DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[Lonewarrior]

I wonder why the old AZP S-60 derived ZIF-72 are at now... might be a good idea to develop a new solution around it.

AU-220 Baikal

 

[arnabmit]

AU-220 Baikal
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Yeah, I was in love with the Kinzhal turret... but Ruskis won't be able to supply anything anytime soon. Plus it needs redesigning.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

When can we expect for user evaluation to complete

Number is 6 and evaluation is probably by end of this year

 

[Blood+]

200 dumb rounds vs 4 to 6 airburst rounds with 150 submunitions each... You do the math.

When it comes to defending against MLRS/ artillery shells/ mortars, I'll take the 200 (more like 50 if the rate of fire is set at 3000 rpm) dumb rounds over 5 smart ones any day of the week.

 

[Sachinananda]

Guys I have after many days and I thought to ask this question but I kept hesitating for folks being sad but
1)what's the status of lch
2)what's the status of luh
3)what's the status of atags clearance
4)what's the status of tc-20
5)when army will procure Garuda 105

 

[flanker99]

Guys I have after many days and I thought to ask this question but I kept hesitating for folks being sad but
1)what's the status of lch
2)what's the status of luh
3)what's the status of atags clearance
4)what's the status of tc-20
5)when army will procure Garuda 105

Lch luh lsp have been ordered bigger order wont come before 2024 and dac has cleared 307 atags but no orders yet for the rest nil info

 

[Sachinananda]

Lch luh lsp have been ordered bigger order wont come before 2024 and dac has cleared 307 atags but no orders yet for the rest nil info

Regarding integration of atgm in dhruv and lch
When will those things occur
Personally think that army won't induct lch until atgm integration

 

[Chinmoy]

Because then they'll need to develop a whole new mount and traverse - elevation mechanism for that, coz there's no existing example of ground mounted GSh-23 they can copy.

 

[Chinmoy]

One of my eternal questions... why isn't GSh-23 mated with EO/FCR for C-RAMU application

Part and parcel of license production.

 

[AnantS]

You can't believe how lazy people here are

It took me hardly 2 minutes to come up with this. Nothing ground breaking, nothing advanced and the whole thing composed of sub-systems we already have with us.
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But the best they did was simply take this whole assembly...
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...and mount it on a truck
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Mate your drawing holds no value unless you come up with details on how you are re -placing humongous feeder mechanism in Kestrel. Even if you managed to redesign the magazine and shell collection module, no way Kestrel shall be able to come up with volume to house it.

 

[Shuturmurg]

 

[Lonewarrior]

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Arre ChaCha, aap phir bhawnaon me beh gayein.
I know there have been modifications to BMPs and BMDs to mount Gsh-23-2. And not just that but even GSh-30 too.

there's no existing example (here in India with them that they can reverse engineer)

When we needed a ship based gun system (CRN-91) we simply pasted the turret of BMP-2 on a ship and when we needed a C-RAM we pasted the whole AK-630 on a truck; this the level of innovation here and you think they can copy an experimental Soviet design just by looking at a grainy picture!?

 

[Chinmoy]

Arre ChaCha, aap phir bhawnaon me beh gayein.
I know there have been modifications to BMPs and BMDs to mount Gsh-23-2. And not just that but even GSh-30 too.

Your original statement..

Because then they'll need to develop a whole new mount and traverse - elevation mechanism for that, coz there's no existing example of ground mounted GSh-23 they can copy.

So the answer is, there exist an example of ground based GSh-23

When we needed a ship based gun system (CRN-91) we simply pasted the turret of BMP-2 on a ship and when we needed a C-RAM we pasted the whole AK-630 on a truck; this the level of innovation here and you think they can copy an experimental Soviet design just by looking at a grainy picture!?

This part I already covered in the relevant querry.

https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/drdo-psu-and-private-defence-sector-news.55/post-2479595

 

[Lonewarrior]

Your original statement..


So the answer is, there exist an example of ground based GSh-23



This part I already covered in the relevant querry.

https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/drdo-psu-and-private-defence-sector-news.55/post-2479595

What if I had added "in India" after existing example in that original message only?
What would have been your response then mate!?

 

[Blood+]

You can't believe how lazy people here are

It took me hardly 2 minutes to come up with this. Nothing ground breaking, nothing advanced and the whole thing composed of sub-systems we already have with us.
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But the best they did was simply take this whole assembly...
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...and mount it on a truck
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Nah, your design is not practicable for the simple reason that there is not enough room in the hulls of any of the existing armored vehicles to house the entire system. A much better solution would be to mount it on a trailer, just like the Americans did with C-RAM.

 

[Blood+]

What if I had added "in India" after existing example in that original message only?
What would have been your response then mate!?

Dude, give up, if you can't tell it already, you are debating with an esteemed member of the "Jay-ho gang" as @COLDHEARTED AVIATOR would say.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Nah, your design is not practicable for the simple reason that there is not enough room in the hulls of any of the existing armored vehicles to house the entire system. A much better solution would be to mount it on a trailer, just like the Americans did with C-RAM.

 

[Chinmoy]

What if I had added "in India" after existing example in that original message only?
What would have been your response then mate!?

Right now I'd say, you should have done it.

But bottom line is, you don't need any product to exist in your home to draw inspiration from. It all depends on intent and capability. We are operating Shilka which is based on same 23 mm caliber. So inspiration does exist. Now it depends on intent of designer whether they want to design one with GSh canon or 2A7.

 

[Lonewarrior]

But bottom line is, you don't need any product to exist in your home to draw inspiration from.

In our case, we need
List just 10 weapons made by us that have absolutely zero inspiration from anything

We are operating Shilka which is based on same 23 mm caliber.

Don't you think there should be some difference between 23×152mmB and 23×115mm

 

[NoobWannaLearn]