ICBMs are means of projecting power around the world, not backyard.
How will we project power when we can't even secure our backyard?
What if China builds a military base in Venezuela or Guinea... How do we target that without full range ICBMs?
We don't need to threaten west at least for now. China is bigger threat.
Why China is bigger threat then west?
Because China supports Pak? well west does that too.
Because we fought war against China in 62? well we were almost on verge of nuke war with west in 71.
China doesn't want India to rise. so does west.
Now tell me how China is bigger evil?
We need to be prepared for both west and China.
ICBMs are just ballistic delivery systems mated with re-entry vehicles. The weapon you can put inside them is the challenge, not increasing their range.
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"Global Range" makes it ultimate weapon. Sure we can put Chemical or bio warhead in it but that is another discussion.
India has been trying to develop ICBMs in 70s and failed back then is a fact.
We never failed. Our politicians failed us.
We could do it in 70's and 90's and could do it even today. Its our coward politicians and delusional public still believing in Gnadhi-Nehru ideology.
We are a country who had ICBMs+MTWHs thousands of years ago when white men were living in caves. Today we are afraid of same white men.
Against whom will you deploy it? Which country?
Total 5 are needed for deployment.
London, Washington, Moscow, Berlin, Paris
Just token deployment to tell the world that we are not joking around.
India is neither a police state with dictatorship nor it has any anti western agenda. So, India will never be the top agenda of American international newspapers unlike China.
Because they think unlike China we are weak and unable to attack their mainland. They are not afraid of us. This is why we don't get respect from west. Even NoKo has recently started getting more respect.
To be a superpower we need global range plain and simple. This is why we need A-6.
We are not without delivery systems.
We are without global range weapon.
We are even shifting to new delivery systems like hypersonic weapons.
Hypersonics will be short to medium range. Will be mostly used against ships, military installations, air defense, etc. please don't compare it with mighty global range ICBM.
US can't dare to challenge regimes militarily in countries like Russia, China & India unlike Vietnam, Venezuela, Iraq or Iran. These countries are too big and they can only watch.
Well they can't do it in Russia and China because they are invasion proof. However they can certainly do a regime change in India. I am sure somewhere in pentagon there is a plan to invade India as well. (They have all sorts of crazy plans)
The point is we need to become invasion proof and unless we can build some sort of space nuke dropping weapon system our next best hope is ICBMs.
US couldn't do anything either when China didn't have nukes & ICBM.
US tried to Nuke China back in 50s during Korean war but because of China's friend a nuke power USSR stopped US from doing it. Only after this incident China started developing Nukes and ICBMs.
We had similar incident in 70s but unlike China we didn't learn our lesson.
That's only a diplomatic approach. US hadn't attacked North Korea in around even in 60 years of it's existence when it didn't have nukes & missiles. All because of Russia & China.
Because of Russia and China's ability to destroy mainland USA. Trust me if Russia and China didn't have nuke tipped ICBMs, USA would have finished them a long time ago.
Secondly, Trump's approach is about pulling USA out of conflicts.
As if US president has any say in war.
News flash: US foreign policy is driven by deep state not president.
how much can North Korea produce to hit?
Enough to kill from a few hundred thousand to a few million.
You should keep in mind that west highly values human life of their citizens and their expensive infrastructure. Even a threat to destroy one major city in mainland is enough to send shivers to west.
Any BM can't be turned into orbital launch vehicle, how many times I got to state? Agni-5 can't put more than 50kg in 100kms orbit.
Shaheen 3 can very well be turned into a demo SLV. Agni-5 can also be used as demo SLV but since we have full sized SLVs we don't need BM based SLV demo.
No one will turn a liquid fueled rocket into a missile. India has much bigger solid rocket motors.
You brought it up many times in our discussion. You suggested that ISRO's SLVs can be used as ICBMs.
we got everything except GINSS (Global Indian Navigation Satellite System). It will be our counterpart to GPS, GLONASS, BeiDou-2 and Galileo.
We need this system for ICBM's accuracy via mid-course correction.
This why I said A-6 program will be much more complex.
Every country who has capability and validated it can produce stuff in huge numbers in emergency.
ICBMs can be produced in large number in emergency???
ICBMs and Nukes are tested and deployed during peacetime. If war breaks out against a major power there won't be anything left to build. We are not living in 40's where Hitler was making thousands of subs and planes during WW2. Today's wars are much more lethal and much more swift. A few minutemens and all capabilities GONE.
We don't need to develop a global range one. 60-70% of big ICBM will be enough. Most other countries use same.
Que: Which other nuke capable country doesn't have global range delivery system?
Ans: Pakistan.
Yup we are only 2 nuclear countries without global rage ICBMs/SLBMs.
Sorry but I don't want to see my great country in this pathetic club.
While you think that ICBM is solution to every problem, Soviet economy was sabotaged by USA along with its own stupid red policies.
Just before its collapsed, Soviet was also running around world for bailout what it didn't get. Internal issues wouldn't have arose if economy would have been doing right.
Soviet was world's third largest economy and second largest military force. ICBM was just a small component of military forces.
It was CIA agent Gorbachev who destroyed USSR from within. Otherwise USA had no chance against USSR.
Pakistan can hit any point on India and nearby American military bases.
You want India to stoop at Pakistani level??? What a useless comparison.
We are a great power. We need great weapons. Case closed.
Power projection isn't about military only. Germany is leader of world's largest economic entity.
EU is a body of elected members from all European countries. There are no leaders in EU.
P5 is about influential countries, not winners WW2. Case is different that winners of World war will be left most influential.
Its all about military and it always were that why.
Don't get brainwashed by nonsense western economic prosperity propaganda. Military might is the only might. Rest is time pass.
After shifting alliances in cold war era, they kept on adding friend in alliances. Germany is a part of P5+1 and has everything of them except veto power. Indeed India is more rightful but P5+1 is a reality.
More western propaganda.
Germany is a global power!!!!!
you know economically Japan is better than Germany. Heck even Singapore and S. Korea have better PC GDP compared to Germany. Its only nonsense western white man elitist propaganda to include Germany (another white country) into white man's club.
All western economies are overrated and only reason it is strong because of inflated value of their fake currency which is protected by their military might. Why do you think west wants full control of all oil producing countries? Why does west controls all sea lanes?
Oh you are so naive about western fiat currency based economies.
Power is the ultimate factor of P5 and its base is always economy.
Mark my words: The day western military takes second seat that day western public will be begging BEEKH in Asian countries.
No, NSG deal gave India access to stuff India wanted.
Do we have a seat in NSG?
Do we have unrestricted and unquestioned access to yellow cake?
What did we got from that deal?
Bunch of international observers poking their nose into our reactors.
Power generation is wastage?
Yes it is. In India we have enormous Solar potential. Not to mention abundance of desi coal. There is absolutely no need to use uranium for energy.
We need it for warheads and sub reactors only.
Making warheads of all fissile material and throwing it in reserves to get reduced and expire is actual wastage.
India can produce large number of nukes in conflict when needed.
Do you know how many centrifuges we have and how much time it takes to enrich from our current capacity?
No, We can't produce large number of nukes instantly.
Care to explain your "farsightedness".
Farsightedness is getting ready for future.
