India-China 2020 Border conflict

[etantra]

People defending the MEA need to realize: Who was it that continued to insist on unarmed patrolling by Indian soldiers even after Chinese soldiers started attacking them with clubs with nails and barbed wire? These encounters started in 2019.
Who kept on insisting that Indian Army should not start fire-fights even as the Chinese were occupying more and more Indian territory and creating well-defended positions there?
This entire crisis of more Indian territory being occupied by Chinese Army is a result of Indian soldiers not being allowed to use guns to kill Chinese soldiers, and being forced to follow an agreement which the Chinese used to their advantage to take over land without losing a single soldier.

when did that happen in 2019.. got source?

 

[etantra]

‘Doomsday planes’ mobilise in Washington

America’s doomsday planes are in the air following news that the nation’s commander-in-chief, President Donald Trump, has COVID-19.

www.news.com.au

About 16 of the aircraft were delivered from 1986. The fleet underwent a major upgrade in 2006.

Their job is to get into the air in the time of crisis. But an unknown number is also maintained aloft at any one time.

In the event of war, their job is to relay commands from the president and defense secretary directly to the deterrent nuclear force. The heart of this force are the Ohio-class nuclear ballistic-missile submarines hiding deep in the world’s oceans. Their immense payloads of nuclear missiles constantly threaten the prospect of a devastating retaliatory blow.

...

“It’s the plane that has the ability to order the killing of everyone on earth if someone attacks the US with nukes in a first strike. It can talk to our missile subs under water even if DC is gone.”

Talking to submarines deep underwater is no easy task.

Very Low Frequency (VLF) radio can reach about 20m beneath the ocean’s surface. But its transmission speed is very slow and require large, high powered emitters for broadcast. In order to operate this equipment, the E-6B must unspool a kilometres-long wire to act as an aerial.

*****

That is the sort of capability Indian defence force needs to get to.

I hear the guys who press the actual button to trigger retaliation in some sites are chained to their stations( no toilet breaks) and do 4 hour shifts.. They also get random dummy instructions to press the trigger to test if they do( to catch out conscience objectors). So when a real instruction comes they don't think and question it.

 

[Cheran]

 

[Cheran]

 

[tarunraju]

China should be very afraid about Trump making it through COVID-19 alive. Imagine someone as vindictive as Trump getting a clean bill of health and going back to the Oval Office even 1 day before elections, having just experienced the horrors of the disease first-hand. He will declare a national emergency, postpone the elections, and wage hot war against China.

 

[ezsasa]

This should be interesting, Cleo Paskal & Tanvi Madan on Strat news global.
Surprised that Tanvi hasn't tweeted any snarky remarks on how come a man is moderating two female experts.

 

[FalconZero]

China should be very afraid about Trump making it through COVID-19 alive. Imagine someone as vindictive as Trump getting a clean bill of health and going back to the Oval Office even 1 day before elections, having just experienced the horrors of the disease first-hand. He will declare a national emergency, postpone the elections, and wage hot war against China.

Go through the comments under his tweet, lefticles are delighted, some dummies are calling him racist for calling it "China - virus"

 

[tarunraju]

Go through the comments under his tweet, lefticles are delighted, some dummies are calling him racist for calling it "China - virus"

Good. The Trump administration is formally, officially, and legally convinced that China is responsible and accountable for COVID-19. If Trump steps into the Oval Office before elections with a clean bill of health, he will attack China.

 

[nick_indian]

In the India-China disputed border under whose control is the Demchok area is Ladakh ? Different sources say different things. Some say controlled by China, claimed by India, some say controlled by India, claimed by China. Or is it more complicated than that ?

 

[doreamon]

That ll be declaration of war .. And we shd be prepared fr it in this decade .

China Plans to ‘Turn Xinjiang Into California’ by Diverting Indian Rivers, Experts Say – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[johnq]

when did that happen in 2019.. got source?

Chinese Army Augmenting Its Position; Digging Tunnels, Denying Indian Troops Movement Near Disputed Region Of Ladakh

by Swarajya Staff - Dec 25, 2019 11:28 PM

China has upped the ante against India's security establishment by massively enhancing its military infrastructure in the bordering areas in Ladakh that have witnessed skirmishes between the forces of the two countries.

China's People's Liberation Army has started carrying out military infrastructure development work near the Pangong lake in Ladakh region, a Defence Ministry source said on Thursday (26 December).

The PLA has set up tents and has constructed underground tunnels and are constructing more tunnels at the disputed Finger 8 mountain spur near Pangong Tso region, a source said.

"It has been further found that Chinese Army has augmented deployment and patrolling the area. They are now denying movement of Indian Army forces in the vicinity of the area," said a source.

Till now, there was no military infrastructure work carried out in the disputed area that the PLA used to come during patrolling in the region. But with setting up of tents, the Chinese army has stationed itself in the region which has become a matter of concern for the Indian security establishment.

There have been regular face-offs between the two armies on the northern bank of the 134-km-long Pangong lake, two-thirds of which is controlled by China as it extends from Tibet to Ladakh.

The incidents of clashes between both forces have been occurring due to deferring perceptions about the Line of Actual Control (LAC) between India and China.

The Indian Army said whenever such incidents happen delegation-level talks led by brigadier-rank officers take place as per the established bilateral mechanism to defuse tensions.

In mid-September this year, Indian and Chinese troops were involved in a heated exchange in eastern part near the Pangong lake after PLA personnel objected to patrolling by Indian soldiers in the area.

The disputed Finger-5 to Finger-8 (mountainous spurs) area on the north bank of Pangong Tso, incidentally, had witnessed a violent clash between Indian and Chinese soldiers, with stones and iron rods being used to injure each other, on 15 August, 2017.

 

[nick_indian]

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-chinas-founding-day/articleshow/78427445.cms

S Jaishankar greets Chinese people, government on occasion of China's founding day

Is this for real ?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

THese dirty commies will pay for destroying the world. When trump recovers and comes back to office he should wipe them off the face off the earth.

 

[nick_indian]

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-chinas-founding-day/articleshow/78427445.cms

S Jaishankar greets Chinese people, government on occasion of China's founding day

Is this for real ?

This is disgusting.

Are we really such a weak country as these people project us to be ?

 

[FalconZero]

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-chinas-founding-day/articleshow/78427445.cms

S Jaishankar greets Chinese people, government on occasion of China's founding day

Is this for real ?

Yeah, I was there when it was written, just read the previous comments on the thread, many people didn't like it but some senior members made few good points so I guess we should just ignore it and focus on the reality on the ground which altogether different story. Personally, i hate it.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-chinas-founding-day/articleshow/78427445.cms

S Jaishankar greets Chinese people, government on occasion of China's founding day

Is this for real ?

what a stupid thing to do against an enemy that wants to destroy you? How can any country take India as a serious ally?

 

[DownWithCCP]

what a stupid thing to doagainst an enemy that wants to destroy you

Did we not discuss it yesterday??

 

[Cheran]

 

[Akiyama Hana]

China should be very afraid about Trump making it through COVID-19 alive. Imagine someone as vindictive as Trump getting a clean bill of health and going back to the Oval Office even 1 day before elections, having just experienced the horrors of the disease first-hand. He will declare a national emergency, postpone the elections, and wage hot war against China.

Actually Trump gets a nickname "川建国 Chuan Jianguo" in China, indicating Chinese people think Trump being in office favors China because he is very shortsighted and crippling American long term hegemony.

Opinion | China’s Man in Washington, Named Trump (Published 2020)

Our president is bolstering a nation, but it’s not the United States.

www.nytimes.com

 

[tarunraju]