India-China 2020 Border conflict

[NAMICA]

They will nevar start the war they cant win. Furthermoar do note the one fag policy and weak pension policy has ensured that all old people with long lives must be dependents on their only children. This is now an irreversible phenomenon, at least in this century. Who will send their sole bread earners to die in war? Six pension-less old people depend on one working child. If that conscripted child dies in war how will they survive? When winnie the pooh exhorts his plafags 'not to fear death', it indicates a huge hole in human capital .That also explains the global times propaganda about heated barracks, hot water for troops, oxygenation, drone supply, medical facilities, superior clothing - the quality of plafags is totally gay and shit.

Don't be surprised if they open forced breeding centres these communists can go to any extent.

 

[Suhaldev]

 

[shade]

Don't be surprised if they open forced breeding centres these communists can go to any extent.

Currently the one child rule has been expanded to 3 child rule, with nationalistic "produce more bacchas for the motherland" propaganda being applied, along with incentives.
Ofc as if the urbanized Han is willing to produce more little Hans who will eat into his prospective material comforts?

 

[NAMICA]

Currently the one child rule has been expanded to 3 child rule, with nationalistic "produce more bacchas for the motherland" propaganda being applied, along with incentives.
Ofc as if the urbanized Han is willing to produce more little Hans who will eat into his prospective material comforts?

I don't think they are even now willing to marry so leave producing kids.

 

[sorcerer]

Currently the one child rule has been expanded to 3 child rule, with nationalistic "produce more bacchas for the motherland" propaganda being applied, along with incentives.
Ofc as if the urbanized Han is willing to produce more little Hans who will eat into his prospective material comforts?

with chinese marrying pakistani woman and hoping that they can "control" the jihadi DNA..well..thats pakistan simply letting it play tiill they have enough jihadi chinese mix and screw china from within

 

[FalconSlayers]

And what about chinese strategy of getting slaughtered ? Like 10k mongols on horse slaughtered 30 million chinese , then in ww2 a bunch of japs again slaughtered 30 million chinese , then their own fat mao again slaughtered 30 million chinese holy kek .

And then we slaughtered their 500+ Soldiers in 1967 and 1000+ in 1962 and 43+ in 2020.

 

[Knowitall]

I don't think they are even now willing to marry so leave producing kids.

same thing is happening in south India but thankfully north India is able to mitigate it for now. Our skewed gender ratio is also a huge problem as the upcoming generation will face an extremely lopsided demographic.

The region's total fertility rate (TFR) was less than the population replacement level of 2.1 for all states with Kerala and Tamil Nadu having the lowest TFRs in India at 1.7.

these commie infested states not only have a decreasing populace but a rising muslim and christian population. same in NE too.

they make think this is a good thing now but 20-30 down the line old age will be a real issue and will put up a lot of strain on the system.

This is why i dont support population control bill it can lead to very skewed demographics.

 

[another_armchair]

with chinese marrying pakistani woman and hoping that they can "control" the jihadi DNA..well..thats pakistan simply letting it play tiill they have enough jihadi chinese mix and screw china from within

Most of the Pakistani girls/women trafficked into China are Christian.

Even heretic Ahmadiya's were spared by the pimps.

Pakistani Christian girls trafficked to China as brides

GUJRANWALA, Pakistan (AP) — Muqadas Ashraf was just 16 when her parents married her off to a Chinese man who had come to Pakistan looking for a bride...

apnews.com

 

[NAMICA]

with chinese marrying pakistani woman and hoping that they can "control" the jihadi DNA..well..thats pakistan simply letting it play tiill they have enough jihadi chinese mix and screw china from within

Well Chinese will turn into inbred but they will not able to erase jihadi DNA.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Pingpongs overall have transitioned to the whole "apathetic urbanite concerned only with material benefits" type of society, so that is why you see this behavior.
It is also why CCP does it's best to maintain economic growth, employment, consumption etc, since their entire legitimacy is derived from them being "good rulers" these last 40 years economic liberalism that country has had.
Chinese Nationalism is purely as of today a CCP sponsored project, the average Chong today is like many of his urbanized and apathetic counterparts in Korea, Japan, US, EU etc.

