F-18 Advanced Super Hornet

[BON PLAN]

At least now we are sure that the twin engine plane that could be made in India is NOT EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON,
Thus that takes out two choices. Eurofighter and Rafale, that would leave F/A-18, MiG-35, Su-35 and PAKFA as the choices left. This process of elimination is proving very useful

NO. That leave only one choice as Rafale is already on track.

 

[smestarz]

You did not read or you did not understand?
At least now we are sure that the twin engine plane that could be made in India is NOT EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON,
Thus that takes out two choices. Eurofighter and Rafale, that would leave F/A-18, MiG-35, Su-35 and PAKFA as the choices left. This process of elimination is proving very useful

NO. That leave only one choice as Rafale is already on track.

 

[Zebra]

http://fa-18.com/photos/

 

[WolfPack86]

But the biggest opportunity for the nations to work together is on the horizon. After years of false starts, including the cancellation last year of the Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) program, the Modi government hopes to select a new fighter jet design to provide the backbone of the Indian Air Force.

Both Lockheed Martin and Boeing have teams in India pitching the F-16V and F/A-18 designs, respectively. While both fighters lost out under the MMRCA program, where the criteria was largely focused on price, the Modi government appears to be operating under new requirements, giving hope to the American firms.

If India selects an American fighter, it would change the relationship between US and Indian industry, Tellis said.

“I think the game changes because then you will have major defense cooperation on a scale we have never seen with the US,” he said. “It starts with buying 90 planes but probably ends up with manufacturing 200 airplanes in India. That is big. So I think that is something we will have to wait and see what happens.”
http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...lines-changed-india-us-relationship/85188894/

 

[WolfPack86]

Modi Visit to US it is high time Modi Should talk of buying F-18 Advance Super Hornet with Obama.

 

[kstriya]

You did not read or you did not understand?
At least now we are sure that the twin engine plane that could be made in India is NOT EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON,
Thus that takes out two choices. Eurofighter and Rafale, that would leave F/A-18, MiG-35, Su-35 and PAKFA as the choices left. This process of elimination is proving very useful

I guess Rafale will be dumped by RM in Singapore and F18 will be the other fighter and FGFA in made in India format. That is the logical end to all speculations for good. Tejas will be the back bone of IAF all naysayers will be disappointed

 

[WolfPack86]

PM Modi should not waste any more time . Must seal F-18 Advance Super Hornet deal during US visit

 

[Zebra]

I guess Rafale will be dumped by RM in Singapore and F18 will be the other fighter and FGFA in made in India format. That is the logical end to all speculations for good. Tejas will be the back bone of IAF all naysayers will be disappointed

I think FGFA will get dumped.

 

[kstriya]

I think FGFA will get dumped.

FGFA will not be dumped but the context of engagement will change. There might be greater Made in India and a model better than SU 30 MKI'ed version. We might see lot of these technologies being used in AMCA. The stakes are vey high in this project and we need a air superiority 5th Gen fighter.

 

[Zebra]

FGFA will not be dumped but the context of engagement will change. There might be greater Made in India and a model better than SU 30 MKI'ed version. We might see lot of these technologies being used in AMCA. The stakes are vey high in this project and we need a air superiority 5th Gen fighter.

People say like it, otherwise reality is totally different.

Everything end up like we are providing funds for someone else's project.

Just like, begani shadi mein abdulla deewana.

 

[asianobserve]

Canada Targets Super Hornet Buy, on Interim Basis

VICTORIA, British Columbia — The Canadian government wants to acquire the Super Hornet to fill its fighter-jet capability gap on an interim basis, a move that would also take the pressure off the country’s prime minister on the thorny political issue of the F-35.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense-news/2016/06/06/canada-super-hornets-f35/85480172/

 

[WolfPack86]

This Relentless Focus On Modi-Obama's Bromance Comes At A Price
Narendra Modi lands in Washington DC with a long to-do list.

There’s a Logistics Exchange Memorandum Agreement India and USA are negotiating. There’s a proposed deal with Westinghouse to build a nuclear plant. India wants US support for its membership of the Nuclear Supporters Group. The US wants India to ratify the Paris Climate Agreement. There’s talk about an agreement to purchase F-16 and F-18 fighter planes which would be manufactured in India.

