India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Why is it that some of these locals in India so toothless whether it is Kashmiri pandits or Ladakhis or North Easterners, is it due to GOI under congress didn't give a crap? Why can't the locals step up like muzzies, it is after all their ancestors land? Somewhere there has to be red line for any person, maa, behan, dharti, gaon, desh and so on....must mean something? Isn't it normal reaction for locals to get revenge? If so why can't Indian GOI turn a blind eye and pump them with small arms to harass these bastards?
Locals( KP, Ladakhi ) lack the numbers and get no support from Govt, Kashmiri Muzz has support from bhaijaan's in Rawalpindi and from Arab abbujaan's also.
Guarding the borders is GoI's responsibility tbh. 5 tibetan Yak herders can't do much vs numberless Han drones.


Most North Easter tribals are hostile to GoI anyway, they don't count.

Ya'll Nibbiars Chinese side should sincerely work with the Indian side for complete disengagement at the earliest from all friction areas including Pangong as well as de-escalation in border areas & not make further attempts to unilaterally change status quo: MEA.
Chad :
"Onus is on India to de-escalate and disengage"
"China is ready for peace and for war"
"Not an Inch of Chinese territory will be surrendered"

MEAvirgin:
"Sir, i humbly request you to please leave border areas and not unilaterally change the status quo"
 

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TRS and YSR CONG are all available for a deal..
TRS is asking unreal things from center. Basically they want Army to completely vacate its vast cantonment in Secunderabad (which is larger in area than Delhi Cantt), so KCR can sell it to his real-estate cronies.

He's also asking that BJP halt its expansion plans in Telangana (BJP is already fast becoming a formidable opposition to TRS, KCR got the shock of his life in the '19 LS polls).

YSRC is already getting pretty much all that it's asking.
 

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TRS is asking unreal things from center. Basically they want Army to completely vacate its vast cantonment in Secunderabad (which is larger in area than Delhi Cantt), so KCR can sell it to his real-estate cronies.

He's also asking that BJP halt its expansion plans in Telangana (BJP is already fast becoming a formidable opposition to TRS, KCR got the shock of his life in the '19 LS polls).

YSRC is already getting pretty much all that it's asking.
TRS can go and pound sand, I actually got trained at Golconda cantt by a jawan when my cousin was in force and posted there for NDA SSB physical and that was huge cantt too....don't they both cater to minority? One of my best friend from Hyd tells me that TRS is muzzie friendly and YSR is basically converting hindus at a massive scale in coastal andhra and its just mind blowing how fast they are doing it.....
 

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OT but think this move is to protect CPEC and have hold on the areas India claiming GB and PoK. Also skardu airport expansion is to accommodate PLAAF fearing Indian advancement...
I don't know if IK and Modi did an hard time deal to convert loc to permanent borders and it's a step in that direction.
 

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Preempt what? You preempt an enemy or adversary action... ?? there was nothing happening from India side to preemt ??

Aksaichin is secure and fine. There was no threat to it. Secure it from what ??
Salami slicing without a fight- they have done that before hundreds of times.
That does not call for bringing in two divisions and incurring so much expenditure. That they could have done by border Regiments and our MEA would have issued a demarche. That is all.
preempt India having funny ideas when sh1t gets real in SCS.

watch any chinese forum, they are all expecting SCS to get hot, that is their main concern. Even here, they messed up their plans as it has lead to India troops being locked and loaded, so if sh1t gets real in SCS, they are stuffed for sure now.

Earlier there was a chance India would play NAM and stay out. Maybe they truly underestimated this govt ans thought no one will get a whiff and India will not even know enough or care, forget about being pushed back.
 

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Why is it that some of these locals in India so toothless whether it is Kashmiri pandits or Ladakhis or North Easterners, is it due to GOI under congress didn't give a crap? Why can't the locals step up like muzzies, it is after all their ancestors land? Somewhere there has to be red line for any person, maa, behan, dharti, gaon, desh and so on....must mean something? Isn't it normal reaction for locals to get revenge? If so why can't Indian GOI turn a blind eye and pump them with small arms to harass these bastards?
Lol how could a small number of Kashmiri Pandits would've saved themselves from Armed & hostile mobs? We are seeing these things in UP sometimes where Hindus are in majority & you are talking about a freakin muslim majority state.
Ladakh scouts is a armed regiment in IA what more do you desire? They are defending their motherland.
 

