India-China 2020 Border conflict

[NAMICA]

So it's final.

 

[Mikesingh]

PLA started moving back to Finger 8/Sirijap. All shelters being dismantled. Arty redeploying at positions around Sirijap. How long this entire op would take is the million-dollar question.

 

[maximus777]

So it's final.

Hopefully some “civilian” nuke assistance too so that Duterte can mount a nice 10KT gem on it.

 

[NAMICA]

PLA started moving back to Finger 8/Sirijap. All shelters being dismantled. Arty redeploying at positions around Sirijap. How long this entire op would take is the million-dollar question.

I think that we should have started from depsang first.

 

[NAMICA]

Hopefully some “civilian” nuke assistance too so that Duterte can mount a nice 10KT gem on it.

Nukes for sale

 

[Mikesingh]

I think that we should have started from depsang first.

Complete withdrawal from Depsang/Hot Springs will perhaps take a little more time.

 

[ArgonPrime]

Expectations :-



Reality :-

dude, those are Vietnamese, please refrain from insulting them.

 

[fire starter]

bakchodi shuru.

 

[fire starter]

bakchodi shuru.

Truth is PLA lost but they will use these madar****s sitting inside to project themselves as winner.

 

[fire starter]

 

[mist_consecutive]

Both sides pulling to F3 & Sirijap is acceptable (if implemented, which I highly doubt).

However, we should immediately capture the heights above Dhan Singh Thapa Post (F4 ridge) where the Chinese are sitting now. This way we will get a clear view of Chinese movement all the way deep into their territory, as well as defend from any incoming attack as well.

 

[utubekhiladi]

Both sides pulling to F3 & Sirijap is acceptable (if implemented, which I highly doubt).

However, we should immediately capture the heights above Dhan Singh Thapa Post (F4 ridge) where the Chinese are sitting now. This way we will get a clear view of Chinese movement all the way deep into their territory, as well as defend from any incoming attack as well.

does this mean, we should give up recently gained dominant heights on aug 30? what about other areas like depsang plains and gogra-hot springs etc?

 

[Akula]

I think we should not take this as a bigger victory. Big threat is coming in the future and we should not let our guards down. No more backchodi in summits like Wuhan summit 2018.

 

[Deadtrap]

I hope he actually rights an article. Promises everytime, never writes one -.-"

 

[mist_consecutive]

does this mean, we should give up recently gained dominant heights on aug 30? what about other areas like depsang plains and gogra-hot springs etc?

We haven't gained anything, have we? We are just sitting on our side of LAC (and China on their side). This includes heights like Rezang/Rechin La, Mukhpari, Gurung Hills etc.

And yes, if they abandon their dominant positions (on Gurung Hill, Black Top, F4 ridge) that will mean we have to too.

 

[NAMICA]

I think we should not take this as a bigger victory. Big threat is coming in the future and we should not let our guards down. No more backchodi in summits like Wuhan summit 2018.

I still wonder what was agreed in wuhan summit and what we got in return.

 

[prasadr14]

We are worrying too much about Chinese aggression,
not downplaying them but let's not over imagine & twist our selves.

India is NOT a priority to China, not in the near future, reason for that is that there is no easy way for them to cross Himalayas or Indian Ocean to attack us.
It's not a remote possibility. The maximum they can do is a short skirmish at border points.
In this case, India can absorb these skirmishes and even dish out mayhem at their border points as well - just like we are doing with Pakis.

Chinkies don't want that.

Coming to the whole fiasco in last few months....

Chinkies did not expect India to behave this way to salami slicing. They have been doing this shit for decades & we never pushed back. So, they came in expecting something similar.
the hard stance both militarily & economically is something Chinkies did not expect.

Their rollback is not unexpected, India is not a threat to them & they are not really a threat to us.
Their main focus & aim is more towards their eastern border.
They really can't afford to move significant portion of their military towards India and leave their eastern sector empty.
In case of war, they would pretty have to pull everything from everywhere and bring it to Indian border - which they cannot afford.

Any war with India will not a short, pretty or decisive one. What's worse, Chinkies would really end up getting hurt.

Bottom line....lets observe 2 minute silence for Paki female dogs who were wanking off to Xi raising CCP flag on red fort.

 

[johnq]

It's a mistake to withdraw from Finger 4 and other heights, while agreeing to turn everything up to Finger 8 into no-man's land, because up to Finger 8 is legitimately Indian side of LAC and India should be able to build infrastructure right up to Finger 8. The Chinese had no business moving forward of Finger 8 in the first place. Now the Indian side will follow the agreement to the letter, while Chinese will not. Treachery is in Chinese nature. I would not be surprised if the Chinese have already built underground facilities at/around these peaks, and they are simply going underground for the winter, which may appear to look like pulling back.
Instead of pulling back, India should turn all of its currently occupied heights into permanent well-defended bases like Siachen. India can also build underground facilities at/around these peaks for the winters.
There is also a more strategic reason for India to stay and turn the heights into strongholds. The Chinese are waiting until their CCP-controlled puppet becomes the US President before making their move. They will return post January 20, 2021, when their puppet will ensure non-interference by the US when PLA returns to Pangong Tso and other areas. When they return, it would be in India's interest if the heights it has currently occupied have turned into permanent strongholds with permanent roads and tunnels as supply routes.
PLA also need to be kicked out of Depsang Plains and other areas, and India should build permanent bases and roads right up to the LAC.

 

[AZTEC]

Latest photo of Project 15B Visakhapatnam-class destroyer for Indian Navy.
This class of destroyers is certainly among the best in the world, at least on paper. They are crucial for countering China in Indian Ocean region (IOR) and beyond.

 

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