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Why india is not mandating trucks to have cabin with ability to mount add on armors? Havent we learned anything from Russo Urko war?
 

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Why india is not mandating trucks to have cabin with ability to mount add on armors? Havent we learned anything from Russo Urko war?
> It takes quite a bit for us to realise emerging military doctrines
> Armoured cabins are expensive and we try to cut as much cost as possible
> The process from RFI to fleet wise integration is considerably longer here in India

Otherwise we're already having an armoured cabin but as of now it's just limited to truck mounted howitzers
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Damm so are they waiting for more funds?
NO the technology is suspect. They are overselling when local UAV makers are as good or better.
The greatest difficulty is in enabling a light UAV to land in a rolling pitching heaving deck at Sea State > 0 - and pvt companies have already done that.

So moot point in getting more.
 

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> It takes quite a bit for us to realise emerging military doctrines
> Armoured cabins are expensive and we try to cut as much cost as possible
> The process from RFI to fleet wise integration is considerably longer here in India

Otherwise we're already having an armoured cabin but as of now it's just limited to truck mounted howitzers
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IA's yesteryears attitude of using excess manpower to offset individual soldier protection is going to bite in coming years. Gone are the days where families had two or more sons or even offsprings. People are going to barge and protest for better protection for their loved ones who are facing brunt.

Also I wanted that atleast Cabins should b designed in such way to have ability to add armour later. We are still buying old IVECO derived cabins. in Latest Tata 6x6 and 12x12 HMV I believe the cabin has been designed to carry armour in some limited form.
 

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> It takes quite a bit for us to realise emerging military doctrines
> Armoured cabins are expensive and we try to cut as much cost as possible
> The process from RFI to fleet wise integration is considerably longer here in India

Otherwise we're already having an armoured cabin but as of now it's just limited to truck mounted howitzers
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Just saw this coincidently
 

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NO the technology is suspect. They are overselling when local UAV makers are as good or better.
The greatest difficulty is in enabling a light UAV to land in a rolling pitching heaving deck at Sea State > 0 - and pvt companies have already done that.

So moot point in getting more.
If private companies can take care of the requirements then no need for hal to do it.
 

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Muh...114 gold plated Mrfa will counter PLA.
Total No of AMCA to be produced 200 total Mk2 (likely not possible) to be produced 200 total mk1A to be produced 83.
About 600 aircrafts till 2035 meanwhile PLA we will build better shit than all that before 2028
 

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Arre it's a sarcasm on Cheeni missile, see
TBH, not impossible. You can have an asset forward of the launch platform, that detects the threat. Laucher can launch from safe distance away.
Though not very practical currently, would require near saturation of airspace with radars capable of hard lock.
 

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TBH, not impossible. You can have an asset forward of the launch platform, that detects the threat. Laucher can launch from safe distance away.
Though not very practical currently, would require near saturation of airspace with radars capable of hard lock.
Definitely not impossible, but makes absolutely no sense for an air-to-air missile. As you mentioned, in case of SAM system you can definitely have a giant radar in Delhi well protected with CIWS directing Surface-to-Air batteries as far as Arunachal Pradesh.

But from an air force's point of view it's kind of making a Rube Goldberg's machine where an AWACS detects target, relays it to a fighter some 400km away, then it fires it's missile completely blind with only inertial navigation system, after some 5 minutes the missile arrives near the AWAC at which point it establishes a datalink connection and further guides it down the remaining 200km where after some 150km the missiles seeker would be able to acquire a lock on the target...all given the target was somehow hovering on the same spot for last 5 minutes.

Bolting a pylon or two on an AWACS and adding BVRAAM seems way more logical solution.
 

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Bolting a pylon or two on an AWACS and adding BVRAAM seems way more logical solution.
very true.. have been thinking for ages why it has not been done. My extravagant dream.. Have a AWCS and another transport aircraft loaded with very very air to air missiles (300 - 400 km range)... patrolling together and launching counter attack moment they detect intrusion and green signal from base - causing attacking party to break away from their designated route.. giving our fighters enough time for interdiction - if required.
 

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Muh...114 gold plated Mrfa will counter PLA.
Total No of AMCA to be produced 200 total Mk2 (likely not possible) to be produced 200 total mk1A to be produced 83.
About 600 aircrafts till 2035 meanwhile PLA we will build better shit than all that before 2028
There is this indian airforce game ,in third mission you have to defend your base against a three waves of enemy attacks .
First wave : 2 air superiority jets , 2 fighter bombers .
Second wave : 2 air superiority jets , 2 fighter bombers
Third wave : two air superiority jets
Total attack force : 10 jets .
You have to shoot the bombers first , else they will bomb the fuck out of your base , which apparently has only one jet which you are flying
Also , the reward you get is a shoulder patch which says : always alert and a voicever which says : well done pilot you have stopped a determined enemy attack , we have have given befitting reply to the enemy.
Vs one sukhoi 30 mki ( the player )
The way things for IAF are going , sadly this above scenario will become reality and a single sukhoi won't even survive first wave kek , given that they are not upgraded.
 

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