The fight has well and truly been taken out of the Chinese now, once CCP goes, all other shreds of their "nationalism" will go too.

Times have changed. Interests have changed. The past mistakes of deferring to chinese highhandedness needs instant correction. It is apparent that the 3feet yellow soup **** are not ten feet tall. Also, the Chinese Virus has generated immense and irreprarable negative political and human sentiment against China. As for China the past century has been cycles of self-humiliation, internal strife, and revisionism where the state has promised prosperity and nationalism for surrender of personal liberties. But Can China hold off countries whose determination stems from the suffering of their people? 100 nations have backed a jointaustralian and eu proposal to inquire into the origins of the Virus. India has also joined in. These are also the more affluent nations.It is reported that 80 million people have lost jobs, 20% Chinese households can survive 2-3 months without income and 40% a couple of months more. This is based on a survey of 120000 people by China Household Finance Survey and Research Centre, Chengdu. The situation is so serious that South China Morning Post has run a series of six articles on job loss and unemployment and they had to count bloggers and gamers as employed LMFAO !!!

See - https://www.marketplace.org/2020/08...ggers-and-gamers-as-employed-during-pandemic/

Don't be surprised if they open forced breeding centres these communists can go to any extent.

Ccp **** aint gods. They cant do shit buddy. China is the fastest aging country in history. All their attempts are epic fail now . People are not marrying or having a second child. Reasons include rising prosperity, opportunities for single women, young couples opting for single child and gender imbalance. . The population will reduce to about 1 billion by 2100.

See - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51145251
See - https://chinapower.csis.org/aging-problem/
See - https://www.statista.com/statistics/251535/child-and-old-age-dependency-ratio-in-china/

This has manifold implications. .It will not only screw plafags hooman capital but thar will be other implications as well. A smaller number of workers will have to take care of an increasing number of old and young people . As population ages, additional resources are needed to meet the needs of the elderly – medical, energy, housing, food. China has a very weak social welfare system for the aged. The percentage of unmarried men in their late 30's will quintuple by 2030. This will have adverse societal impacts. . When the work force declines, wages increase, productivity goes down and profits go down. Lesser workers means lesser consumption spending. China has no choice but to export and after corona virus nobody is willing to buy cheap chinese shit .

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

And then we slaughtered their 500+ Soldiers in 1967 and 1000+ in 1962 and 43+ in 2020.

We could have slaughtered moar if it wasnt for that MOST BETA NPC IN INDIAN HISTORY aka nehru.

 

[Knowitall]

Sun Tsu’s maxim of ‘winning wars without’ fighting has been liberally dosed out. However, I wonder if Sun Tsu had a contra maxim of how to lose wars without fighting. I am also pretty certain that our armed forces is well aware of this latest pla ******ry and will reply appropriately . But the effectiveness of a global power lies in its ability to win wars. The Imperial Japan , amreeka , USSR, proved that a superpower must shed blood – own and that of your enemy’s. Unless China is prepared to fight and win or seen to be winning it is simply not a superpower. One can talk endlessly of unrestricted warfare or multi domain warfare or all other kinds of warfare but wars have to be ultimately won on ground.
I feel that all domains of war still remain subservient to the age old principle of ‘Blood , Guts and Glory’. One cannot win wars and battles without violence and close contact. China’s cucks strategy of ‘Belligerent War Avoidance’ has not worked. That being said china is real but the dragon is certainly "mythical".

matter of fact is India china US UK Russia and most major powers avoid conflicts where they can.

US not responding to Russian aggression in syria and crimea. Russia itself taking over crimea mostly without bloodshed and then fighting using rebels same thing in syria. US itself has stayed away from Iran and venezuela handed over all major ops to Afghan army over the past few years. Nato allies slowly retreating from deployments.

hell even we are doing the same. Matter of fact is that our territory has been captured by both china and pakistan yet we have shown zero willingness to get it back. we didn't respond after balakot we didn't respond after galwan.

your idea that china has to shed blood doesn't make sense because they don't need to they are completing their objectives and landgrab so there is simply no need to fight.

wondering why they don't fight when they have no reason to fight at all. If they are getting what they want why fight at all.

 

[NAMICA]

And then we slaughtered their 500+ Soldiers in 1967 and 1000+ in 1962 and 43+ in 2020.

