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this is classical case business,putting your rival down for your advantage,even DRDO did that,there were few reports AFAIK that DRDO does not want private firms to enter into unmanned combat aerial vehicle R&D on their own,however DRDO makes some good quality stuff while OFB always produces junks.
even for lobbying OFB-okay good,but then produce good quality stuff na?like DRDO does,OFB deserves bad mouthings given to it,
well OFB cant do that. because its a production factory/s not an R&D center. it doesn't have any research labs. so its job is just to manufacture stuff that is given to it.

DRDO similar to ADA(aeronautical development agency).
OFB similar to HAL.
so its technically ADA-tejas not HAL-tejas.

and (part of DRDO) CVRDE-arjun not HVF-arjun . (HVF -heavy vehicles factory- part of OFB)

so all OFB is good for lobbying. nothing else.

that is why mudi and ninda-nath wants to corporatise it into a PSU. and then also privatise some part of it.
:megusta:

that is why OFB chut*yas against it. too bad for them. it will happen soon.
 

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well OFB cant do that. because its a production factory/s not an R&D center. it doesn't have any research labs. so its job is just to manufacture stuff that is given to it.

DRDO similar to ADA(aeronautical development agency).
OFB similar to HAL.
so its technically ADA-tejas not HAL-tejas.

and (part of DRDO) CVRDE-arjun not HVF-arjun . (HVF -heavy vehicles factory- part of OFB)

so all OFB is good for lobbying. nothing else.

that is why mudi and ninda-nath wants to corporatise it into a PSU. and then also privatise some part of it.
:megusta:

that is why OFB chut*yas against it. too bad for them. it will happen soon.
don't compare HAL to OBF though,HAL makes good quality aircrafts than OFB produced junks
 

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well OFB cant do that. because its a production factory/s not an R&D center. it doesn't have any research labs. so its job is just to manufacture stuff that is given to it.

DRDO similar to ADA(aeronautical development agency).
OFB similar to HAL.
so its technically ADA-tejas not HAL-tejas.

and (part of DRDO) CVRDE-arjun not HVF-arjun . (HVF -heavy vehicles factory- part of OFB)

so all OFB is good for lobbying. nothing else.

that is why mudi and ninda-nath wants to corporatise it into a PSU. and then also privatise some part of it.
:megusta:

that is why OFB chut*yas against it. too bad for them. it will happen soon.
HAL does have an R&D branch under it called ARDC. In fact, Druv, LUH, LCH, RUAV along with CATS warrior (partnership with Newspace) are designed by them. They are also working on the development of the regional transport jet along with NAL. It's true and I have nothing more to add, as others have said HAL produces good quality products, all HAL needs to do right now is try increasing aircraft produced per year which can be done. Besides HAL also supplies ISRO with rocket engines, propellant tanks etc.
OFB on the other hand has nothing behind it. INSAS design wasn't that bad. OFB's manufacturing ways led to what it is now. It's corrupt and they know it. That is all the more reason those OFB baboos threaten to go for an indefinite strike whenever 'corporatisation' comes up
No comparison between them at all.
 

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we don't copy others. we don't cheat atleast when it comes to international issues. so you want DRDO and army to do immoral practices.
some life you have.
And that will win us wars ?

And that will save the lives of our countrymen and honour of our women ?

And that will save the lives of our soldiers ?

And that will prevent enemies from capturing our lands ?

What we ? Who we ?
Drdo & army have done & will do what they have to do as long as they can get away with it
 
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Don't think this will work. Once sfdr tech is ready . That missile can easily do the job of awacs hunting at 300+ km away . It will be far more agile than bramhos and will be able to integrate with almost all iaf jets .
300 km won't be a suffecient range to take out AWACS. At 300 km range the launching aircraft will be easily engaged by the fighter escorts of the AWACS. 500 or 600 km range brahmos will be a huge advantage. Plus Brahmos radar will have greater range than that of SFDR missile, hence it will detect AWACS from further away.
 

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don't compare HAL to OBF though,HAL makes good quality aircrafts than OFB produced junks
your are missing my point.
technically HAL and OFB are manufacturing factories. they don't design. they only manufacture.
the designs could be given to OFB by a design consultant. or DRDO or some foreign company.
in all cases its called TOT. but whats different is, when a foreign company is involved with OFB, which is under ministry of defence, its govt to govt deal. govts from both sides will regulate the deal.
 

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And that will win us wars ?

And that will save the lives of our countrymen and honour of our women ?

And that will save the lives of our soldiers ?

And that will prevent enemies from capturing our lands ?

What we ? Who we ?
Drdo & army have done & will do what they have to do as long as they can get away with it

What we ? Who we ?
And that will save the lives of our countrymen and honour of our women ?
what 'our'? who 'our'

you contradict yourself.
 

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HAL does have an R&D branch under it called ARDC. In fact, Druv, LUH, LCH, RUAV along with CATS warrior (partnership with Newspace) are designed by them. They are also working on the development of the regional transport jet along with NAL. It's true and I have nothing more to add, as others have said HAL produces good quality products, all HAL needs to do right now is try increasing aircraft produced per year which can be done. Besides HAL also supplies ISRO with rocket engines, propellant tanks etc.
OFB on the other hand has nothing behind it. INSAS design wasn't that bad. OFB's manufacturing ways led to what it is now. It's corrupt and they know it. That is all the more reason those OFB baboos threaten to go for an indefinite strike whenever 'corporatisation' comes up
No comparison between them at all.
HAL does have an R&D branch under it called ARDC.
HAL was initially started in 1940. and ARDC was established in 1948 and later became into an R & D.

but primarily HAL is a manufacturing company. its similar to OFB in terms of its purpose. but HAL is a PSU corporation. its their choice if they want to pursue R&D. they have autonomy.

while OFB is not a PSU corporation. it will work directly under the orders of MOD. they don't have the freedom to design and make any weapons unless permission given by MOD.
 

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300 km won't be a suffecient range to take out AWACS. At 300 km range the launching aircraft will be easily engaged by the fighter escorts of the AWACS. 500 or 600 km range brahmos will be a huge advantage. Plus Brahmos radar will have greater range than that of SFDR missile, hence it will detect AWACS from further away.
Air to air bramhos will have to be much lighter and smaller its range will be less too.
 

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Guys do you think the HTSE-1200 and HTFE-25 projects of HAL would be successful? Cuz if these 2 projects are successful, it would give us great autonomy in helicopter and trainer engines. Both these projects would be a big stepping stones to developing bigger and more powerful engines in the future?
 

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They will start the process , again, so I don't expect them to conclude the process or arrive at a particular product for another couple of years or may be more.
I thought they may want to rush it as fleet is shrinking
 

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