India-China 2020 Border conflict

[LDev]

Germany is waiting for chips to fall on either side so they can jump lmao

The economic health of the German export sector is all that matters to the Germans. Exports and operations of Mercedes Benz, BMW, VW Group and other German companies to and in China are their priority. The only thing that will override that priority is if a German citizen is held captive in China. In that case there will be a 180 degree turnaround on Germany's policy towards Chinaj.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Not rocket science

I disagree but its low level mechanics to extend discssion on the thread. I would see encryption, communication protocols and so on that are valuable.

 

[BabaKhalbali]

Ahead of Jaishankar-Wang Yi talks, a rare Xinhua commentary on border situation (which has so far been largely left to less important Global Times edits) says "India's move to first fire shots... is a serious military provocation of an egregious nature"

Commentary: India must stop endangering stability in border with China - Xinhua | English.news.cn

 

[LDev]

Jaishankar spent a lot of time in Beijing Embassy. He knows Chinese.

Jaishankar is a Russian language specialist and speaks Russian fluently. He does not speak Mandarin.

 

[shade]

Ahead of Jaishankar-Wang Yi talks, a rare Xinhua commentary on border situation (which has so far been largely left to less important Global Times edits) says "India's move to first fire shots... is a serious military provocation of an egregious nature"

Commentary: India must stop endangering stability in border with China - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Yes, us incompetent Yindos should have just vacated our land to our Dynasty Warriors overlords, isn't that right?

Pic related, this is what cheeni jawans think they are

All jhumlebaazi from Xinhua and GT is only meant for domestic and diaspora chinks, and the porkers

 

[omaebakabaka]

Jaishankar is a Russian language specialist and speaks Russian fluently. He does not speak Mandarin.

His wife is Japanese and for anyone that knows Japanese (he claims conversational level japanese not fluency), Chinese is not that difficult to read or learn especially if you are already multi-lingual and its easier vs Japanese.

 

[Akula]

haha good ... if u dont rememberer Australia was a literal pan shop for chinis few years back and australian leaders were pretty happy with arrangement then chinis showed the true colors.

On the other hand leave alone racists australian civis even australian navy was no different they used to troll Indian Navy...
while porki bandar straightaway tries to ram the ships australian navy used to spook Indian Ships regularly pretty sure Indian Navy is still upset for those times...

Reason for not including Australian Navy in Malabar exercise?

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

As we don't have any formal military alliance with any country so support of their armed forces in a war against china is unlikely.

Will they let us purchase hardware from their military if we pay for it??

 

[omaebakabaka]

one question though, all these agreements looks good now and promising.
but what's the guarantee that it will honored by other countries during crisis. what if a particular country goes back on the agreement due to some intense chinese lobbying or for whatever reasons?

There isn't and history is full of breaking agreements.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Reason for not including Australian Navy in Malabar exercise?

Yes, Australian men are one of the worst rascist and dumb pigs. I have had good experiences with their women though .....speaking as a 100% heterosexual only.

 

[LDev]

How do we know that this is *not* the case as latest inputs can be had from IA before the meet?

I presume that the General is going by historical precedent in the way GOI and MEA have operated i.e. giving away battlefield gains at the negotiating table without understanding the tactical situation on the ground. It is possible that things are very different this time around. It is also possible that both Jaishankar and Wang Yi will only listen to each other and that there will be no commitments made by either side at that meeting. I would take the General's comments as being motivated by his own experience.

 

[omaebakabaka]

I presume that the General is going by historical precedent in the way GOI and MEA have operated i.e. giving away battlefield gains at the negotiating table without understanding the tactical situation on the ground. It is possible that things are very different this time around. It is also possible that both Jaishankar and Wang Yi will only listen to each other and that there will be no commitments made by either side at that meeting. I would take the General's comments as being motivated by his own experience.

It does not quite work that way....they usually write an understanding and then some level of ratification aka fine print.

 

[shade]

His wife is Japanese and for anyone that knows Japanese (he claims conversational level japanese not fluency), Chinese is not that difficult to read or learn especially if you are already multi-lingual and its easier vs Japanese.

Chingchong is a different language family altogether, Japanese has 3 types of lettering, out of that only one called kanji is 1:1 same as Mandarin.