Chinese soldiers were slaughtered too in Vietnam and Korea.

 

[N4tsula67]

SMASH-2000

Thanks. Yeah now i remember. Can you post about that in detail in respective thread.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

matter of fact is India china US UK Russia and most major powers avoid conflicts where they can.

US not responding to Russian aggression in syria and crimea. Russia itself taking over crimea mostly without bloodshed and then fighting using rebels same thing in syria. US itself has stayed away from Iran and venezuela handed over all major ops to Afghan army over the past few years. Nato allies slowly retreating from deployments.

hell even we are doing the same. Matter of fact is that our territory has been captured by both china and pakistan yet we have shown zero willingness to get it back. we didn't respond after balakot we didn't respond after galwan.

your idea that china has to shed blood doesn't make sense because they don't need to they are completing their objectives and landgrab so there is simply no need to fight.

wondering why they don't fight when they have no reason to fight at all. If they are getting what they want why fight at all.

Did each of those superpowers used just harsh language in world war2 ? I dont think so . Russia today continues in an ‘ex-superpower’ dream. Its reality is that it is a cash strapped military power with a resource based economy. uk and france are economies with limited influence. Their acceptance as global leaders waned after ww2, amreeka is also divided and polarised right now .

Your belief of them being successful is half truth . Yes plafags have been successful but only against weaker nations . After 1962, China or any other country has not been able to resolve anything by force with India. The last time China tried something funny with India at Doklam, Galwan elsewhere they hit a wall and got a fucking bloody nose. If the ambush at Galwan had been successful and had the Chinese suffered lesser casualties, China would have declared victory but what we saw was totally opposite , it got screwed retreated and started talking peace .Currently China is outmanoeuvred by India in Ladakh and boxed in by amreeka and japs and a dozen plus nations in the China Seas. The PLA has turned up severely short on this score. When arraigned against professional and strong-armed forces it has become very clear that pla **** is an inexperienced cucks under transition. Neither fit for continental nor overseas engagements. Am I making big pronouncements? No .

On the top of that the drawbacks of plafags are evident in chinese white paper on defence . It is an overtly political paper. The focus is on organisation, mechanization, informationization and of all things micro-corruption! If a nation has to talk of rooting out micro-corruption from its armed forces in an international document, then it is admittance of nothing but totral incompetence lmfao.

See - http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-07/24/c_138253389.htm

 

[Knowitall]

Did each of those superpowers used harsh language in WW2 ? I dont think so . Russia today continues in an ‘ex-superpower’ dream. Its reality is that it is a cash strapped military power with a resource-based economy. uk and france are economies with limited influence. Their acceptance as global leaders waned after WW2 and collapse of their colonies amreeka is also divided and polarised right now .

Your belief of them being successful is half truth . Yes plafags have been successful but only against weaker nations . After 1962, China or any other country has not been able to resolve anything by force with India. The last time China tried something funny with India at Doklam, Galwan elsewhere they hit a wall and got a fucking bloody nose. Currently China is outmanoeuvred by India in Ladakh and boxed in by amreeka and japs and a dozen plus nations in the China Seas. The PLA has turned up severely short on this score. When arraigned against professional and strong-armed forces it has become very clear that pla **** is an inexperienced cucks under transition. Neither fit for continental nor overseas engagements. Am I making big pronouncements? No .

On the top of that the drawbacks of plafags are evident in chinese white paper on defence . It is an overtly political paper. The focus is on organisation, mechanization, informationization and of all things micro-corruption! If a nation has to talk of rooting out micro-corruption from its armed forces in an international document, then it is admittance of incompetence lmfao.

See - http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-07/24/c_138253389.htm

WW2 is of a different era and things have changed now. The transition phase from ww1 to ww2 was massive and the same is true now.

your quotes about Russia France and UK are all correct but the matter of fact we as of now suffer from even worse issues and while their influence has waned it has not disappeared simply due to the fact that there is simply no one there to fill the power vacuum. So while its true that they are no where near what they were during colonial times or the world wars they are still a force and have influence in the form of soft power weapon sales and whatnot. hard power is now not the only metric but there are many ways to maintain influence too.

