India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Chandragupt Maurya

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Toh maine kab kaha nahin hai.. It is very crucial for India. But you are saying its worthless for Pakistan.. Like they are Gandhi's next incarnation & will give it to us for free.. Coz it's of no value to them :lol:
for that we need to fight we need war if we really want to lift our people out of poverty bring peace and prosperity in this region like Europe
 

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whenever Antonio manio and pappu goes for foreign tour after that communal riots happen in India. Astrology is also telling this.
so we should be aware.
bro, i believe what you said, but recently i became interested in astrology. could you please provide the source of the astrology prediction where it says communal riots and war is about to happen?
 

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if the hawk trainers armour can be upgraded, and a strafe fun/cannon be added, sure , it could be a great CAS aircraft too.
Jointly being developed by HAL and BAE, the Advanced Hawk Mk132 has seven wing stations for mounting weapons/missiles/bombs and reconnaissance equipment. These weapons need to be integrated with the avionics of the aircraft.

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Whether these Advanced Hawks have been operationalized is unknown! If not, it should be expedited for CAS ops especially against the Chinese dingos in Ladakh!
 

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Road to Daulat Beg Oldi will allow tank movement by Oct 15 as army prepares for Ladakh winter

All bridges will bear 70 tons on Darbuk-Shyok-Daulet Beg Oldi Road so that tank plus truck trailers can go upto Karakoram pass.

Preparing for a long winter ahead facing the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) in East Ladakh, the Border Roads Organisation (BRO) has decided to allowed Srinagar-Zoji La-Kargil Leh axis to be closed only for 45 days from past average 95 days due to snow this year and will strengthen all the bridges on Darbuk-Shyok-Daulat Beg Oldi (DBO) road to bear the load of tank plus truck trailer by next month.​


Authoritative government sources told Hindustan Times that the BRO, under the defence ministry, will also keep the new Darcha-Padam-Nimu-Leh road clear of snow throughout December and January 2021 so that military supply route is maintained route the clock. The Modi government is now considering to prepare for the shortest tunnel at Shinku La on Darcha-Padam axis so that this road this snow free throughout the year.​

Given that the PLA is showing no signs of abiding with the agreements between the Special Representatives on Boundary Talks (July 5, 2020) and between foreign ministers (September 10, 2020) on total disengagement to restore status quo ante on LAC, the Indian Army is rushing in supplies with the BRO ensuring that 17,580 feet high Chang La pass and 17,582 feet Khardung La on route to contested Pangong Tso is kept snow free throughout the year.​

With an aim to keep weapon deployment in East Ladakh to match the PLA build-up in occupied Aksai Chin, the BRO is expected to strengthen all bridges and culverts to Class 70 on the DSDBO road by October 15. Class 70 bridge means that it can bear a load of 70 tons, which is more than the weight of a fully loaded tank trailer. In strategic terms this means that in case of worst case scenario, the DSDBO road can be used to deploy T -90 tanks, infantry combat vehicle and surface to air missiles all along the eastern Ladakh Line of Actual Control with Tibet.​

While the BRO is expected to validate the Darcha-Padam-Nimu-Leh axis for heavy vehicle traffic this month, there is intense discussion within the Ministry of Defence on the length and alignment of the tunnel under 16000 feet Shinku La. The National Highways and Infrastructure Development Corporation Limited (NHIDCL) has been tasked to study the shortest possible alignment for the tunnel so that it can be readied in next four years.​

Majority of the stake-holders, including ministry of surface transport, are in favour of a shorter 4.5-km tunnel alignment on the current axis rather than a 13-km alignment suggested by Snow and Avalanche Study Establishment (SASE) of the Defence Ministry. The longer alignment will not only delay the project with a host of studies and detailed project report to be completed. It has now been left to Defence Minister Rajnath Singh to take a final call.​
 

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Another good reason why UN should be decommissioned.