Btw Northern chongs can't understand Southern chongs, so all their films/tv shows have subtitles in Chinese characters, since the characters mean the same "thing" even though the pronunciations are so different in North v South that they seem like different languages

Will they let us purchase hardware from their military if we pay for it??

Sab humko ragdaenge lol during a war for hardware purchases.
US will try to force some un-agreeable conditions to purchase all the while trying to do DEAL with the Kutta-khors for concessions for US goods imported to China
Rooski will try to price gouge and yet delay deliveries to appease cheeni
EU homos will do hooman rights drama and refuse to arm either.

India has only guarantee of it's own industry backing it in these conditions

Bhagwan Ucha
Desh Ucha.

Phorens are only fair weather "friends" and arms suppliers.
When you are in need, milking and arm twisting bs will start.
There is a reason even US vassals like Korea, Japan and earlier Turkey atleast made some of their equipment on their own.

 

[tarunraju]

Urgently,

Members need a help.

In below video capt Amrinder Singh is pointing towards a Chinese journalist book. About 5 wars Chinese are going to fight 1st is Taiwan and 2nd on list is India.. and it includes Russia.

Dnt bash me for posting IE and captain. Please be objective.

KINDLY if anyone knows can point out the book.

It's not a book, it's an essay by some ex-PLA star officer that was syndicated by several chinese newspapers, including SCMP, talking about the Six wars China needs to fight before 2050.

Read it here: http://www.indiandefencereview.com/news/six-wars-china-is-sure-to-fight-in-the-next-50-years/

 

[omaebakabaka]

Me away from coimbatore by 100km. Two aircraft from cbe return to same direction. Unusual movement.

What do you mean, civilian?

 

[Shaitan]

 

[Bhadra]

Guys I have read it 5 times. I am unable to comprehend what the respected general just said. Would need some help with this one.

He is saying they are not even sparing IAS and Foreign Service people to come to NDC to be DS (the teachers as they are called directing staff ).

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Yes, Australian men are one of the worst rascist and dumb pigs. I have had good experiences with their women though .....speaking as a 100% heterosexual only.

I want Them to be threatened by China they overestimate themselves even when they have achieved nothing substantial in research and development

 

[shaktishivashakti]

Well, odds are better for Russia atm as west started the implosion process for a few years now. Most western powers feel like 4th world if you look at their news papers and where their priorities are. We just need to evolve on our own strength economy and military and take advantage of relations according to that.

With my limited understanding and knowledge : Trump, Putin and Modi are the ennemies of globalists, this triumvirat is a nightmare for the globalists.
In the opinion of the globalist, Modi is the weakest, Trump the most dangerous and Putin the strongest. They know that Kremlin is unshakable till the departure of Putin so they dont poke him. Putin knows that he cant wage a war against the BLM/LGBTX/Gretashit etc... and a war against the Hans, but he does know that India is a strong card for the future and not a threat.
They tried and still try to shake the Trump tower but it's solid. Evrything will change if sleepy Jo is elected (but no chance IMO).
Having lost the battle against Trump they decided to hit Modi, the weakest, but alas he may be the weakest but he decided to hit back bcz he knows what is really at stake. It's not only a real estate dispute (like Jaishankar says sometimes in a lighter tone) located in Ladhak and elsewhere. It's all about the future place of India in the world stage : diplomatically, economically and militarily. It was necessary to hit at Modi now because if Trump reelected China's future is doomed and India is one of the few suitable candidate to play a major role in a more human common people friendly globalization (unavoidable for a very very long time). See one of my first posts on DFI on the subject of the globlalized world, the fall of Berlin wall and Iron curtain and the necessity to shake the Great Chinese wall if one still want in a globalized world but more common people friendly.
Few thoughts of mine on the subject sorrry. Yes you are right, Russia is better atm and YES we need to evolve our own strength on every field. But we need to be patient. Never ever humilate an adversary. Kill him if you have no choice but dont humiliate him unnecessarily. That was the tone of my twos posts todays but not correctly understood. It doesnt matter !

 

[omaebakabaka]

Thanks for posting but please summarize the gist if possible especially if its a long video. Too many posts and video. Just a request....