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[binayak95]

Thanks for clarifying. If you have knowledge on this topic, why didn't IA and IAF start their own R&D cells? Constraint from those times? Something else?




Never ending trials are definitely something, but as @binayak95 wrote out, there are gaps, where the Navy, for being the least funded as it is, has been way better at supporting indigenous efforts than the other services. Just want to understand why exactly there are these deficiencies in these branches.

Primarily because IN was least funded - and thus had no choice but to innovate and do self R&D, while IA and IAF never lacked for funds through to the 90s

 

[DumbPilot]

Primarily because IN was least funded - and thus had no choice but to innovate and do self R&D, while IA and IAF never lacked for funds through to the 90s

Ah, so it's the classic missile development story again. Someone tell the government to put the IAF and IA into poverty now

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

The Bayraktar TB2 seems to be relatively effective even with a payload of only 150 kg. Most modern cruise missiles are more than 1000kg and have warheads alone that are twice or more than the the total payload of the TB2. Anything launched from the Bayraktar must have a very small warhead.

Also if you can do so much with a 10kg warhead then why are warhead in most bombs and missiles more than 100kg. It seems like with modern guidance you can use lighter munition and get them cheaper or with longer range.

Because 8-10kg HEAT is the minimum needed for reliable penetration of heavy tank armour. Most of the 100kg, 1000kg bombs are either anti personnel high explosive or anti ship.

 

[rodeo]

Because 8-10kg HEAT is the minimum needed for reliable penetration of heavy tank armour. Most of the 100kg, 1000kg bombs are either anti personnel high explosive or anti ship.

This is the smart munition TB2 uses against MBTs.

Roketsan - MAM-L Smart Micro Munition

www.roketsan.com.tr

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

This is the smart munition TB2 uses against MBTs.


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Roketsan - MAM-L Smart Micro Munition

www.roketsan.com.tr

And what is the warhead weight? Though missile weight suggests that it will be sufficient.

Still, TB2s will have limited use in a conflict where opponents have a sizeable air defence capability. But should be fine for CI/CT ops IG.

 

[rodeo]

And what is the warhead weight? Though missile weight suggests that it will be sufficient.

8-10 kg, depending on warhead type.

There are smaller and bigger versions of this family, like MAM-C or MAM-T.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

MQ9 is coming for sure, and we have Searchers and Herons in numbers too

If we BUY mq9 which I suppose will definitely happen after recent news we get to keep all data right we don't Have to share any data with usa?

 

[Chinmoy]

Will user again ask Marvel comics tier specs ?

Take this in writing today.

IA would ask for a service ceiling of 50k to 60k feet and they would be offered a -50k feet design.

 

[Chinmoy]

Do you know the ATAGS has a larger chamber than that ATHOS? This allows it to have the range record for a 155/52 gun. There will always be a weight penalty for that.

Yes. And this has been discussed a lot before.

 

[mist_consecutive]

 

[Chinmoy]

FF-2019
They got lsp orders after 3 years only
They will induct in 200
I guess they will come integrated with atgms and won't be toothless for decades
I won't be shocked if they induct them in large nos before us
Par we won't order after lsp as atgms will take 2025 for integration and IA will get an excuse
Not wznt to offend ourselves but a self introspection

A little bit of more introspection.

https://www.flightglobal.com/helico...s-international-market-for-lah/118636.article

https://www.asianmilitaryreview.com...d-to-develop-korean-marine-corps-attack-helo/

 

[jai jaganath]

A little bit of more introspection.

https://www.flightglobal.com/helico...s-international-market-for-lah/118636.article

https://www.asianmilitaryreview.com...d-to-develop-korean-marine-corps-attack-helo/

Oh ok
So it's Airbus heli

 

[jai jaganath]

A little bit of more introspection.

https://www.flightglobal.com/helico...s-international-market-for-lah/118636.article

https://www.asianmilitaryreview.com...d-to-develop-korean-marine-corps-attack-helo/

Deleted my post
I stand corrected

 

[Chinmoy]

Oh ok
So it's Airbus heli

Basically derived from a tried and tested design. Projected project completion date is 2031. So basically they are taking 8 years to develop it, that too with JV.

 

[Chinmoy]

Deleted my post
I stand corrected

There was no need to delete the post.

 

[jai jaganath]

There was no need to delete the post.

I deleted for my unnecessary comments

 

[jai jaganath]

Posting again
Even kai has some project regarding lch

 

[abingdonboy]

Yes. And this has been discussed a lot before.

Then it’s unfair to use the weight criticism against ATAGS wrt to ATHOS

it’s a BS red herring anyway, what infrastructure do they have that can support 15t but can’t support ~18t? The ground pressure of the ATAGS will be less than the single axle 155/52 23L chamber guns anyway and the IA is taking >40t K9 and MBTs right to the front

 

[abingdonboy]

Woah!!! Sir a nine meter barrel ?
What for? How far will these guys go

Explicitly designed as an ER version

Analysis: M1299 155mm 58 caliber tracked self-propelled howitzer Exten

The next generation of US Army tracked self-propelled howitzer is the M1299 based on the M109 series, the new 155mm 58 caliber howitzer was unveiled on the

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[Love Charger]

I deleted for my unnecessary comments

Then how will others know what @Chinmoy. Ji corrected brother.