India responds to UN human rights chief’s criticism of situation in Kashmir

In her global human rights update on Monday, UN high commissioner for human rights Michelle Bachelet had said that both “incidents of military and police violence against civilians” and incidents related to militancy were continuing in Kashmir.


if you must know, Michelle Bachelet is in Chinese payroll and she turned blind eye to all human right violation in china specially to uighyur muslims. she is keeping mum for all human right and basic freedom violation in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

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(in pic: Michelle Bachelet, an old fuck from chile)
Its just now a pet of china. Before it was pet of USA.
 

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for that we need to fight we need war if we really want to lift our people out of poverty bring peace and prosperity in this region like Europe
I ever think why the most rich countries like America, japan, france,germany, Italy, and some others in the world are those who fought the world war I &II. Is their any co incidence that khaakh main milkar bhi ye countries again made the road to be the rich countries and those like India with many Asian countries and African are still behind.
I think yudh or paisa ek hi sikke ke do pahlon hain. You fight and become rich after some period. Any comment most well comed.
 

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Time to give large orders of tanks and artillery to domestic private industry.
Many American tech companies are either scared or actively collaborating with China.

India will need its own mobile apps. Cannot depend on USA.
 

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We should go to war our main objective should be Liberation of POK , Baluchistan and Sindhudesh Then the war will bring peace and prosperity in South Asia and a European Union like entity can come into existence
like 2nd world war brought peace and prosperity in USA and Europe
A very noble objective but not very feasible at the current moment.
U need massive Logistic, manpower and money to do that.
The way things are now our men don't have proper basic gear let alone gucci gear that every rag tag US soldiers rocks.
Lacking in fighter jets, helicopters, Troop transporters, AWACS, refulers
Lacking in Sumbarine fleet.
Lacking in Ground Troop Transport.
Lacking in small arms.
Lacking in artillery.

To dominate Pakistan u will need either Quality or Quantity and if U have both quality and Quantity than u can Balkanise Pak easy.

The way Indian amry operate is like that of Daily Wage Labourer earn just enough to not go hungry everyday, no ambition to go further just enough to barely make it through.
This was because of Short Sightedness of Politician, Babus, Officers and the general masses as well.
Things haven't improved still now.

U see we are a manpower intensive Force. We depend mostly on ground soldier rather than technology to exercise control.
I can give u many example I will just give BSF case on this one.
Until very recently Indo Bangladesh was a open or partially fenced one, when BJP came to power they initiated the process of fencing the entire thing who's status is not known right now.
At the end of the day u have to put men to Guard those borders but the no of men can be decreased by implementing smart fence like that of Israel.

Once u free up men u can divert them to your objective like capturing POK or Freeing Baluchistan.

BSF itself is a 250,000 strong force which can serve the function of Defending forces of Indian borders, currently they are a bit more than shooting target for Elite Paki forces like SSG.
If things are done right and BSF sheds its UPSC legacy and embrace its military part than it can become a force good enough to repel incoming Paki attacks.

250,000 is no small no if utilized right it can dominate the whole standings Paki army.
 

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Gilgit Baltistan has borders with Afghanistan if we capture GB we can use it import minerals from Afghanistan which will help Afghanistan economy as well
And this is one of the way we can pay for this incoming war among this economic disaster. Both recovering ours and our friendly country economy.
 

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“Logistically,” the officer said, the Chinese will “not be able to stay” where they want to go, “especially in another month” when the peaks start getting snow. The Indian side, he said, had a shorter connection to their base at Finger 3 than the Chinese to their base between Finger 6 and Finger 7.
Disagree. The distance from their logistics base at Finger 6 to Finger 4 is just over a couple of Kms. They have a road (built in 1999) almost up to Finger 4 (from Sirijap). Takes them 10 minutes to traverse that distance in vehicles.
 

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Time to give large orders of tanks and artillery to domestic private industry.
From where the money will come for them , MoD has still stuck to the Elbi ATMOs 1500 Artillery, no extra orders for ATAGs, ALH, Vajra, WhAP, FICV, or any private firms then why they will invest if no orders has been made. Even the 12.5 billion US Dollars is not enough for the Domestic Capital Procuments.
 
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