India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

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Do we have any incident with AUSSIES where they back stabbed us that we dont trust them.. I know in world of politics , u dont trust ur own blood but still...
They were the one who made loudest noise during Pokhran.

Also CCP has heavily infiltrated their political scene. So we don't trust them
 

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Do we have any incident with AUSSIES where they back stabbed us that we dont trust them.. I know in world of politics , u dont trust ur own blood but still...
They had dropped out of original Malabar exercise configuration to avoid upsetting the Chinese, that policy continued up until the current Aussie PM.
 

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Arey baba!!! Today is Thursday, weekly MEA press conference.

Just because we don’t have info on a few things, world doesn’t stop spinning.
Point is, is it necessary to follow such customs when your enemy is giving statement on disengagement on daily basis?
These Babus should be more proactive & before chinese could tell the world "Disengagement as per plan" we could have given daily statement highlighting "bat eaters are not keeping up words".
 

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They had dropped out of original Malabar exercise configuration to avoid upsetting the Chinese, that policy continued up until the current Aussie PM.
yeah so if current guy is trustable than i see no challenge looking at short term benefits...... am sure we too would had such incident where we opposed some thing of aussies as well....
 

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Point is, is it necessary to follow such customs when your enemy is giving statement on disengagement on daily basis?
These Babus should be more proactive & before chinese could tell the world "Disengagement as per plan" we could have given daily statement highlighting "bat eaters are not keeping up words".
Why show bat munchers that we are giving them too much importance to them.... act like a routine business and than screw when really needed....
 

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Also there would no easy pullback this time because it would be DOKLAM 2.0

And this would be serious loss of face for China with rest of the countries in Asia rallying around India for their overall defence.
So , they have come here to send msg to all the remaining Asian countries.
Xi Jinping has already declared victory to his public through local media. They don't want to turn it into another Doklam for sure. Also any sort of De escalation is pure bullshi*. Xi Jinping is incharge of everything in China & unless he & Modi talk like they did in Wuhan during Doklam nothing matters. And as I said they don't want another Doklam.
 

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Xi Jinping has already declared victory to his public through local media. They don't want to turn it into another Doklam for sure. Also any sort of De escalation is pure bullshi*. Xi Jinping is incharge of everything in China & unless he & Modi talk like they did in Wuhan during Doklam nothing matters. And as I said they don't want another Doklam.
Completely true. And so far there has been no statement from Xi that he wants peace and tranquility restored at the border. It means that "teaching India a lesson" or "putting India in it's place" is still his objective. His is the only voice that matters from China. The rest are just implementing his decision. And right now all the statements by the Chinese Ambassador and the protracted army to army negotiations are nothing more than tactical moves to reach the primary objective of "putting India in it's place".
 

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Do we have any incident with AUSSIES where they back stabbed us that we dont trust them.. I know in world of politics , u dont trust ur own blood but still...
Back stabbing is a probably an inappropriate term here but the Australians behaved very rudely after Pokhran including throwing out Indian military personnel out of some training courses, making critical comments on the GoI and on the Indian people for celebrating.

Payback was swift, they had recalled their HC and wanted India to ask for him to be sent back ( same probably with Canada). They were told that they had recalled their HC and they can come back whenever they wanted, GoI wasn’t going to ask anything. The HC finally came back and soon after asked to speak to the PM. Was told PM is unavailable. Asked to speak to Dy.PM. Advani, was told unavailable. Asked to speak to any senior minister, same answer. Finally got the point and asked to speak to the Foreign Secretary. Was told too busy. When he asked in irritation who will he speak to, he was told that person in charge of specific geographical area including places like Fiji, Australia etc might meet him. Furious he sent his deputy, she promptly sent hers. An Australian Dy.PM had to make a visit of India ( he was the only one who hadn’t said anything adverse, their FM was not given an invite) and even he was not granted an audience with Vajpayee but post that visit, things eased.

That by itself is not important, the Japanese too were very critical and even though the GoI was tolerant of Japanese criticism initially because of their history with nuclear weapons, the Japanese too crossed lines in their reaction and GoI treated their ambassador with some harshness, he actually complained that protocol wasn’t followed. When Japan offered aid post a cyclone in Gujarat, GoI said that it’s official policy to accept no aid from Japan. We have come a long way from then in Indo Japan relations.

Most scandinavian countries who gave India substantial aid but also regularly sermonised all were told that their aid would not be accepted and all loans returned. Different time but a ruthlessly proud government then too.
 
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Back stabbing is a probably an inappropriate term here but the Australians behaved very rudely after Pokhran including throwing out Indian military personnel out of some training courses, making critical comments on the GoI and on the Indian people for celebrating.

Payback was swift, they had recalled their HC and wanted India to ask for him to be sent back ( same probably with Canada). They were told that they had recalled their HC and they can come back whenever they wanted, GoI wasn’t going to ask anything. The HC finally came back and soon after asked to speak to the PM. Was told PM is unavailable. Asked to speak to Dy.PM. Advani, was told unavailable. Asked to speak to any senior minister, same answer. Finally got the point and asked to speak to the Foreign Secretary. Was told too busy. When he asked in irritation who will he speak to, he was told that person in charge of specific geographical area including places like Fiji, Australia etc might meet him. Furious he sent his deputy, she promptly sent hers. An Australian Dy.PM had to make a visit of India ( he was the only one who hadn’t said anything adverse, their FM was not given an invite) and even he was not granted an audience with Vajpayee but post that visit, things eased.
Right so stakes were evened out... Move on... Aussies have most probably learned their lessons.. why spoil ur future for past and present...Why have old tales stuck to ur chest like dead monkey...
 

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Ambassador is speaking like a gobar time journalist... his language is highly objectionable for being the representative of bat munchers....and a diplomat...

I call this subtle threatening. I am hoping babus at MEA will call him on
 

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Ambassador is speaking like a gobar time journalist... his language is highly objectionable for being the representative of bat munchers....and a diplomat...

I call this subtle threatening. I am hoping babus at MEA will call him on
He is an contributor to the Communist Time's .
 
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