India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Hellfire]

i wonder how George Bush would have reacted to China right now. Would have spanked them "red". Wish we had someone like that in the US right now.

Why not for once fight our own battles?

 

[nick_indian]

Why not for once fight our own battles?

Unfortunately we don't have the right leaders either. They were wishing China happy birthday yesterday.

 

[nick_indian]

Ya picking on stone age countries like Afghanistan and Iraq is same as extrapolating it to China. His balls got frozen in Georgia when Russia made a roast out of the tie chewing Saakash. By the most attackers came from Pakistan and Saudis not afghanis

Invading a country and taking over it is a huge task that too far away from homeland. Bush did that with two countries at the same time, it's no easy task, stone age or any age.

Nobody is saying that Bush would have invaded China, but he would have been tougher with China than Trump, imo. Anyway, it doesn't matter now. Btw, the Georgian invasion by Russia happened literally 2 months before his term ended. That makes a lot of difference.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Invading a country and taking over it is a huge task that too far away from homeland. Bush did that with two countries at the same time, it's no easy task, stone age or any age.

Nobody is saying that Bush would have invaded China, but he would have been tougher with China than Trump, imo. Anyway, it doesn't matter now. Btw, the Georgian invasion by Russia happened literally 2 months before his term ended. That makes a lot of difference.

It is not very convincing and he needed a reason to get to Oil , so simply his invasions are profit wars and did not yield any benefit to US and they are ultimately running out the field. It would have been better to leave Saddam alone to keep Iran in check. Georgia would not have done shit without getting approval from its masters. Him and Clinton let China gain power and Bush being the main overseeing investments in China basically doling our US manufacturing riches in garage sale

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Comeon a military attack on China, wont happen out of the blue.. The US would take some action w.r.t taiwan warranting a chinese reaction, and use it to start its campaign.. It will be a long war, with the US first yanking all critical dependencies kn the chinese supply chain, then, choking all chinese military and commercial movement in and out of the first island chain.. and the slowly closing the trap further..

US will focus on destroying china economically. Taking china out of international banking system is '
a good strategy.

 

[nick_indian]

It is not very convincing and he needed a reason to get to Oil , so simply his invasions are profit wars and did not yield any benefit to US and they are ultimately running out the field. It would have been better to leave Saddam alone to keep Iran in check. Georgia would not have done shit without getting approval from its masters. Him and Clinton let China gain power and Bush being the main overseeing investments in China basically doling our US manufacturing riches in garage sale

If China had acted this way during Bush times, he would acted very differently towards them. Nobody knew China would begin acting like this once they got richer. Back then they mostly behaved themselves. Of course we can only speculate now. Let's see now what Trump does. He will most probably have another term to stop China in its tracks.

 

[omaebakabaka]

If China had acted this way during Bush times, he would acted very differently towards them. Nobody knew China would begin acting like this once they got richer. Back then they mostly behaved themselves. Of course we can only speculate now. Let's see now what Trump does. He will most probably have another term to stop China in its tracks.

That is comical, any politician should be able to predict something this simple. Can one expect a snake to not bite just because you gave it a mice? Any way OT probably...I will leave it at this.

 

[omaebakabaka]

US will focus on destroying china economically. Taking china out of international banking system is '
a good strategy.

It may be a bit too late but its now or never. China can still be tamed and depending on how India stands in this flare up over next few months, CCP invincibility bubble and bluff will be popped and called.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It may be a bit too late but its now or never. China can still be tamed and depending on how India stands in this flare up over next few months, CCP invincibility bubble and bluff will be popped and called.

I am disappointed with Indian govt wanted more aggressive moves but maybe that is not in our nature??

 

[utubekhiladi]

where is my post titled "THE SAD STATE OF OUR ORDIANCE FACTORY BOARD (OFB)"

did it got moved? if yes, then to which thread?

 

[shade]

I am disappointed with Indian govt wanted more aggressive moves but maybe that is not in our nature??

Stop with this Ghadiwadi meme term "not in our nature, we are peacefool".
It's rather the GoI has been convinced that we will not be able to win a war with Chinkies in our current state, so better not "escalate" things by uPsEtTiNG CHiNa.
This is just kicking the can down the road btw( assuming no more re-adjustments take place )

 

[omaebakabaka]

I am disappointed with Indian govt wanted more aggressive moves but maybe that is not in our nature??

Well its a multi-dimensional chess for a politician like NM and AS, we need bit more time to increase probability to prevail in a hard war. It has to be a win on economic front too, otherwise its back to congress era. I think they will keep the stalemate and keep the POK on edge waiting for an opportunity to open up. That is my wishful thinking ofcourse

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Stop with this Ghadiwadi meme term "not in our nature, we are peacefool".
It's rather the GoI has been convinced that we will not be able to win a war with Chinkies in our current state, so better not "escalate" things by uPsEtTiNG CHiNa.
This is just kicking the can down the road btw( assuming no more re-adjustments take place )

I don't subscribe to gandhi philosophy in any manner. Any other nation would have slaughtered
invaders not have meetings that go on for 15 hours and achieve nothing. We have not displayed
anything that would cause fear in the enemy after Galwan. Not behaving like a true nuclear power.

 

[ezsasa]

I am disappointed with Indian govt wanted more aggressive moves but maybe that is not in our nature??

Maybe that's the symptom of being a victim of 5th Gen warfare, by more than two adversaries.

 

[nick_indian]

That is comical, any politician should be able to predict something this simple. Can one expect a snake to not bite just because you gave it a mice? Any way OT probably...I will leave it at this.

I believe the policy back then was different. American strategists generally felt that by getting richer and more plugged into the global economy, china will become softer and more democratic in its ways. Assessment was wrong in hindsight. But I don't think they saw this coming. Anyway, i will leave it at this too.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Maybe that's the symptom of being a victim of 5th Gen warfare, by more than two adversaries.

we have been making bold statements for years that we are prepared for a two front war.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I believe the policy back then was different. American strategists generally felt that by getting richer and more plugged into the global economy, china will become softer and more democratic in its ways. Assessment was wrong in hindsight. But I don't think they saw this coming. Anyway, i will leave it at this too.

Nixon and Kissinger have cursed the world by opening up china a failed policy that
may bring down the west.

 

[omaebakabaka]

we have been making bold statements for years that we are prepared for a two front war.

I think we would with current political leadership if our MIC was atleast 30 to 40% domestic.

 

[shade]

I don't subscribe to gandhi philosophy in any manner. Any other nation would have slaughtered
invaders not have meetings that go on for 15 hours and achieve nothing. We have not displayed
anything that would cause fear in the enemy after Galwan.

Not vs this specific country in the times of this chinese virus pandemic, no.
Compared to all the cuck countries surrounding China, we have actually done a ballsy thing by building up at LoC and consolidating our peaks and hill tops, compared to the usual reaction of doing nothing when China grabs your land of Congress rule, and what other small countries bordering China do.

Of the most worst effects loss at war will have is on Modi/Shah, they will lose power and their dreams of turning Bharat towards a more Sangh-compliant character rather than the current Ghandiwadi/Fabian Socialist/Secular/Appeasement one.

They will only authorize strong action when they feel we are ready/ China attacks and forces their hand.

For the "Dynamic Duo" prioritize taking care of domestic matters first, after all how can you take on a strong enemy when you're own house isn't in order, filled with pests?

 

[ezsasa]

we have been making bold statements for years that we are prepared for a two front war.

There is also a caveat attached to this, "If war is imposed on us".
Our adversaries have also been smart enough to keep things below the threshold level.