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there I've used Afg as a hypothesis.

ott :
imo, US shouldn't have walked out of the deal with Iran. it's a blunder.
I'm not sure if we will be able to maintain our relationship with Iran or not.

two alliances are forming. and our theory of counterweighting China with Russian friendship has failed miserably (every time).
but still we are busy with multipolar-bipolar saga. anyways...
exactly the point being made here by MD Nalapat

The allegation is that India is the one dragging foot on QUAD and if it India wants things can speed up quick ( assuming the orange man can atleast behave like an ethical hooker and keep his word)
 

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I don't know if IK and Modi did an hard time deal to convert loc to permanent borders and it's a step in that direction.
Pak Army will never accept LoC turning into IB. Pak army will lose its relevance doing so and huge budget they grab will be lost. Imrand wants to show that he included Kashmir as new province to convince Pak jahil awam also they can ceed GB to china for some dollars
 

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Words sound good. So do ‘One border One Force’ concept touted by MHA. And thus a sensitive LAC was placed under ITBP whose ‘Command HQ’ is located in Chandigarh reporting to MHA And now that the shit has hit the ceiling, ITBP is no where to be seen and the army is being blamed.

for the transgressions. Question ... Why is LAC under MHA and not under MOD. Why is ITBP not placed in der comd Army and reporting to it directly. This muddle headed empire building is hurting us, yet we are not ready to take a complete review and bite the bullet.
 

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preempt India having funny ideas when sh1t gets real in SCS.

watch any chinese forum, they are all expecting SCS to get hot, that is their main concern. Even here, they messed up their plans as it has lead to India troops being locked and loaded, so if sh1t gets real in SCS, they are stuffed for sure now.

Earlier there was a chance India would play NAM and stay out. Maybe they truly underestimated this govt ans thought no one will get a whiff and India will not even know enough or care, forget about being pushed back.
Nahi hoga lol.
The Globalists will muzzle their superpower dog from doing anything like this.
 

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1. At Galwan.. at the confluence of Shyok and Galwan.. the PLA would cut off DSDBO road isolating subsector North to an extent.
2 . Then the division at Moldo would break out at Chushul, turn right head north towards Darbuk and dominate the Changla pass.. and stop reinforcement coming in.
3 From Tangtse they can swing towards Lukung.. while the troops on the northern bank of Pangong Tso march towards Phobrang thus capturing whole of Pangong complex and cutting off Indian positions at Gogra..
4. To cut off air connectivity to sub sector North, PLA mechanized divisions in depsang would attack DBO airstrip and occupy it. and move towards Murgo to cut off the Leh - Saser la - DBO road..
End state: Cut off and occupy whole of subsector North and also siachen down the road. Also, occupy whole of Pangong complex
sounds like a brilliant plan..

if you are against a tinpot army led by tinpot leader...

Maybe the PLA thought they were, nothing else explains the foolishness of the plan. I keep going ove rit and can't make sense. Is there something obvious we are missing?

Don't seem to, so I will have to go with the simple answer. PLA was trapped in echo chambers and maybe were amplified by our porkies.
 

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preempt India having funny ideas when sh1t gets real in SCS.

watch any chinese forum, they are all expecting SCS to get hot, that is their main concern. Even here, they messed up their plans as it has lead to India troops being locked and loaded, so if sh1t gets real in SCS, they are stuffed for sure now.

Earlier there was a chance India would play NAM and stay out. Maybe they truly underestimated this govt ans thought no one will get a whiff and India will not even know enough or care, forget about being pushed back.
Can you please explain why you think SCS would go hot in the near future? I see no signs for that yet....
 

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Lol how could a small number of Kashmiri Pandits would've saved themselves from Armed & hostile mobs? We are seeing these things in UP sometimes where Hindus are in majority & you are talking about a freakin muslim majority state.
Ladakh scouts is a armed regiment in IA what more do you desire? They are defending their motherland.
Small number of muslims still fight.....that is what brave people do to make a point. There was not even a token uprising....there were enough hindus in Jammu area...when few stand up entire village might go with them. Tamils fought in SL and IA Rezang La battle and many more instances where groups and section of ethnic people put up a fight regardless of odds. How do you drive fear into enemy by palayan at first instance?
 
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Locals( KP, Ladakhi ) lack the numbers and get no support from Govt, Kashmiri Muzz has support from bhaijaan's in Rawalpindi and from Arab abbujaan's also.
Guarding the borders is GoI's responsibility tbh. 5 tibetan Yak herders can't do much vs numberless Han drones.


Most North Easter tribals are hostile to GoI anyway, they don't count.



Chad :
"Onus is on India to de-escalate and disengage"
"China is ready for peace and for war"
"Not an Inch of Chinese territory will be surrendered"

MEAvirgin:
"Sir, i humbly request you to please leave border areas and not unilaterally change the status quo"
talking about support, interesting video detailing why Khalistanis take support of Pakistan, a place that persecutes sikhs
 
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