And yet so much of the coverage is about the personal chemistry between the two leaders.
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/06/08/india-us-modi_n_10348190.html

 

[WolfPack86]

This is good development lets make F -18 Advance Super Hornet under Make in India

 

[BON PLAN]

I guess Rafale will be dumped by RM in Singapore and F18 will be the other fighter and FGFA in made in India format. That is the logical end to all speculations for good. Tejas will be the back bone of IAF all naysayers will be disappointed

No such news on the horizon.... French bashing it is called.

 

[BON PLAN]

Last news is that India want Reaper UCAV.

No news about F16I or SH18I .... stop dreaming.

 

[WolfPack86]

Fighter Jets
Modi now wants technology to build up India’s local defense manufacturing as he spends $150 billion to modernize its military by 2027. The U.S. and India agreed to explore sharing technology for aircraft carriers and jet engines, and both Lockheed Martin Corp. and Boeing Co. are competing for a new order that could surpass 100 fighter jets.

“My sense is this visit will have a significant component of defense cooperation," said Neelam Deo, a director of Mumbai-based think tank Gateway House and a former consul general for India in New York.

Yet despite the progress, constraints remain. India has long valued its strategic autonomy, limiting its cooperation with the U.S. in countering China. Although India routinely stresses the need for freedom of navigation in the South China Sea, it has refrained from joining U.S. patrol missions in the disputed waters.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...o-address-congress-as-india-shifts-toward-u-s

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian Govt must seal F-18 Advance Super Hornet deal quickly.

 

[BON PLAN]

The U.S. and India agreed to explore sharing technology for aircraft carriers and jet engines

You really think US will share their know how on engine? There are only 5 fighter engine makers in the world : 2 are US, one GB, one Russian and one French. Maybe a sixth in the futur (China).
None of them want to give you the keys to developp engine. To give you a production licence, YES, but engineering know how : Never. Because they don't want to create a new competitors. It's one of the 6 or 7 key technology for the futur and to have it all of them invest dozen years of developpment....

Aircraft carrier : US only want to sell you EMALS.

All that buzz around F16 anf F18 is only part of bargaining around Rafale deal.

 

[WolfPack86]

You really think US will share their know how on engine? There are only 5 fighter engine makers in the world : 2 are US, one GB, one Russian and one French. Maybe a sixth in the futur (China).
None of them want to give you the keys to developp engine. To give you a production licence, YES, but engineering know how : Never. Because they don't want to create a new competitors. It's one of the 6 or 7 key technology for the futur and to have it all of them invest dozen years of developpment....

Aircraft carrier : US only want to sell you EMALS.

All that buzz around F16 anf F18 is only part of bargaining around Rafale deal.

We made mistake by selecting Rafale . Actually corrupt Congress leaders and Air force chief selected Rafale. France refused to help India in Kaveri engine development how can we can trust France. In mean time US helping Tejas MK2 engines and AMCA. By the way we are buying only 36 Rafales not 100 of them. F -18 Advance Super Hornet is more cheaper than Rafale. Rafale is 300 million dollar per aircraft is very costly.

 

[BON PLAN]

We made mistake by selecting Rafale . Actually corrupt Congress leaders and Air force chief selected Rafale. France refused to help India in Kaveri engine development how can we can trust France. In mean time US helping Tejas MK2 engines and AMCA. By the way we are buying only 36 Rafales not 100 of them. F -18 Advance Super Hornet is more cheaper than Rafale. Rafale is 300 million dollar per aircraft is very costly.

Corruption? Do your job internally.

We don't help you for Kaveri? 1) or your contract was badly made, and you didn't ask ask the right thing. 2) Or your contract was so badly made you are unable to put Safran in court for non respect of the contract. 3) Or You never answered to Safran proposal. But today there is no court action against Safran.

US help you for Tejas MK2 ? they just sell you some engines, no TOT. And you will never received technological help from US. Or maybe for 60's jet engine tech.

SH18 cheaper? maybe? But far less capable. Just imagine : a 14 tons empty weigh fighter able to carry 8tons when Rafale is 9.5 tons and able to carry 9.5 tons. SH limited to 7.5 or 8G when Rafale is 9G and for few moments 11G (the limit is the pilot). SH has probably a more powerfull radar, but is less stealthy than Rafale.

Rafale NEVER COSTS 300 million $ !!! 300 million $ in the price of a plane + support for 10 years + all the infrastructure/36 (training spheres, tools, tests benchs...). A "dry" Rafale without support and weapon is 90 million $. It has been written dozens of time.
Don't compare a strawberry with cream and biscuits with a sole and poor apple.