/videos on social media!

 

[ezsasa]

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ensure your commentary is also included along with such posts, we can’t read minds.


except for 3 countries on that list, everyone else is a former coloniser. India, Swiss & Brazil

 

[Jimih]

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