India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Covfefe]

Forgive my Hindi -

iss thread ka stithi deehkhiyae. Sirf thoda drish cheeniyoon ne dala aur hangama shuru (mein bhi iss mein shamil).

Agar stiti aise hai hamare man mein (manasik), tab kya hoga jab samgraan hoga (Hamara bahut log swarg praapt karenge) desh ko manasik shakti chahiyae. sambhalna chahiyau.

That's what. Same was the situation when Wg Cdr was captured alive in Pak. And then the dreams of running over enemies- you don't do that without taking significant losses on your side.

Chinkis are doing psy-ops, you do it too. Send a raiding party of SFs and Ghataks to burn down their tents and thrash a few of them. And all these psyops drama will get headlines till the first shot is fired- the probability of which remains pretty high now.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Hopefully.

But the fact that an image conscious nation like china just took the risk to escalate without any major escalation knowing full well that any counter from us could lead to massive instability I'm China does not give the right vibes.

It's almost as if they are confident in our ability to not counter them.

Chinese media & Weibo is fully controlled by CCP. Nothing will cross to their side. Remember after Galwan, the series of arrests made in China of prominent influencers who posted questioning PLAGF martyrs and asked for more evidence?

Local Chinese mango people won't hear anything. Pics propagated through Weibo will be taken down in a matter of minutes before spreading.

Captured Jihadis dont impress me.

Image consious for what? GoI should back its claims with empirical evidences. Soldier to Soldier should be the ratio. Not some low life jihadi cannon fodder.

"Koi nahi ghusa hai" virus must not enter inside our forces too.


I dont expect pics to be released from our side.

Image conscious for maintaining trust and narrative. GoI has learned after the Balakot strike. Chinese ones are tricky because GoI inherently doesn't want to anger China (who values its image more than ground reality).

But if they cross the boundary then we have no obligations not to.

 

[Jimih]

Forgive my Hindi -

iss thread ka stithi deehkhiyae. Sirf thoda drish cheeniyoon ne dala aur hangama shuru (mein bhi iss mein shamil).

Agar stiti aise hai hamare man mein (manasik), tab kya hoga jab samgraan hoga (Hamara bahut log swarg praapt karenge) desh ko manasik shakti chahiyae. sambhalna chahiyau.

It is not about Maansik Stithi mate.

The ROE (Rules of Engagement) has changed drasticaly in last 1 decade and we Indians are still lingering to "grease and tackle" mentality World War style.

GoI and Indians must understand, what China is doing now is a part of Modern Warfare.

Kinetic warfare may or may not be necessary to meet your end goals.

 

[Floydian]

There was an informal (verbal) agreement between local commanders after the Galwan clash that both sides will not release any pictures or casualties of another side.

See, now these smol pener honorless Chinese has done it. No conscience or morality, just like their goat-shagging slaves from the west.

I have seen face-down into water pictures of Chinese kid soldiers on mobiles of 16th Bihar folks, most of their mobiles got confiscated after the clash, and any related photos collected then deleted.

So now China should not cry if we show some of their "hidden" casualties apart from their declared propaganda.



I don't blame you, Balakot had us all questioning that too. But you see, if we don't trust and support GoI + Armed forces, then the Chinese have won the psychological battle of lowering our morales.



Our soldiers had their weapons confiscated, of course, they won't be standing in full armour like the Chinese.
Also what's bad with INSAS? It is (still) our standard battle rifle in case you forgot. Sigs & AKs are special procurements.

Well we all are aware that our men didn't have those body armour like the PLA had until the Galwan incidence. Those would have definitely helped our men fight better in the melee and save against injury!
Also, we know the issues with Insas rifles, it's high time we replace them with better rifles atleast at these hotspot locations along with LAC/LOC...

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Chinese media & Weibo is fully controlled by CCP. Nothing will cross to their side. Remember after Galwan, the series of arrests made in China of prominent influencers who posted questioning PLAGF martyrs and asked for more evidence?

Local Chinese mango people won't hear anything. Pics propagated through Weibo will be taken down in a matter of minutes before spreading.



Image conscious for maintaining trust and narrative. GoI has learned after the Balakot strike. Chinese ones are tricky because GoI inherently doesn't want to anger China (who values its image more than ground reality).

But if they cross the boundary then we have no obligations not to.

This is the consensus in the Chinese that no Chinese got captured I hope and pray goi releases pics now they did it at a calculated time 1.5 years after the clash to show Thier story even of goi shows just 1 more dead body of a Chinese ladyboy Thier entire propoganda will fall

 

[mist_consecutive]

Forgive my Hindi -

iss thread ka stithi deehkhiyae. Sirf thoda drish cheeniyoon ne dala aur hangama shuru (mein bhi iss mein shamil).

Agar stiti aise hai hamare man mein (manasik), tab kya hoga jab samgraan hoga (Hamara bahut log swarg praapt karenge) desh ko manasik shakti chahiyae. sambhalna chahiyau.

