India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Ya'll Nibbiars Beware of handles suddenly appearing like cockroaches, they have Hindu god goddess DPs, some shloka in Bio, they act as if only they’re the thekedaars of religion. The have a propaganda to abuse Modi, his supporters. They generally have few hundreds followers & are highly abusive many are made by the Pakis and the Mlecchas. And most of them have spouted after the Standoffs.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars Beware of handles suddenly appearing like cockroaches, they have Hindu god goddess DPs, some shloka in Bio, they act as if only they’re the thekedaars of religion. The have a propaganda to abuse Modi, his supporters. They generally have few hundreds followers & are highly abusive many are made by the Pakis and the Mlecchas. And most of them have spouted after the Standoffs.
I have seen these on TOI comments section, om, swastik, hindu gods, tirange etc as dp, and everything is anti modi, like our schiftfahrts fahrting in every thread.
 

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Why should Russia support us? We are a nation of 1.4 focking Billion. If we can't stand by ourselves then we deserve to loose. China making an enemy out of US is of their own making and US corporations greed of profits. If XI hadn't come in they would have been on even friendlier terms than they are now. If they sign a trade deal, in 5 years all this hostility would be forgotten. Though I doubt US armed forces would love to use China to milk Congress.

Indians naturally immigrated to the US and the west and our diaspora has worked hard over 3 decades to bring India closer to the west. What diaspora we have in Russia? Russians didn't encourage immigration too. What are big Russian corporations? I repeat again. India getting closer to US is to leverage her economic potential with the US. Russia offered us nothing on the economic side. Even now secret Black projects are going on with Russian help. And that is cos Putin is clever. He needs an India to offset an China which can threaten Russia in the future.

Every defence project had issues. Scorpene was delayed by 7-8 years. Where was your anger then? Dassault after agreeing to RFP refused to take care of Quality Control of HAL after they were declared L1. Ideally they should have blacklisted. Even now it's Russia and Israel who had worked overtime to send us their spares. It was reported some Russian system were also deployed in LAC which they sent after the standoff began.

But the relationship will change. In 10 years they will start supplying Pakistan. India can't do anything except to guard itself with her own developed products. India US relationship is not friendship. It's an transactional relationship. Only Bhutan is our friend. This time US will make sure they do not make the mistake they make with China 30 years back so they will make sure we are not prosperous but not too poor too. They won't definitely love an powerful India. They will also cybersnoop almost everything. They did it even when we didn't use their equipments 😂 Now it's very easy. We have to be wary of US too.

there are many kinds of support like financial, military, political, moral etc. and yes, every country needs political and moral support at the time of conflict.

Russia has given this, they have given that, but for what? it was strategic partnership and we also paid well.

China is making an enemy out of US or vice versa, that's a different point. my point is now China and US are enemies and China has replaced Russia as the prime target of US. at the same time we are having a conflict with China. now if it escalates US might get involved and then Russia will definitely support China.

I don't think any kind of trade deal will suffice 228k death due to Wuhan virus.

there may be issues in any military deal. but extortion is unwarranted.

present geopolitical situation is demanding a closer US India partnership. but that doesn't mean we will sever our relationship with Russia. but if they support China? Putin is already hinting a military cooperation with China. now they ball is in our court.

on one hand you are saying China is making an enemy out of US, on the other hand you are saying US won't make same mistake, it'd be proper if you emphasized on "we won't make same mistake like China". then we will be good. and just for reference, I don't think we are suffering from Middle Kingdom syndrome.

last but not the least, as you said and clarified, Russia hasn't done anything out of friendship. it was due to some give and take policies. that may not be the case in the near future and we'd concentrate on what will be beneficial for our country.
 

