India-China 2020 Border conflict

[AZTEC]

Some news:
Garud commandos were deployed in the approach areas near LAC with Igla air defence systems to shoot down any approaching Chinese aircraft, according to the following report by ANI.

India, China agree on a three-step disengagement plan from Pangong Tso

The disengagement plan was discussed between the two sides during the 8th Corps Commander-level talks which were held on November 6 in Chushul

www.business-standard.com

This appears to be some kind of tactical A2AD operation to defend those areas which are beyond the coverage of SAM batteries.

Further reading:

Russia's Igla Wins $1.5Bln Tender For Air Defence Systems In India

Traditionally Russia is ranked among world's leading manufacturers of air defence weapons. Here is another proof of this fact. The Verba...

www.indiandefensenews.in

 

[mist_consecutive]

my question exactly

@mist_consecutive @tarunraju

I thought the news might have been missed, seems like we actually negotiated only for the Pangong area

And that is bad news.

Our positions on Rezang La/Rechin La were of much more advantage than that of what China has on F4.

Basically, we will be getting the short end of the stick, if this is true.

Think like this -> China has an advantage on F4 area, they attack, and we lose F3-F4, no big deal. It has little strategic value.
On return, we choke south Pangong Tso Moldo garrison road -> we basically suffocate the entire South Pangong area.

The tradeoff will be in India's favor.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Some news:
Garud commandos were deployed in the approach areas near LAC with Igla air defence systems to shoot down any approaching Chinese aircraft, according to the following report by ANI.

India, China agree on a three-step disengagement plan from Pangong Tso

The disengagement plan was discussed between the two sides during the 8th Corps Commander-level talks which were held on November 6 in Chushul

www.business-standard.com

This appears to be some kind of tactical A2AD operation to defend those areas which are beyond the coverage of SAM batteries.

Further reading:

Russia's Igla Wins $1.5Bln Tender For Air Defence Systems In India

Traditionally Russia is ranked among world's leading manufacturers of air defence weapons. Here is another proof of this fact. The Verba...

www.indiandefensenews.in

Who takes the bet that there will be a Galwan 2.0 during de-escalation, but on a much bigger scale? Only this time it will erupt in a full-battle

 

[HawkisRight]

Guyz here's d clear picture... Again frm Mr. Coupta so apologies in advance but good overview of situation

 

[NAMICA]

I thought the news might have been missed, seems like we actually negotiated only for the Pangong area

And that is bad news.

Our positions on Rezang La/Rechin La were of much more advantage than that of what China has on F4.

Basically, we will be getting the short end of the stick, if this is true.

Think like this -> China has an advantage on F4 area, they attack, and we lose F3-F4, no big deal. It has little strategic value.
On return, we choke south Pangong Tso Moldo garrison road -> we basically suffocate the entire South Pangong area.

The tradeoff will be in India's favor.

Babu logo ko chutiya katane ka shauk hai .

 

[Sehwag213]

Please laugh or cry

 

[sorcerer]

Please laugh or cry

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hahahaha..chinese joke of 2020

 

[DownWithCCP]

Guyz here's d clear picture... Again frm Mr. Coupta so apologies in advance but good overview of situation

Hmm that last part about biden seems promising, if he doesn't interfere in Kashmir or any other internal matters of India his presidency might not be a problem after all.

 

[HawkisRight]

Please laugh or cry

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What's wrong in it? Americans give lectures to everyone specially yindus on hooman rights so they have to accept criticism also... actually ur comment showcases d inbuilt inferiority complex in subcontinent people

 

[NAMICA]

Please laugh or cry

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This was the last thing to see in 2020.

 

[Knowitall]

Please laugh or cry

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I for one don't mind it.

Both are more than welcome to take digs at each other.

US too acts like muh we real democracy and lectures everyone else while toppling govt and creating unrest.

Both should fight with with each other and let others live in peace.

 

[SimplyIndian]

We haven't gained anything, have we? We are just sitting on our side of LAC (and China on their side). This includes heights like Rezang/Rechin La, Mukhpari, Gurung Hills etc.

And yes, if they abandon their dominant positions (on Gurung Hill, Black Top, F4 ridge) that will mean we have to too.

is gaining land everything? have not we earned an image of country which can face China and even push them back.
Have not we earned image of rising military power.
and most importanently Military will ahve much more say in Real potilik of india now.

Dont be surprise if we have 5* CDS in near future and pantagon like complex in Central Vista, modified MOD manned by majority of military. Reformed MEA.

