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[ezsasa]

similar idea, different use case scenario.

Just a thought..

There should be a vertical-launched wheeled-vehicle mounted extended-range of upto 15 km range NAG launcher with atleast 16-24 tubes for anti-personnel , anti-structure and anti-armour role.

Point area defence from incoming land attack & area sanitisation roles.

Target acquisition can be EO.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Put screenshots or copy & quote text too of these tweets to archive on forum.

 

[flanker99]

similar idea, different use case scenario.

Since the range is small im wondering why not a gun with programable ammo which will be cheaper
What would be the pro's of such missiles vs a gun

 

[Tiwariji]

Any more info if any one has then share .

 

[ezsasa]

Since the range is small im wondering why not a gun with programable ammo which will be cheaper
What would be the pro's of such missiles vs a gun

CIWS type systems are too bulky and sends massive amount of ammo to hit one target, and then there is line of sight restriction in a gun(even radar RF travels in a straight line) and the parabolic curve of the ammo round.

missiles on the other hand, can operate beyond line of sight. if we add loitering munitions to the mix, even more flexibility in the hands of the CO.

 

[Sonic Wasp]

CIWS type systems are too bulky and sends massive amount of ammo to hit one target, and then there is line of sight restriction in a gun(even radar RF travels in a straight line) and the parabolic curve of the ammo round.

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missiles on the other hand, can operate beyond line of sight. if we add loitering munitions to the mix, even more flexibility in the hands of the CO.

also multiple target at once can be engaged by one single system

 

[Akula]

76 SRGM 15 in quantity.

Hmm, I can only think of following distributions:
07 for P-17A
02 for P-15B (D68, D69)
02 for P-15 (D60, D62)
02 for P-11356 Batch 1(F40, F44)

Rest 02 I am not able to think where they will go. Probably on P-16A.

Rest 2 may be for training purpose.

 

[NeXoft007]

76 SRGM 15 in quantity.

Hmm, I can only think of following distributions:
07 for P-17A
02 for P-15B (D68, D69)
02 for P-15 (D60, D62)
02 for P-11356 Batch 1(F40, F44)

Rest 02 I am not able to think where they will go. Probably on P-16A.

NGMVs

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

CIWS type systems are too bulky and sends massive amount of ammo to hit one target, and then there is line of sight restriction in a gun(even radar RF travels in a straight line) and the parabolic curve of the ammo round.

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missiles on the other hand, can operate beyond line of sight. if we add loitering munitions to the mix, even more flexibility in the hands of the CO.

even more than that, missiles can be reoriented if target does agressive maneuvers and can chase the target down. With guns you point in a direction and shoot, no adjustment possible. If opponent too fast or too nimble you just try to get lucky with volume but no guarantees.

 

[flanker99]

even more than that, missiles can be reoriented if target does agressive maneuvers and can chase the target down. With guns you point in a direction and shoot, no adjustment possible. If opponent too fast or too nimble you just try to get lucky with volume but no guarantees.

A missile of just 2.5 kg will have very limited maneuverability..not that drones are super maneuverable but due to short ranges and limited times trajectory corrections will be questionable.
Id focus more on reaction time and cost of missile and maybe make them air burst capable

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

A missile of just 2.5 kg will have very limited maneuverability..not that drones are super maneuverable but due to short ranges and limited times trajectory corrections will be questionable.
Id focus more on reaction time and cost of missile and maybe make them air burst capable

More maneuvarable than a bullet
And short range, so weight is not so surprising.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Since the range is small im wondering why not a gun with programable ammo which will be cheaper
What would be the pro's of such missiles vs a gun

The key is swarm targeting, you can't do that effectively with a gun system.

 

[Fatalis]

NGMVs

For the rest 2 SRGM or the distribution will change from what I mentioned?

Do you know when will they sign the contract for the NGMV?

I am not able to find any new information related to NGMV. BTW, I recently read HSL started procuring steel for first 02 FSS.

 

[Photon]

 

[STORE]

 

[binayak95]

Can u tell me what these smart ammunitions are?

Nothing new. Proximity Fuzing 40mm Bofors have been a thing since WWII (really) and you are right about a single barrel not being enough. In a saturation attack that barrel will overheat and melt.

This is from WWII. Bofors L60 USN mount.

and this is the British QF 2 pounder 40mm in an EIGHT gun mount.

Remember even these were not enough. USN cruisers and destroyers would have many quad and double 40mm mounts, all around the ship, supported by Oerlikon 20mm guns in similar numbers. EVEN then kamakaze attacks got through and knocked out capital ships. CAPITAL ships, defended by many other ships, and long range DP 5inch guns.


So, yeah - one measly 40mm gun aided by modern FCR aint gonna cut it.

I dont know why know one has brough back these behemoths - with modern electronics they will be terror on the battlefield.

 

[binayak95]

76 SRGM 15 in quantity.

Hmm, I can only think of following distributions:
07 for P-17A
02 for P-15B (D68, D69)
02 for P-15 (D60, D62)
02 for P-11356 Batch 1(F40, F44)

Rest 02 I am not able to think where they will go. Probably on P-16A.

One will always go to INS Dronacharya the gunnery school

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Does any Indian companies make ones with this range?

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Does any Indian companies make ones with this range?

Probably Delilah class munition

 

[Arpuster]

Does any Indian companies make ones with this range?

Probably CATS hunter which is being developed by Newspace