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I don't think any kind of trade deal will suffice 228k death due to Wuhan virus.
The people who run America don't give a bat's diseased arse about how many plebs died or were affected due to Qing Qong virus.
What you see now is only because Trump, and even Trump is being rebuffed because of 11 Pingpong and his CCP's inflated egos.
Trump is transactional, and the day they hypothetically sign a trade deal and honor it, he stopes slow boiling their yellow asses.
Biden-Coomala and their party are corporate shills, and you will see a rapid climbdown sanctions and trade war wise on China in the 4 years they are in power.
US and Russia are only crutches now till we get our MIC and infrastructure in order, they aren't a permanent "fix".
 

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The people who run America don't give a bat's diseased arse about how many plebs died or were affected due to Qing Qong virus.
What you see now is only because Trump, and even Trump is being rebuffed because of 11 Pingpong and his CCP's inflated egos.
Trump is transactional, and the day they hypothetically sign a trade deal and honor it, he stopes slow boiling their yellow asses.
Biden-Coomala and their party are corporate shills, and you will see a rapid climbdown sanctions and trade war wise on China in the 4 years they are in power.
US and Russia are only crutches now till we get our MIC and infrastructure in order, they aren't a permanent "fix".
you are forgetting one thing, US is a democratic country. and businessmen will never go against public sentiment.
any kind of conciliatory approach towards China will result in Congressinalization (please pardon for the term. relate to India) of the parties involved.
 

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you are forgetting one thing, US is a democratic country. and businessmen will never go against public sentiment.
any kind of conciliatory approach towards China will result in Congressinalization (please pardon for the term. relate to India) of the parties involved.
Public sentiment can be managed, and is being managed, in a year the plebeans will forget about the ching chong virus and go back to consooming chinese items.
Here itself Xiaomeme and other chink brand items made record sales this festive season, and chinks killed our 20 troops, made us sick, killed us with sickness, and indirectly destroyed the economy.
 

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Public sentiment can be managed, and is being managed, in a year the plebeans will forget about the ching chong virus and go back to consooming chinese items.
Here itself Xiaomeme and other chink brand items made record sales this festive season, and chinks killed our 20 troops, made us sick, killed us with sickness, and indirectly destroyed the economy.

but in US many people lost their dear ones and many more were/are seriously ill.
and I'm not sure if Americans will also fall for cheap Chinese products like us.
 

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World Bank sanctions Chinese engineering firms in Zambian power project
WASHINGTON: The World Bank said on Wednesday it has sanctioned a state Chinese state electric engineering group and its subsidiary over fraudulent practices in a power project in Zambia, setting out new conditions for them to participate in bank-financed projects.
 

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The all knowing Bharat karnad at it again..

https://idrw.org/us-could-use-beca-...-missiles-for-vested-interests-ex-nsa-member/

The best part ( seems he is not aware of IRNSS and GAGAN ):
Sputnik: What should India do to avoid such problems? Karnad: India needs to be self-reliant in armaments and strategic support systems at any cost, including accelerating the pace of launching and operationalising an Indian constellation of satellites to provide the Indian military domestically made blink-proof GPS and targeting wherewithal not prey to the interests of any outside power.
 

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I don't understand why there is even a conversation about ungratefulness or friends.

Learn from America.
The Thirteen colonies attacked France in 1756 and Britain went in debt saving them. Then they allied with France to gain independence. Then they attacked France to trade with Britain and then again attacked Britain to try to take Canada. Then they conquered half of Mexico.

Now France, Britain, and Mexico are good friends/vassals of America.

Moral of the story: There are no friends and if someone helped you yesterday, backstab them tomorrow. The only things that matter are power, mutual interests, common enemy, and quid pro quo.
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There are no permanent friend, there are no permanent enemy, only permanent mutual interest.
 

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is this true?
People should learn to use what rests inside their cranium, article by vijaita singh the bitch goes on to claim that indian soldier are living in bad conditions in shitty tents all based on the words of some "ex-BJP" member. I mean this is outright Global times level diarrhea ,mods please take note and delete the post.
Remember those "citizens"(pssstt... congress workers) from ladakh that played the same tune a few months ago?
It's a shame that we even entertain propaganda and let people like this go scot free.
@tarunraju @ezsasa
 

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