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[SilentlAssassin265]

Range?

 

[abingdonboy]

If we BUY mq9 which I suppose will definitely happen after recent news we get to keep all data right we don't Have to share any data with usa?

It’s something no one has talked about until now in an official capacity but I’m 100% sure that all of the ground stations will be based in the US like existing Predators/Reapers, this is the RAF’s (British) Reapers:


Controlled from a USAF base near Las Vegas

the existing 2 leased MQ9s are entirely US controlled. Meaning that every mb of data is streamed (via US satellites) to US ground centres. After the gear is retracted they have basically no Indian (in india) in the loop and I’m also pretty sure that the ground crews in india are American contractors from the OEM.

MQ9 is a good system for the IN (the IA/IAF have other options) but one should be aware of what the procurement involves, it is far more than just buying something off the shelf, the US’s end user controls on their supplied equipment are eye watering

 

[NutCracker]

Take this in writing today.

IA would ask for a service ceiling of 50k to 60k feet and they would be offered a -50k feet design.

Hmm Okay. They want RQ-4 tier HALE drone at one go.
While Chinese army will be inducting dozens of WingLoong10 that has below 50k ft service ceiling.
As Parrikar ji said Marvel Comics specifications. We have a very special army.

 

[binayak95]

It’s something no one has talked about until now in an official capacity but I’m 100% sure that all of the ground stations will be based in the US like existing Predators/Reapers, this is the RAF’s (British) Reapers:


Controlled from a USAF base near Las Vegas

the existing 2 leased MQ9s are entirely US controlled. Meaning that every mb of data is streamed (via US satellites) to US ground centres. After the gear is retracted they have basically no Indian (in india) in the loop and I’m also pretty sure that the ground crews in india are American contractors from the OEM.

MQ9 is a good system for the IN (the IA/IAF have other options) but one should be aware of what the procurement involves, it is far more than just buying something off the shelf, the US’s end user controls on their supplied equipment are eye watering

We shall get back to this once the deal is signed, and I have pictures.

No comments right now.

 

[abingdonboy]

We shall get back to this once the deal is signed, and I have pictures.

No comments right now.

Will wait for that then. Would be very happy to be wrong, my assessment is based on precedent

I’m still pretty sure they’ll have to make use of US satellites for NLOS ops

 

[binayak95]

Will wait for that then. Would be very happy to be wrong, my assessment is based on precedent

I’m still pretty sure they’ll have to make use of US satellites for NLOS ops

In present service, they have already made comms with IN ships and establishments using Rukmini, so unless the mission is beyond IOR (which also have happened) using US SATs is not necessary.

 

[abingdonboy]

In present service, they have already made comms with IN ships and establishments using Rukmini, so unless the mission is beyond IOR (which also have happened) using US SATs is not necessary.

Does Rukmini have the capacity/bandwidth to handle >10 of these simultaneously for control and communications 24/7? Seems implausible that they won’t have to piggy back on US mil sats at some point- again I’m more than happy to be proven wrong.

until now all users of US MALE/HALE have bought off the shelf and basically used the existing US infrastructure for them

 

[Bleh]

In terms of protection?
I see many areas uncovered by era plates
Only latest t-72 upgrade by us seems completely protected turret
I noob bro
@Blood+ ji @Bleh ji pls do clarify

I like that T-72/90 hybrid.. the Ajay already had better ERA layout & i frankly doubt that overhauling the whole hull won't add that much protection.
IMO much much more important is to widely make available better situational awareness tech & soft-kill APS from Arjun, and that infra-signature cloak.

 

[binayak95]

Does Rukmini have the capacity/bandwidth to handle >10 of these simultaneously for control and communications 24/7? Seems implausible that they won’t have to piggy back on US mil sats at some point- again I’m more than happy to be proven wrong.

until now all users of US MALE/HALE have bought off the shelf and basically used the existing US infrastructure for them

Rukmini can handle entire PSC fleet and all airborne assets that the IN has at this point. Make what you will of it.

 

[Fatalis]

 

[ezsasa]

fanboys are going to be disappointed when they find out the actual size of this thing, isn't it?
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Vajra drone - A New Era For Defence Systems

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

fanboys are going to be disappointed when they find out the actual size of this thing, isn't it?
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Vajra drone - A New Era For Defence Systems

Small size will actually help it against air defence.
Instead of carrying payload it should be converted to Kamikaze drone

 

[charlie]

It’s something no one has talked about until now in an official capacity but I’m 100% sure that all of the ground stations will be based in the US like existing Predators/Reapers, this is the RAF’s (British) Reapers:


Controlled from a USAF base near Las Vegas

the existing 2 leased MQ9s are entirely US controlled. Meaning that every mb of data is streamed (via US satellites) to US ground centres. After the gear is retracted they have basically no Indian (in india) in the loop and I’m also pretty sure that the ground crews in india are American contractors from the OEM.

MQ9 is a good system for the IN (the IA/IAF have other options) but one should be aware of what the procurement involves, it is far more than just buying something off the shelf, the US’s end user controls on their supplied equipment are eye watering

I don’t know how the contract with India navy is but normally you can download the feed at battlefield SA or a ground centre locally it can get the feed directly off the radio, it doesn’t have to relay all the way to US ground centre in LV( the one that India uses the ground centre might be south of India) and then sent back to India.

I am not sure too vague memory but I read somewhere that the cameras on those are control by Indian ground stations, not sure maybe I am wrong

 

[abingdonboy]

I don’t know how the contract with India navy is but normally you can download the feed at battlefield SA or a ground centre locally it can get the feed directly off the radio, it doesn’t have to relay all the way to US ground centre in LV( the one that India uses the ground centre might be south of India) and then sent back to India.

I am not sure too vague memory but I read somewhere that the cameras on those are control by Indian ground stations, not sure maybe I am wrong

The ground exploitation stations (what they are called in DRDO language) may very well be in India but the controllers are very unlikely to be

 

[charlie]

The ground exploitation stations (what they are called in DRDO language) may very well be in India but the controllers are very unlikely to be

Yes controllers are not in india for sure, neither control by Indians

 

[abingdonboy]

Yes controllers are not in india for sure, neither control by Indians

For the leased ones no. For the ones they buy (if it happens) they’ll have their own crews (likely based in the US imo)

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

fanboys are going to be disappointed when they find out the actual size of this thing, isn't it?
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Vajra drone - A New Era For Defence Systems

I mean they literally presented 1:1 ratio model if people had high expectations of size even after that they are just dumb

 

[Corvus Splendens]

fanboys are going to be disappointed when they find out the actual size of this thing, isn't it?
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Vajra drone - A New Era For Defence Systems

what's the point of a stealthy flying wing then ?

 

[Blademaster]

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what's the point of a stealthy flying wing then ?

That was my first thought and then I realized upon further thought that given the small size of Vajra, that thingy will be very small even smaller than a ball and can be passed off as background noise or a bird.

 

[Gyyan]

Small size will actually help it against air defence.
Instead of carrying payload it should be converted to Kamikaze drone

A stealthy loitering ammunition...we are too rich or what?
It was said in defence expo that it was a 1:1 model of vajra.
Anyway the video is dope.