Let's be honest here everyone was braying for friendship with china the past few years.
Bc short term memory loss hai Kya? Yeh comment maar ke doosro ko positivity ka lecture de raha hai:
indianexpress.com
You are right It does mention 1 turnaround year my bad.
Daily cost of maintaing a bridage in Siachen is 5cr, Eastern ladhak should be less, isn't?
Ajay shukla along with twitter OSINT is again false.
But modern bombers are equipped with long-range cruise missiles that vastly exceed what conventional fighters can carry. What bombers offer is the ability to take long-distance shots at the enemy, sometimes well within your own territory. Fighter jets simply cannot duplicate that kind of performance because they're not big enough.
Unironically send such people to Pakistan.
Mc isse pehle vaale comment padne me faat rahi hai kya teri bc mujhe laag raha hai tu hi hai vo jo gandh faila raha hai
Xi spoiled it all, he could have turned it the other way but he did not because of his expansionist mindset. India and China could have dominated world market and military had we worked together, but it was never to come , there is no peaceful rise of China, the only major competitor for China in Asia is India and make no mistake they have always viewed us as a threat any extension of hands was immediately followed by treachery by their side now they are gonna pay for it be it economically or maybe even militarily.
New details:
this operation to reach the unoccupied heights took almost a month of careful planning — from the drawing board to implementation on the field.
Plans for such a move, a source in the security establishment said, had the political go-ahead from Delhi because there was realisation there that Beijing was not serious about completing disengagement of troops.
But by July 14, the fourth round of talks, it was clear that China was not pulling back its troops fully from Gogra Post and Hot Spring areas, and the ridges of the Fingers area on the north bank of Pangong Tso.
When the August 2 meeting ended with China not even ready to accept it had violated Indian territory on Pangong Tso’s north bank, the Indian establishment realised that military action to wrest some tactical advantage was the only option.
The final plan, the source said, had been ready for over a fortnight before the action. “Two weeks before it happened, the seriousness about putting weight on this particular action started gaining. Then the ground commanders came here to give presentations.”
Locations of tactical advantage were discussed. Strategies to achieve them were worked upon. Each and every move, to the last detail, was mapped. And just before the operations, reconnaissance was carried out.
“There were three forces at our disposal — the Special Frontier Force (SFF), the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) and, of course, the Indian Army. Units were specifically picked to take over particular heights with SFF commandos leading at many places,” the officer said.
Sources said the operation – it extended to the night of August 30-31 — helped India take positions on heights surrounding Black Top and Helmet Top. “The Chinese continue to dominate Black Top and Helmet Top, but we have surrounded them on heights around it. Though perceptions of LAC differ, we are still on our side of the LAC,” an intelligence officer said.
What has riled China, the officer said, is India’s positions around Rezang La and Rechin La. “The positions we have taken in the Chushul sector on heights such as Magar Hill and Gurung Hill has exposed China’s Moldo garrison and the Spanggur Gap, strategically very important to China,” the officer said.
there have been two instances of firing in the area – for the first time in 45 years along the LAC. While China reacted to an incident of firing on September 7, calling it a “grave provocation”, sources said the first shot was fired on the night of August 30. On September 7 too, the firing happened in the same sector for the same reason
The Indian Army denied it had opened fire along the LAC, or that it had crossed the LAC.
Before foiling Chinese moves, India worked on plan for almost a month
By the crack of dawn, Indian forces had taken dominant positions on some key heights along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), snaking through the south bank of Pangong Tso to Rechin La near Rezang La.
Read between the lines especially the last 2 paras.
Reading it either ways is like pedalling the Chinese narrative on the forumNew details:
this operation to reach the unoccupied heights took almost a month of careful planning — from the drawing board to implementation on the field.
Plans for such a move, a source in the security establishment said, had the political go-ahead from Delhi because there was realisation there that Beijing was not serious about completing disengagement of troops.
But by July 14, the fourth round of talks, it was clear that China was not pulling back its troops fully from Gogra Post and Hot Spring areas, and the ridges of the Fingers area on the north bank of Pangong Tso.
When the August 2 meeting ended with China not even ready to accept it had violated Indian territory on Pangong Tso’s north bank, the Indian establishment realised that military action to wrest some tactical advantage was the only option.
The final plan, the source said, had been ready for over a fortnight before the action. “Two weeks before it happened, the seriousness about putting weight on this particular action started gaining. Then the ground commanders came here to give presentations.”
Locations of tactical advantage were discussed. Strategies to achieve them were worked upon. Each and every move, to the last detail, was mapped. And just before the operations, reconnaissance was carried out.
“There were three forces at our disposal — the Special Frontier Force (SFF), the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) and, of course, the Indian Army. Units were specifically picked to take over particular heights with SFF commandos leading at many places,” the officer said.
Sources said the operation – it extended to the night of August 30-31 — helped India take positions on heights surrounding Black Top and Helmet Top. “The Chinese continue to dominate Black Top and Helmet Top, but we have surrounded them on heights around it. Though perceptions of LAC differ, we are still on our side of the LAC,” an intelligence officer said.
What has riled China, the officer said, is India’s positions around Rezang La and Rechin La. “The positions we have taken in the Chushul sector on heights such as Magar Hill and Gurung Hill has exposed China’s Moldo garrison and the Spanggur Gap, strategically very important to China,” the officer said.
there have been two instances of firing in the area – for the first time in 45 years along the LAC. While China reacted to an incident of firing on September 7, calling it a “grave provocation”, sources said the first shot was fired on the night of August 30. On September 7 too, the firing happened in the same sector for the same reason
The Indian Army denied it had opened fire along the LAC, or that it had crossed the LAC.
Before foiling Chinese moves, India worked on plan for almost a month
By the crack of dawn, Indian forces had taken dominant positions on some key heights along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), snaking through the south bank of Pangong Tso to Rechin La near Rezang La.
Read between the lines especially the last 2 paras.
Daal hi de teri positive commentary padh loon. Khud ki phatke "so we lost land.......again
" karne waala doosro ko bol raha hai "negativity mat phailao".the reason we don't ask for april status quo ante is apparent.. we are in a better position.
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Daal hi de teri positive commentary padh loon. Khud ki phatke "so we lost land.......again
Idhar hi justify kar de. Kyun ulta seedha ghuma raha hai?
It's not that simple at all.the reason we don't ask for april status quo ante is apparent.. we are in a better position.
if China wants April position , then it may be that + something else( cut off Pak/ SC seat maybe
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2 tactics... by occupying the key points, IA makes it costly for PLA to maintain forces in F4-F8.
SC seat and cutting off Pak is a bit too much if you ask me, if the Chinese are willing to do that then it would mean the end of Xi and tremendous loss of face for China however it can happen if India wins a short war of sorts but just the actions on 29/30 coupled with a few economic sanctions is not going to move China that far, however they might just be willing for april status quo ante and the negotiations for not moving from the occupied heights might be on IA's cards and is probably being worked out, mind you this is just a speculation.the reason we don't ask for april status quo ante is apparent.. we are in a better position.
if China wants April position , then it may be that + something else( cut off Pak/ SC seat maybe
PS : new user, been lurking... am regular on reddit r/Indiandefense r/indiaspeaks
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