India-China 2020 Border conflict

[cereal killer]

Guys about afghanistan can't we just send special forces equipment and fund factions there.

US should not have a problem until the job is getting done right.

ISI's own backyard.. good luck with that. Better would be to train some afghan army dudes & tell them to keep Afg Pak border hot

 

[WARREN SS]

If we have some agreement with US, it won't be about Afg...

We are sitting on the most important sea route in the world.
the strategic importance of where we are at can not be underestimated,

In case things turn ugly between China & US....
India offers a great opportunity to squeeze Chinese balls.
We can open a new front for US against China from Ladakh or Arunachal. We can also lay siege at Malacca.
This would seriously deplete PLA capability to fight US since they will need to split their military to cater to Indian challenge.
Otherwise, PLA can sit pretty on east coast and defend.

Well agreement are not Gospel

Today we agreed on Something
Tomorrow when will reach economically sanw as chinese or at stage where we can shift global geopolitical environment

Many such agreement made up and broken in past

What actually matters is in present
And what we are facing

That is threat of Engagement on two-fronts
That is ideally not better scenario

Like For Germany in Second wold war.

Two nuclear nation are direct adversary
In East and western border .

 

[scatterStorm]

Guys about afghanistan can't we just send special forces equipment and fund factions there.

US should not have a problem until the job is getting done right.

Not a right Thread to discuss this. However, we have started doing it in Balochistan.

 

[cereal killer]

If we have some agreement with US, it won't be about Afg...

We are sitting on the most important sea route in the world.
the strategic importance of where we are at can not be underestimated,

In case things turn ugly between China & US....
India offers a great opportunity to squeeze Chinese balls.
We can open a new front for US against China from Ladakh or Arunachal. We can also lay siege at Malacca.
This would seriously deplete PLA capability to fight US since they will need to split their military to cater to Indian challenge.
Otherwise, PLA can sit pretty on east coast and defend.

US has little interest to what India does on its borders.. Unless its on Paki border. US always has had a thing for Indian Navy. It certainly wants Indian Navy to to actively help US dominate SEA.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Guys.. when it comes to transport / lift to super high altitude locations India has ALH, , Cheetah/Cheetal Chinook .. that can all operate at Siachen..
What are the equivalent capabilities with China?
Their Z-8, Z-9, Mi 26 wont work at 6000 meters. That leaves Sikorsky S-70. How good is it at 6000 meters. What other options does PLA have ?

 

[patriots]

Weren't osints first to claim firing happened...
Then confirmed by China
Only now ia is confirming that firing happened for 4 times.....
And baba was first to inform about operation snow leopard
My point is that .......
Journalists can share only news which come from their sources
But osints post anything they got to know (sometimes true sometimes false)
But osints does not have the responsibility that a journalist has.....so osint can post a news faster than a journalist.....

So my request to my fellow members that please check the comment section before putting any twitter link here......
Though I have stopped posting those links here.....it's very difficult to know the truth .

 

[WARREN SS]

ISI's own backyard.. good luck with that. Better would be to train some afghan army dudes & tell them to keep Afg Pak border hot

That is not ISI backyard
It was backyard of mercenaries ones which pays more
CIA stopped there funding so there relign on ISI and Russians and chinese and Iran.

You rate ISI more than what they are capable off

 

[prasadr14]

Bottom line ->

If we want US to help us strategically,
We also need to help US.

That's how the world works.

China will never be a friend, it will not be a partner, simply because it covets our lands.
Where as with US, it may not be our friend, but we can be a partner & the best thing is, it does not covet our lands.

The false equivalence about China & US is dumb really.
US has not occupied an inch of our land....let that sink in.

 

[WARREN SS]

While we are sitting about why we non align are self with US

ISI is pimping a Extraction deal with CIA in Afghanistan

That made them in good books of both China and CIA

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

What kind of adversary does this. playing songs when alert level is highest and war can start anytime.

only thing which can be concluded is "hans Chinese are proving that indeed their Dicks are small, low testosterone level, and have unsatisfied wifes". they're are providing that they can noo fight MEN, so doing this nonsense.

Are they even human, or Just small dick creatures which just look like humans.

Millions of single hans are single and muthal because they don't have wifes, else rest is right on point.

 

[cereal killer]

That is not ISI backyard
It was backyard of mercenaries ones which pays more
CIA stopped there funding so there relign on ISI and Russians and chinese and Iran.

