India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[LDev]

I believe he should avoided making such statements at this juncture.

Nehru's non-alignment in-doctrination is so complete and thorough that is still lives and breathes today.

 

[mokoman]

Interesting article Any thoughts are welcome.The author is a veteran (I cannot verify)

IRAN DEAL: HAS CHINA STEPPED ON A VISIBLE LANDMINE

In a recent development in July 2020, Iran-China inked a $400 billion deal. This is a 25-year pact:

• Iran doesn’t gain much from the deal, other than immediate relief from the American sanctions.
• Which would get China a considerable bargain on the Iranian oil.
• China will invest $400 billion in the Islamic nation over a period of 25 years.
• China will invest $280 billion in oil, gas, and petrochemicals.
• China will invest $120bn in transport and manufacturing, within the first five years.
• The deal would expand economic development in 100 odd diverse fields, including banking and infrastructure, such as airports, high-speed railways, subways, and 5G telecommunications(this would give Iran, China-style censorship of the internet).
• Iran-China set up an industrial town in the southern port city of Jask, to establish and develop different industries, including petrochemical, refinery, aluminum, and steel industries.
• China will get priority to bid on any new project in Iran that is linked to these sectors.
• China will get a 12 percent discount and it can delay payments by up to two years.
• China will be able to pay in any currency it desires.
• China will receive total discounts of nearly 32 percent.
• 5,000 Chinese military personnel to be stationed in the country to protect their interests and the Chinese air force would be given access to Iranian bases.

Full article
https://insightful.co.in/2020/07/17/iran-deal-has-china-stepped-on-a-visible-landmine/

If China does invest billions in Iran to build their gas and oil infra , what stops US and Israel from blowing it all up .

Tensions in Syria , Iraq , Palestine , Lebanon between Iran and Usa-Israel wont reduce anytime soon.

US could hit Iranian pipelines , refineries without much blowback like when they killed Qasem Soleimani.

 

[muralidon924]

 

[sorcerer]

China is entering the FUBAR Zone!

UK suspends Hong Kong extradition treaty and extends China arms embargo to the city

UK suspends Hong Kong extradition treaty and extends China arms embargo to the city

The UK will suspend its extradition treaty with Hong Kong "immediately and indefinitely" due to the controversial national security law implemented in the city by mainland China.

edition.cnn.com

UK's arms embargo on China?
WTF?
when did china start buying stuffs from other nations!

They prefer to shamelessly steal and make low quality duplicates

 

[Sehwag213]

Lol at Geopolitics Experts last couple days

Vested interest
I mean who knows, Iran themselves are capable of planting such news.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

China is entering the FUBAR Zone!

UK suspends Hong Kong extradition treaty and extends China arms embargo to the city

UK suspends Hong Kong extradition treaty and extends China arms embargo to the city

The UK will suspend its extradition treaty with Hong Kong "immediately and indefinitely" due to the controversial national security law implemented in the city by mainland China.

edition.cnn.com

UK's arms embargo on China?
WTF?
when did china start buying stuffs from other nations!

They prefer to shamelessly steal and make low quality duplicates

UK was part of EU that has a ban on weapon sales to China. After Brexit UK no longer
in EU so they may be giving their own independent policy??

 

[sorcerer]

Here’s a Chinese app that escaped the ban by India, and is booming

ByteDance launched Resso in March this year after a testing phase in India and Indonesia. It had licensed music from Sony Music Entertainment, Warner Music Group, Merlin and Beggars Group, as well as big Indian publishers such as T-Series, Saregama, Zee Music, YRF Music, Times Music, Tips, Venus and Shemaroo, as well as Speed Records, Anand Audio, Lahiri Music, Divo and Muzik 247, according to a TechCrunch report.

Here’s a Chinese app that escaped the ban by India, and is booming

As much as 74 per cent of downloads have been in India for the Resso music-streaming app, which dubs itself a social app like TikTok.

www.deccanchronicle.com

Tag the GoI and lets kick this one back into Xi's soft orifice

 

[LDev]

India is getting a lot of support from USA which is quite unusual. But EAM is not confident about USA relationship, that much I can see.

That is because while the current administration has been very supportive of India in this China border situation; in fact they have been the only global power to unequivocally come out in support of India, what the EAM will be wary about is continuing support from the US should Biden win in November. India has to get assurances that there is bi-partisan support in the US establishment that the current posture of backing India will continue irrespective of which party is in power in the US.

