DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[Narasimh]

The problem is IAF is hell bent on MRFA.

That is for the govt to set right.. Govt should not just rely on IAF to spell out the correct requirements. The DoMA and CDS should create a dedicated dept of Defence procurement empowered enough to make recommendations based on capability requirements for each services. It should include experts, members from the forces to bring out a white paper time to time on the national capability mix required, be agile to global technology shifts and set the vision. I am not hopeful this will ever happen, so Govt will keep on playing dodgeball with IAF.

 

[Narasimh]

Difference b/w HAL and Dassault caused the collapse of MMRCA and due to disagreements with HAL, Dassault choose Ambani

As far as I remember DRAL JV was done for the Offset obligations fulfillment and not so much for joint production of Rafale. With HAL they had disagreements on who will hold the liability in case of failure of HAL produced Rafales. But that was some time ago, Dassault should re-evaluate HAL now. TASL seemed a good pvt option but I doubt they would move to french camp. other players have no exp at all.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

didn't they place an order for tata storme in this category, what happened to that order?

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

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We are not working on anything of this class right?

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

We are not working on anything of this class right?

Nope, no such requirement

 

[Corvus Splendens]

We are not working on anything of this class right?

nup. This is what the Americans are testing. The Ripsaw M5

 

[Eagle Eye]

What other options they have? They have been asking for 126 medium fighter from more than 2 decades

In 2004(MRCA)-10B$, 2013-20B$, 2023-?

Govt suggested direct import in batches(36+36+50lcaMK1A).

 

[Eagle Eye]

In 2004(MRCA)-10B$, 2013-20B$, 2023-?

Govt suggested direct import in batches(36+36+50lcaMK1A).

In 2nd batch,if IAF pressed may hv go with 1 more sq(36+18). Decent nos. 72 or 90 rafale jets.

 

[Fatalis]

In 2004(MRCA)-10B$, 2013-20B$, 2023-?

Govt suggested direct import in batches(36+36+50lcaMK1A).

It is just my thinking that if the program is too costly for the government then they should cancel it upfront by saying the obvious. Why this confusion?

 

[Eagle Eye]

if the program is too costly for the government then they should cancel it upfront by saying the obvious. Why this confusion?

When file comes to CCS. Fin ministry will do scrutiny, object it. Rules...

 

[ezsasa]

It is just my thinking that if the program is too costly for the government then they should cancel it upfront by saying the obvious. Why this confusion?

what ever the number, it will be spread over 10-15 years. but in IAF’s case they have Tejas programme to support and later AMCA, which means annually 1-2 billion $ of capex blocked for aircraft acquisition itself.

IAF also has non-aircraft related capex in terms of infra upgrades, this cost is also on par with aircraft acquisition costs.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

nup. This is what the Americans are testing. The Ripsaw M5
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RIpsaw is much lighter than the other one, and IMO more useful. If you are going to build an expensive 15 ton vehicle, might as well make it 16 tons and put 3 guys in it.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Nope, no such requirement

nup. This is what the Americans are testing. The Ripsaw M5
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If such request ever is made I am sure gridbots can work with drdo and come up with something

 

[Shuturmurg]

If such request ever is made I am sure gridbots can work with drdo and come up with something

Even the American one US army has ordered in limited quantities to do feasibility testing. They might reject after testing if they are not useful enough.
For Eg: US marines/army rejected the boston dynamics robots for now, since they only found there use in special ops scenario, but they were too loud for such ops. In future if they improve, they might consider it.

 

[ezsasa]

nup. This is what the Americans are testing. The Ripsaw M5
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this one got DARPA funding in mid 2000s, and they are still evaluating. there have been considerable improvements since then ofcourse.

 

[SKC]

LSV type something hota to achha rehta...

These are to be used for the official duties. Why would you use LSV for that?

 

[Chinmoy]

We are not working on anything of this class right?

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[johnj]

As far as I remember DRAL JV was done for the Offset obligations fulfillment and not so much for joint production of Rafale. With HAL they had disagreements on who will hold the liability in case of failure of HAL produced Rafales. But that was some time ago, Dassault should re-evaluate HAL now. TASL seemed a good pvt option but I doubt they would move to french camp. other players have no exp at all.

What are you expecting from Offsets ??
Dassault wanted DRAL to assemble Rafale if GoI choose 100 rafale aircraft during that time, not HAL
TASL zero issue with French
Dassault already worked/working with HAL, and now considering Private companies due to quality, and there is no need for reevaluation, if GoI have zero issue with quality then Dassault have zero issue with HAL

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

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Looks decent enough tbh for testing purpose