We have gained alot. Land is not everything.

 

[Knowitall]

is gaining land everything? have not we earned an image of country which can face China and even push them back.
Have not we earned image of rising military power.
and most importanently Military will ahve much more say in Real potilik of india now.

Dont be surprise if we have 5* CDS in near future and pantagon like complex in Central Vista, modified MOD manned by majority of military. Reformed MEA.

We have gained alot. Land is not everything.

Matlab kuch bhi konsi duniya me rehta ho zara bolna?

First thing first yes maintaining the territorial integrity of your country is of utmost importance don't know why you think otherwise.

Now for your other points.

Most neutral sources around the world social and media networks have come to the same conclusion as we have here on this forum.

We have lost territory and didn't give any proper reaction for galwan. We killed thrice the number of chinese troops but it was a defensive move to save our troops not a proper counterattack and in return they got their hold on our land.

The real world doesn't function the way you think.

People look at the ground results a country's will to fight for what is truly theirs.

Strategic gains and losses are looked at not "marte marte mare".

If we cannot get our own land back what face will we show to those soldiers who lost their life for this country that day.

Their deaths would be in vain.

 

[NAMICA]

Matlab kuch bhi konsi duniya me rehta ho zara bolna?

First thing first yes maintaining the territorial integrity of your country is of utmost importance don't know why you think otherwise.

Now for your other points.

Most neutral sources around the world social and media networks have come to the same conclusion as we have here on this forum.

We have lost territory and didn't give any proper reaction for galwan. We killed thrice the number of chinese troops but it was a defensive move to save our troops not a proper counterattack and in return they got their hold on our land.

The real world doesn't function the way you think.

People look at the ground results a country's will to fight for what is truly theirs.

We were saved due to reporting by western media on our favour.

 

[mist_consecutive]

is gaining land everything? have not we earned an image of country which can face China and even push them back.
Have not we earned image of rising military power.
and most importanently Military will ahve much more say in Real potilik of india now.

Dont be surprise if we have 5* CDS in near future and pantagon like complex in Central Vista, modified MOD manned by majority of military. Reformed MEA.

We have gained alot. Land is not everything.

have not we earned an image of country which can face China and even push them back.

Somehow, these days defending ourselves is being taken as a big achievement.

Is China some superman alien predator, against which defending enough is to be taken as an achievement?

and most importanently Military will ahve much more say in Real potilik of india now.

Never gonna happen. The military remains under the thumbs of politicians and babus.

We have gained alot. Land is not everything.

Yes, the reputation of being naive enough to believe China and get backstabbed. Getting our soldiers as well as colonel killed in a perfectly planned ambush and yet not retaliating against their mischief.

(Spare me the lecture on who killed how many, we just defended ourselves against Chinese in Galwan, that does not equate to revenge or getting equal)

 

[NAMICA]

Somehow, these days defending ourselves is being taken as a big achievement.

Is China some superman alien predator, against which defending enough is to be taken as an achievement?


Never gonna happen. The military remains under the thumbs of politicians and babus.


Yes, the reputation of being naive enough to believe China and get backstabbed. Getting our soldiers as well as colonel killed in a perfectly planned ambush and yet not retaliating against their mischief.

(Spare me the lecture on who killed how many, we just defended ourselves against Chinese in Galwan, that does not equate to revenge or getting equal)

Well revenge was taken on that day by other units.

 

[shade]

Somehow, these days defending ourselves is being taken as a big achievement.
Is China some superman alien predator, against which defending enough is to be taken as an achievement?

Yes, the reputation of being naive enough to believe China and get backstabbed. Getting our soldiers as well as colonel killed in a perfectly planned ambush and yet not retaliating against their mischief.

Khauf -e- "Escalation" prevented action back then and is preventing action now, and probably will in the future.
Thing is chings are emboldened now, since we didn't hit back, they think we are weak, and will continue this g*ndmasti more frequently, eventually PMO will have to give orders to retaliate, brushing away all the trumped up 10 foot china boogeyman projected by the babus involved.

I think Chongs will try something much more bigger and worse than Galwan in 2023 end/ early 2024 expecting the same head-in-sand response like of this year, but they will get something exactly the opposite like the Pakis got after Pulwama.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Well revenge was taken on that day by other units.

Is there an exact figure of how many pla soldiers were killed. Cause some said 43, some said 35, some went into 100s?

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

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Is this practically possible?