Been here a long time (don't go by my joining date).

We are not disheartened (or in dismay) by casualties. Defeat and death are part of life, we envy and honor our martyrs to be able to die for the most glorious cause, and pity our enemies for the wrath they will be getting in return.

I remember last year during Galwan clash, emotions were high but not a single person was depressed. We all were just waiting for the retribution to land on the Chinese.

What makes us sad is when our brothers are not avenged, our pride is challenged, and GoI swallows and restrains us for the sake of "greater good" and "peace".

 

[SavageKing456]

Sabre rattling on this forum proves that psyops works even if you're aware of it.

 

[Jimih]

Image conscious for maintaining trust and narrative.

Well the Trust of Indians GoI will lose soon, if it allowed to go like this.

And about Narratives, both China and Pakistan had upperhand over us in recent multiple occasions.

And there goes GoI's Image Conscious obsession out of the window.

 

[EarthCitizen]

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[Cheepek]

No good rationale for not releasing pictures apart from suffering from some mental block. Pictures will hurt Ching Ping far more than they can hurt Modi.
It does not matter if they censor the photographs on their social media, they will surely reach to those who they are supposed to reach.
Ching Ping expends a considerable amount of political capital to keep things in his control in China, which also makes him more fragile. He has no dearth of enemies and competitors.
If GoI really believes China is enemy, what stops it from trying to destabilize the enemy?

 

[Knowitall]

Chinese media & Weibo is fully controlled by CCP. Nothing will cross to their side. Remember after Galwan, the series of arrests made in China of prominent influencers who posted questioning PLAGF martyrs and asked for more evidence?

Local Chinese mango people won't hear anything. Pics propagated through Weibo will be taken down in a matter of minutes before spreading.



Image conscious for maintaining trust and narrative. GoI has learned after the Balakot strike. Chinese ones are tricky because GoI inherently doesn't want to anger China (who values its image more than ground reality).

But if they cross the boundary then we have no obligations not to.

Thay video of captured chinese soldier on ground with our troops and the image of graveyards had spread far and wide in Chinese SM which lead to massive randi rona from their side.

Times have changes GOI should spread pictures far and wide let them be shamed around the globe.

Apne aap aukaat pe aa jayenge.

Whole wiebo went into meltdown. The fact that chinese were arresting people is a good sign that our videos worked back then.

 

[Covfefe]

If GoI really believes China is enemy, what stops it from trying to destabilize the enemy?

That's the issue. It has never taken a stance where it says China is the enemy

 

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Basically, everybody wants transparency..

 

[EarthCitizen]

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Sorav jha tweeted that LAC heats up but later he deleted that tweeted

 

[lixun]

Well we all are aware that our men didn't have those body armour like the PLA had until the Galwan incidence. Those would have definitely helped our men fight better in the melee and save against injury!
Also, we know the issues with Insas rifles, it's high time we replace them with better rifles atleast at these hotspot locations along with LAC/LOC...

I am curious, why Indian soldiers do not have uniform camouflage uniforms. They only wear ordinary light green jackets, with fewer bulletproof vests and helmets, and they rarely see that the Indian army has professionally equipped ORV

 

[mist_consecutive]

 

[HawkisRight]

India, China border talks tomorrow; Hot Springs de-escalation possible

While India will welcome the de-escalation from Hot Springs after the Gogra agreement in the previous round of military dialogue, New Delhi wants continued discussions to resolve patrolling rights in Depsang Bulge and Charding Nullah Junction.

www.hindustantimes.com

So chai biscuit party tomorrow at Chusul...so don't expect any "release" from GoI till Monday depending upon outcome of tomorrow's meeting

 

[Jimih]

No good rationale for not releasing pictures apart from suffering from some mental block. Pictures will hurt Ching Ping far more than they can hurt Modi.
It does not matter if they censor the photographs on their social media, they will surely reach to those who they are supposed to reach.
Ching Ping expends a considerable amount of political capital to keep things in his control in China, which also makes him more fragile. He has no dearth of enemies and competitors.
If GoI really believes China is enemy, what stops it from trying to destabilize the enemy?

Thats what I am batting for, take the Psywar to their turf.

Chinese will do massive Bidhwa Vilaap and Randi Rona and the throne of Xi will shake.

China will not able to take internal dissent, thats what they fear the most.

India can have some massive leverage, if combined with Evergrande crisis, electricity blackouts, covid deaths with release of pics and vids from LAC.

The Bol Bacchan by GoI must be avoided, just days before Indian media reported about IA capturing PLA troops in Tawang and What China did? they released new pics of Galwan clash which shows us in poor light. In this manner can we be the Net Security Provider in IOR?

How many times we will be checkmated on Perception Battle? one time is ok, two times is ok.....but time after time after time? whats the deal with us?

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

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