The problem though is that for the US such un-questioning bi-partisan support is only extended to treaty partners precisely because the US is treaty bound to support them and so that support is never questioned by either political party. Therefore it is a chicken and egg situation. If India wants to count on un-questioned US backing with both parties it has to go in for some kind of treaty or quasi treaty situation with the US. That is why the EAM was wrong in making such a categorical statement at this stage. He should have just said, "India will make those kinds of decisions based on our strategic interests." And leave it at that for now.

 

[sorcerer]

UK was part of EU that has a ban on weapon sales to China. After Brexit UK no longer
in EU so they may be giving their own independent policy??

Possibly...but lets see if they (UK) have the spine to implement that. .They didnt have the spine when collectively with the European union..and now with the Jihadi Infestation in UK...dont know how strong they can "IMPLEMENT" those blah blah blah they do in the media.

 

[Kalki2020]

Only positive of left liberal gang ruling the west is they don't support Christian missionaries and extremism of radical groups and believe more on immigration. These things as a society is beneficial for india.
If we develop some type of immunity from their pressure on kashmir and other domestic policies we can take them for ride. Even some of the liberal gang people are against Chinese aggression.

Most of Indian emigrate to US or elsewhere dump their identity (mostly Hindus) & adopt cross for the sake of assimilation. I know one case, two previous generations lived as cross bearer for same assimilation theory & then wisdom of ISKCON dawned on some of their white master, whole family reverted back to hindu fold in one go. This is classical case of Stockholm syndromes of our breed.
Btw never trust western liberals, they are most duplicitous & ardent supporter of Phukistan & Islamists. ISI with the help of Arab warlords used to raise the funds for these gang's in west which is why India has been on their radar. Remember Ilhan Omar, how she was vociferously attacking us over 370 & CAA ....

Post 2014 situations are slowly changing & social media has played big role in turning up the tide in our favor.

 

[Knowitall]

All the people here who are harping about US support and how helpful they are.

Just one question for you guys.

Let's say US finally manages to put a leash on china and put them down.

Who do you think will they come for next?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

All the people here who are harping about US support and how helpful they are.

Just one question for you guys.

Let's say US finally manages to put a leash on china and put them down.

Who do you think will they come for next?

They will come for Russia.

 

[tarunraju]

All the people here who are harping about US support and how helpful they are.

Just one question fir you guys.

Let's say US finally manages to put a leash on china and put them down.

Who do you think will they come for next?

No one, because India didn't claim a 9-ling-ling line in IOR. We have a golden opportunity to score a military victory against China by simply forcing them to restore the May 2020 status quo, and if it costs some formation sailing with the USN fleet, so be it.

Unless China escalates elsewhere and opens new fronts, right now the India-China clusterfuck is as follows:

• If India can force China to restore the May 2020 status quo, India wins and China loses
• If China can get India to accept the new ground reality, China wins, India loses

Either outcome is equally easy for the side that desires it.

 

[ARVION]

Another Female Ughyer's Brainwashed by the CCP's .

 

[Sanglamorre]

All the people here who are harping about US support and how helpful they are.

Just one question for you guys.

Let's say US finally manages to put a leash on china and put them down.

Who do you think will they come for next?

Yeah, some unspecified time in future while China that is trying to usurp land is at the gates.

This is some bogeyman people raise everytime but offer no alternate solution.

 

[tarunraju]

Hey @ARVION, you now have >25% of the posts in this thread. I suggest you reduce posting in this thread, especially the off-topic posts. Else, I'll have to send you on a friendly vacation just to de-addict you from this thread.

 

[LDev]

All the people here who are harping about US support and how helpful they are.

Just one question for you guys.

Let's say US finally manages to put a leash on china and put them down.

Who do you think will they come for next?

500 years ago the Muslims were the defenders and protectors of the Jews against the Christian hordes!! Fear of what the future may bring should not paralyze you to act in your best interests as of today.

 

[ARVION]

Hey @ARVION, you now have >25% of the posts in this thread. I suggest you reduce posting in this thread, especially the off-topic posts. Else, I'll have to send you on a friendly vacation just to de-addict you from this thread.

Sorry but can continue on other Thread's ?

 

[tarunraju]

Sorry but can continue on other Thread's ?

A diversity of other threads, provided you're close to the topic.

 

[Indrajit]

All the people here who are harping about US support and how helpful they are.

Just one question for you guys.

Let's say US finally manages to put a leash on china and put them down.

Who do you think will they come for next?

I don't agree with your line of thought but even if I assume that is true, do you really think that's a valid concern now? When the Chinese are a clear and present threat? Let's worry about hypotheticals later shall we, we need to deal with the present.

It's a bit like saying there's a cure for COVID right now but we don't know the very long-term effects. I can't imagine people risking death right now to worry about imagined possible long term consequences.