I don't know what version of galwan you have read but i don't see it as win of any sort. They lost more men true but then again they don't care about losses what they wanted to see our response and we decided to not retaliate. we didn't counterattack against their ambush neither against their land grab. The same is happening in Bhutan now. doklam was indeed better since we held our ground.

japan and Asean countries are past the point where they are willing to fight wars. 3-5 years from now you can be assured that these countries will simply turn into vassals as they are integrated deeper into the Chinese economic framework.

Japan has its own huge population issues and public perception that prevents them from playing any major role in the coming years. japan and korea's recent trade deals and the incoming pacts with china simply show that they are willing to accommodate to bejing. none of this countries rest assured will be fighting or will be in a position to fight in the coming years.

Is the Japanese Public on Board With the ‘New Era’ of China-Japan Relations?

Japanese citizens will be the key to determining the success of the Sino-Japanese reset.

thediplomat.com

anyways i have found the Japanese to be willing to accommodate in existing power structures rather than carving their own place.

The only threat to China comes from India and USA and US as of now is a wild card as we will have to wait and see how the biden administration moves ahead.

As for war fighting capabilities as of now i am under the firm belief that do not have the training or experience to fight us or the US but this can change in the future as their forces continue to modernize.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

WW2 is of a different era and things have changed now. The transition phase from ww1 to ww2 was massive and the same is true now.

your quotes about Russia France and UK are all correct but the matter of fact we as of now suffer from even worse issues and while their influence has waned it has not disappeared simply due to the fact that there is simply no one there to fill the power vacuum. So while its true that they are no where near what they were during colonial times or the world wars they are still a force and have influence in the form of soft power weapon sales and whatnot. hard power is now not the only metric but there are many ways to maintain influence too.

I don't know what version of galwan you have read but i don't see it as win of any sort. They lost more men true but then again they don't care about losses what they wanted to see our response and we decided to not retaliate. we didn't counterattack against their ambush neither against their land grab. The same is happening in Bhutan now. doklam was indeed better since we held our ground.

japan and Asean countries are past the point where they are willing to fight wars. 3-5 years from now you can be assured that these countries will simply turn into vassals as they are integrated deeper into the Chinese economic framework.

Japan has its own huge population issues and public perception that prevents them from playing any major role in the coming years. japan and korea's recent trade deals and the incoming pacts with china simply show that they are willing to accommodate to bejing. none of this countries rest assured will be fighting or will be in a position to fight in the coming years.

Is the Japanese Public on Board With the ‘New Era’ of China-Japan Relations?

Japanese citizens will be the key to determining the success of the Sino-Japanese reset.

thediplomat.com

anyways i have found the Japanese to be willing to accommodate in existing power structures rather than carving their own place.

The only threat to China comes from India and USA and US as of now is a wild card as we will have to wait and see how the biden administration moves ahead.

As for war fighting capabilities as of now i am under the firm belief that do not have the training or experience to fight us or the US but this can change in the future as their forces continue to modernize.

Yes.. we have lost access to some territory.. but why do you ignore that we have also gained territory by occupying Kailash range heights.. After, losing the south pangong tso heights in 1962 war, we had never occupied it. After all, it is occupation, and not patrolling that really matters..

 

[Knowitall]

Yes.. we have lost access to some territory.. but why do you ignore that we have also gained territory by occupying Kailash range heights.. After, losing the south pangong tso heights in 1962 war, we had never occupied it. After all, it is occupation, and not patrolling that really matters..

i dont ignore it its just that to me even an inch of territory should not be given since congressi jholachaps have already given a lot. the other thing is that i really wished for retaliation when they attacked our troops furing galwan.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

India accuses China of helping proxies on Myanmar border

Indian officials say armed groups in Myanmar are acting as Beijing’s proxies by supplying weapons and providing hideouts to insurgents in India’s northeastern states.

amp.scmp.com

What do u make of India making its allegations against China public. Also, intelligence on naga leaders meeting chinee officials in Kunming city.. Hmm.. so we either have eyea in China, or moles in the naga group or both..

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Trump will do irreversible harm to China before Biden takes over. Yet after all such boycotts and sanctions how is chinki economy growing and that too fast.

They have been putting out fake economic numbers for decades.