As long as India relies on the Sameer Joshi, 2nd Guy theory, Bs Dhoana smugly claiming SAR imagery which cant be released. It will continue to loose the Information Warfare. As Even Pro India Analysts cant defend the Indian claims and She Called Indians liars on their faces. Then why do they expect that any Sane Analysts or countries will back their claims?
India Had a golden chance to Ask Russians to run reports in their own Print Media to discredit Pakistan and America like on RT Russian media that India SU-30 count has been done and found nothing amiss. Or India could have Asked Russia to debunk SU-30 Kill claim openly, why? Because Pakistan in September 2019 had a Gall to Invite Russian defense attache to Award ceremony where Squadron leader Hassan openly claimed killing a SU-30 and what was Russia Response? Silence
Pakistan released the Serial numbers of Mig-21 Missiles. Where is India and Russia Response on that one? Silence and Muted .
It is India Hubris that " World should belief IAF word" mantra that cost them Information warfare
It is India Hubris they underestimated Pakistan Electronic, Surveillance and BVR capabilities that cost them the Skirmish of 27 FEB.
As Long as Pakistan Narrative gets support/muted response from relevant quarters, It will continue to win Information warfare.
Its funny you would take all that Kaiser tufail said but dismiss what the serving ACM of the IAF said. Biased much?
The IAF is a professional force. Had it been hubris as you claim, the incumbent air chief would not have agreed that shooting down of the Mi-17 was a big mistake, neither the upgradation of legacy systems been given that coverage in the press. The air force undertook many lessons learnt and they are infact addressing them as we speak. The details are all over the internet. Had the IAF being concerned with all that Honor and dignity which you all are so concerned about, no such things would have come out in the press. Lest it remains unstated, India is a democracy and the govt runs the armed forces and not the other way round. Your minister refuses to give statement of people who have been killed in the LoC in the name of national security. Something like that in India would have been another huge scandal. You guys also claimed IAF as being unprofessional when planes crashed during routine flying. Now that the tempo has raised at the LoC please have a look at your air forces's crash rate too. Despite being smaller, you havent exactly covered you in glory. You guys harp upon Surya Kiran's pilots crashing, the Mirage crash at Bangalore but hey your top of the line CCS pilot too died while practising and took out an F-16 too. No one's laughing now.
Why is the onus on India to invite Russia to do a count of the Su-30's? Is it because you claim to have shot down one? Werent you crying out loud that the IAF pilot died in the road accident, then it became GS Luthra? Why dont you guys instead ask the USAF to do so for your F-16's? Ohh wait, because they dont really comment on that. So Russia's silence on your rock concert award show was a tacit admission of a Su-30 shot down while the USAF's refusal is not an admission of an F-16 shot down?
When the Mi-17 was shot down, the pictures of the airframe and the remains of the personnel were all over the internet and you say that your H-4 took out an ammo dump? This is Kashmir where the majority is not very appreciative of the armed forces and things like this make believe that you are taking about would have been all over the net similar to how the planes shot down over PoK have their so many videos captured.
This article below shows the restrictions still in place around Balakot. This is from BBC and you might need google translator for that.
बीते साल भारत ने पाकिस्तान के बालाकोट में एयर स्ट्राइक का दावा किया था. ठीक एक साल बाद वहां का मंजर देखने पहुंचे पत्रकार मोहम्मद ज़ुबैर ख़ान.
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Next about the seeker remaining intact, there are pics all over the net which show that this does not mean that the warhead failed to employ. Please google up the searcher-II UAV that was shot down and you will see many pics of the army standing with the seeker in their hands.
Christine fair called the IAF liars. But hey she also called the Pakistan army a lot of things too. Nothing to feel hunky dory about her. Are you implying the Pakistan army's incompetence since it came from her?
You guys fired off missiles from air space under your control. Took a guided media tour around Balakot, shut down the airspace for months. What exactly was stopping you guys? The retaliation from IAF perhaps that would now really liked to pay you back in your own coin now? The air force with hubris you say. While the air force on the other side, the best air force in the world, shutting down the airspace so as to have a better shot of identifying a bogey from this side.
You also say that spice would have razed the building and no ones believing the air force but hey not many have claimed to see the affect of the warhead too in person. There are many pics mostly from Syria, which may then interest you. Tin roofs. Weak buildings. Hit by bombs. Still standing and with nothing impressive to speak of inside. Spice is a fire and forget bomb and does not need to be guided all the way, unlike your H-4s that need to be guided by a comms aircraft.
What does it mean in the end? We suck at Info war and Psy ops. And this is the only thing worth agreeing with you. But here too unlike other depts of the govt beset with inertia, there has been some improvement in improving the Info war capabilities. Unlike ISPR, we had nothing. No longer so. No there remains much ground to be covered, we atleast have made a beginning. The recent video released by the Army of artillery pounding the Infiltration aids, shows we have come some way. And rest assured, this wont be an exception but a norm going forward.
Bask in the cocoon that you are in meanwhile.
