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Same as if Mig-21 of Abhinandan would have been a Kizilelma!

Anyway, it an fighter aircraft which stealthy and not manned. Its job will be initial raids on our airfields and arms depots etc followed by manned fighters. With a manned fighter there is a risk of pilots life.
Very far-fetched & sci-fi prediction. First, we don't even know if this is even stealthy. Turkey itself calls it "low observable" instead of stealthy. Rafale/Tejas also falls under the LO category.

Second, the concept of A2A fighting from limited situational awareness like that available of a drone is untested and unproven. There is a reason even USAF doesn't field unmanned A2A fighters.

Kizilema will be almost as expensive as a light fighter if not more. If Turkey insists on making it LO/Stealth then more. No way it can be used as a "disposable" drone. More like a wingman concept perhaps.
 

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Same as if Mig-21 of Abhinandan would have been a Kizilelma!

Anyway, it an fighter aircraft which stealthy and not manned. Its job will be initial raids on our airfields and arms depots etc followed by manned fighters. With a manned fighter there is a risk of pilots life.
It's subsonic, it's B variant will be barely supersonic the C variant with a Turkish engine will have the capabilities you are talking about here.
And the C variant is atleast a decade away.
But if you want to fight an AtoA battle with a subsonic plane, might as well blow it up with your own hands.

Not to mention the slower reaction time due to communication delay of being controlled from ground will give your opponent the opening it needs to blow up your kizilelma

Will our IAF accept such a 3 staged proposal, Tell me you have not forgotten the Tejas Saga.
 
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From the press conference, the Air Chief said that MTA is being looked as the replacement for Il-76.
The carrying capacities of both are vastly different. What's exactly going on in the IAF's mind ?
 

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The carrying capacities of both are vastly different. What's exactly going on in the IAF's mind ?
Can we see a C 17 production line in India by any chance, Is there even a faint possibility of that.
Maybe we can scrap the MTA and go for C 17 instead

Or What about our very own C 17/ Y 20, maybe we can Collab with the Brazilians and make a C 17 equivalent for the global market,
Let Embraer be the primary designer we will bear half the cost and guaranteed orders in exchange we will get independent IP for the aircraft, maybe we can even sell our AMCA is exchange to the Brazilians.


God, I am rambling. Sorry for that
 
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Interesting!! The article seems to be implying that the make of the jet would be the same as the 6 new AEW&C under consideration. Are we going in for an EMBRAER ERJ-145 for our ISTAR requirements too?
 

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