India-China 2020 Border conflict

[BabaKhalbali]

 

[NAMICA]

Must read. Vacating those heights will be big blunder.

China will achieve its political aim – to secure the 1959 Claim Line and prevent development of border infrastructure. And, above all, it would make us vacate the strategic Kailash Range. Mark my words, the PLA knew of the importance of the Kailash Range in 1962 and it does so now. We must not repeat the folly to give up the Kailash Range because the PLA will make sure that we never get it back

 

[NAMICA]

wonder who started this dis-engagement bullshit from our side.

 

[NAMICA]

Seems like this proposal was put forward by some fat ass babu from South block on behalf of china but immediately rejected by army.

 

[Bhadra]

An agreement to disengage and withdraw from contested areas is not bad per se. Even after a war, there would have been an agreement to establish peace albeit at the terms of the victor. If the status quo can be achieved with an agreement. there is nothing wrong with it. Well obtaining status que as on 01Apr 20 was the stated political objective as outlined by GoI.

Agreements are not bad and even earlier agreements were weak because of lots of loopholes in those which the Chinese exploited to their gains. Only those agreement work where we have ways and means to enforce / or make the other side comply to the terms and provisions of the agreement.

So it is first for the Army and MEA to come in terms with each other to understand and agree to what should be part of the agreement, particularly in all its military implications. MEA should not be allowed to thrust roughshod on the Army which is more of a rule rather than an exception with MEA.

The agreements must have foolproof and workable verification and preventive measures that ensure the implementation of the terms and conditions. It must be an enabler rather than enforce unrealistic conditions. Patrolling, surveillance and infrastructure development work must be allowed unhindered or unobstructed.

But everything starts from and ends with the fundamental issue - an agreement on LAC. even if it is restricted to the Finger areas of North Pengang Tso or Kailash Ranges. Without that everything is but a farce as we have seen earlier under five BPTA agreements which miserably failed.

 

[NAMICA]

 

[DownWithCCP]

BC karwali bezzati, babu tmkc.

 

[NAMICA]

An agreement to disengage and withdraw from contested areas is not bad per se. Even after a war, there would have been an agreement to establish peace albeit at the terms of the victor. If the status quo can be achieved with an agreement. there is nothing wrong with it. Well obtaining status que as on 01Apr 20 was the stated political objective as outlined by GoI.

Agreements are not bad and even earlier agreements were weak because of lots of loopholes in those which the Chinese exploited to their gains. Only those agreement work where we have ways and means to enforce / or make the other side comply to the terms and provisions of the agreement.

So it is first for the Army and MEA to come in terms with each other to understand and agree to what should be part of the agreement, particularly in all its military implications. MEA should not be allowed to thrust roughshod on the Army which is more of a rule rather than an exception with MEA.

The agreements must have foolproof and workable verification and preventive measures that ensure the implementation of the terms and conditions. It must be an enabler rather than enforce unrealistic conditions. Patrolling, surveillance and infrastructure development work must be allowed unhindered or unobstructed.

But everything starts from and ends with the fundamental issue - an agreement on LAC. even if it is restricted to the Finger areas of North Pengang Tso or Kailash Ranges. Without that everything is but a farce as we have seen earlier under five BPTA agreements which miserably failed.

But why we should vacate those heights everyone is damn sure that china will come back and next time they will make sure we don't occupy them again ever.

 

[NAMICA]

Let this be new normal even if it comes with a right of losing patrol on our perception area.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Babu bhaiya ne udta tir gand pe leliya

 

[DownWithCCP]

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BC karwali bezzati, babu tmkc.

I thought china had "agreed" to all the conditions set by the IA and interpreted it as a win, if this article is true then nothing has changed however GT might just be putting this out for chinese domestic consumption but in reality might actually have agreed to our conditions, I hope the latter is true.

 

[HawkisRight]

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BC karwali bezzati, babu tmkc.

Who is fuckin genius to plant d story of disengagement...Looks like regular culprits

 

[HawkisRight]

I thought china had "agreed" to all the conditions set by the IA and interpreted it as a win, if this article is true then nothing has changed however GT might just be putting this out for chinese domestic consumption but in reality might actually have agreed to our conditions, I hope the latter is true.

GT is not for domestic consumption it's for our consumption

 

[NAMICA]

More confusion.

 

[HawkisRight]

More confusion.

Somebody really wants dat de-escalation

 

[DownWithCCP]

More confusion.

These people were screaming at the top of their voices about disengagement after doval-wang yi talks and that ended with Galwan valley incident happening, idk what disengagement they are talking about when the global times clearly denies that taking place albeit it could be for chinese public consumption.

 

[Haldilal]

chuchi grils gonna bomb us

Pls gib Chong pilot waifu

Ya'll Nibbiarw all of them will die just in training and routine exercise that happens when you lower the standard of training just for the propaganda.

 

[sorcerer]

The Boy Who Cried Wolf...it should be chinese who cried wolf
ermm... stoopid chinese Wolf Warriors!

 

[sorcerer]

''Russia to consider India’s request for speedy delivery of S-400 air defence systems

Russia to consider India’s request for speedy delivery of S-400 air defence systems

The two countries are also close to finalising a deal for Ka-226 multi-purpose helicopters that will ensure the highest possible amount of localisation of components in line with the Make in India and AatmaNirbhar Bharat initiatives

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Deadtrap]

My 2 Cents. Indian army should freeze the situation as it is for Pangong Lake (Both North & South). Let the Chinkoms keep F4 to F8. But let us not withdraw from Kailash Range. This arrangement will be similar to Sumdorong Chu 1986-87 Conflict where Both sides kept what they got.
Now talking abt loss of territory which is approx 50-60 sq km btw F4 to F8, India should capture disputed territory of Chumur which will give us approx 40sq km of area, exactly what Col Sanjay says. Chinese patrol should be 'denied' at this place just like they have been 'denying' us for F4 to F8. Here we have road going upto our IB.

This action at Chumur + Taking over Kailash range will be a perfect QPQ package atleast for Chinese North Pangong misadventure.
Depsang would require another remedy.