You rate ISI more than what they are capable off

With Haqqani Network & anything that had clear backing of ISI.. It's one of the prominent reasons why India ain't interested on boots on ground... Apart from costly logistics.
The recent Afg Vice President attack has been linked back to ISI
Apart from other things as well

Return of the Empire: ISI strikes back

With the USA implementing an exit strategy from Afghanistan the ISI has sensed an opportunity. However, what will haunt ISI is recent protests by families of students martyred during the Army Public School massacre against escape of former Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan.

m.economictimes.com

Backed by ISI, Haqqani Network is making a game-changing move in Afghanistan

According to officials, the ISKP can front attacks for the Haqqani Network and Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT). ISKP leader Aslam Farooqi, a Pakistani national with links to LeT and Pakistan’s Tehrik-e-Taliban was arrested by Afghanistan’s National Directorate of Security along with 19 other terrorist...

m.hindustantimes.com

 

[WARREN SS]

Bottom line ->

If we want US to help us strategically,
We also need to help US.

That's how the world works.

China will never be a friend, it will not be a partner, simply because it covets our lands.
Where as with US, it may not be our friend, but we can be a partner & the best thing is, it does not covet our lands.

The false equivalence about China & US is dumb really.
US has not occupied an inch of our land....let that sink in.

Bro its Socialist and Leftost propoganda

CPI hates US the most as it is Ideological counter of Communists laboratory USSR

And ended it.

India has 44 years of KGB influence in our systems
Its created a Ideological paradox even in most democratic mindset in india

There is no equivalence of Communists and A democratic nation.

 

[WARREN SS]

With Haqqani Network & anything that had clear backing of ISI.. It's one of the prominent reasons why India ain't interested on boots on ground... Apart from costly logistics.
The recent Afg Vice President attack has been linked back to ISI
Apart from other things as well

Return of the Empire: ISI strikes back

With the USA implementing an exit strategy from Afghanistan the ISI has sensed an opportunity. However, what will haunt ISI is recent protests by families of students martyred during the Army Public School massacre against escape of former Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan.

m.economictimes.com

That is mere hyper bole
Talibani itself a module which operates differently from ISI

Who do you think responsible for So many attacks in Pakistan

Taliban has ideological support of 30-40% Afghans and pastuns

They still don't want to accept democracy as for them its Western concept

They always fight for domination over other tribes
Like northern alliance.

Read about Taliban rule pre US invasion of 2001.

ISI is only pimps who supply weapons
And Taliban is using then to take control back like in 90's

 

[cereal killer]

That is mere hyper bole
Talibani itself a module which operates differently from ISI

Who do you think responsible for So many attacks in Pakistan

Taliban has ideological support of 30-40% Afghans and pastuns

They still don't want to accept democracy as for them its Western concept

They always fight for domination over other tribes
Like northern alliance.

Read about Taliban rule pre US invasion of 2001.

ISI is only pimps who supply weapons
And Taliban is using then to take control back like in 90's

Yes that's why Afghans have always been hostile to outside forces as one poster pointed out nobody wants to see body bags for a black hole like AFG that US itself created.
A trade route is what India has always desired.

 

[WARREN SS]

Yes that's why Afghans have always been hostile to outside forces as one poster pointed out nobody wants to see body bags for a black hole like AFG that US itself created.
A trade route is what India has always desired.

Its hypothetical
US itself making an exit.
But India wants Northern alliance govt
And that can only possible if actually Support them logistically and Militaristic point .

Remember Ashoka ruled them for many years and several Indian empires
Until Arrival of Hunnic invasion its was india
Playgirl

 

[Bhadra]

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Ambrane does a lot of manufacturing india but boat is just Micromax, everything is made in China.

Tejas rather if they are going to invest time and money into doing that....even mk1 will be better. Similar advanced trainers max load is 3t at normal conditions....not high alt and comes at some fuel tank ratio, generally all planes do. At high alt those parameters even get reduced further....taking away the benefit down. Yes, as you indicated anything is possible in a desperate attempt and may be they are useful in some theatres like Myanmar and BD.

But brands have to start somewhere,they can progress to local manufacturing later.the main thing I have noticed is that these brands have cool factor which will help it grow and they always seem price competitive.i knew boat had manufacturing in china when I bought it.

 

[vayuu1]

Kuch huva kya?

Abhi to nhi, kuch bhi nahi.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Chai biscoot session ka date set hua kya ?

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars PLA unlike 1962, is opening all fronts including middle sector (HP, Uttarakhand) in a clear motive to stretch India maximum. Chinese activity is increasing near Nepal-India-China trijunction.

Frontal Assault.

We know the last incident of firing on the India-China border (before 2020) was in 1975. But do we know how 4 Indian soldiers were killed at Tulung La in Arunachal Pradesh that time? The PLA’s perfidious behaviour is as old as India-China boundary dispute. Even four decades later, the Indian Army officer who had the unpleasant task of receiving bodies of 4 Assam Rifles soldiers tortured and killed by the Chinese at Tulung La in 1975, gets angry and emotional.

It was hushed up he says. By the Army, by the govt. Everyone. Just brushed under the carpet. He was ordered to go there without arms. When you listen to the full interview, you will realise how pusillanimous we have been.

Nitin Gokhale.