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It's about Arjun Mk1A having a major vulnerability, the major Foriegn maals not having it and you for some reason are trying to say "But Foriegn maal have this vulnerability too!" When they don't.

I will repeat again, case of Armata and Arjun are completely different. Gunner sight in Mk1A is a vulnerability as it directly risks the lives of our crewmen, in Armata it isn't.
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Arjun Mk1 and MK1a are exactly what IA has asked for. None on this earth can defend IA how hard they sabotaged Arjun. If there is any weakness in Arjun that weakness was in fact demanded by IA.
 

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Kaha se laate ho ye knowledge bhai?
Arjun Mk1 and MK1a are exactly what IA has asked for. None on this earth can defend IA how hard they sabotaged Arjun. If there is any weakness in Arjun that weakness was in fact demanded by IA.
Ya'll Nibbiars whatever ever argument we keep forward many of the memebers here are brainwashed by the dalals MSM. And no point in arguing with them. As the limitations are only for the Mark 1A and when it come to the other tanks seen and totally demean the MK 1A.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars whatever ever argument we keep forward many of the memebers here are brainwashed by the dalals MSM. And no point in arguing with them. As the limitations are only for the Mark 1A and when it come to the other tanks seen and totally demean the MK 1A.
arrey arjun mbt sight ka protection ka debate wapis shuru hogaya..... Kuch mahiney pehley hi youtube pey red effect vs alpha defence bhi isi pey debate kar raha tha. in the end both of them came together made the following video.... Hope you enjoy
 

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arrey arjun mbt sight ka protection ka debate wapis shuru hogaya..... Kuch mahiney pehley hi youtube pey red effect vs alpha defence bhi isi pey debate kar raha tha. in the end both of them came together made the following video.... Hope you enjoy
Ya'll Nibbiars thats what I was talking about to read about this in the Mk1A therad. But water all laziness killed their argumenst.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars probably by that time theirs GL 5 APS would be active but it's exact capabilities are still uknown.
Yes, APS installed on tanks are meant to stop such attacks by projectiles (cannot stop saturation attacks). Except for some drones, most Chinese weapons have not been tested in actual battles. So how good will the Chinese APS be is an question that does not have an answer. Compared to Israeli APS like the Trophy which has been tested in the Middle East and proven to work.

Hope some work is being done on developing an Indian APS for our tanks.

Still I feel that there is no need to feel scared about the supposed armour superiority of the Type 99.We just need to find the right technological solution to exploit the weak points on the Type 99.

Since the US now openly acknowledges that China is a short, medium and long term threat, what will be the chances of them collaborating with India on the latest APFSDS round technology. Can DRDO work with the equivalent US organisation to bring the technology to India.

Anyway we should continue our own research into developing better APFSDS rounds.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars

The FICV

can't fire a DEW.

Can't carry 11 troops.

Can't defend itself.

Can't take a city on it's own.

Can't be amphibious.

Can't climb a mountain.

Can't have enough fire power as a Tank.

And with addition of a APS and modular extre armkur will be over weight.

Rejected.

MOD's.
Yes after 15 years trial...
 

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Kaha se laate ho ye knowledge bhai?
Arjun Mk1 and MK1a are exactly what IA has asked for. None on this earth can defend IA how hard they sabotaged Arjun. If there is any weakness in Arjun that weakness was in fact demanded by IA.
Aap ye ulte comparison kaha se late ho? I am talking about vulnerability of Arjun and our near future needs and you are talking about Army and their attempts to sabotage.

Theekhe Bhai, Arjun MK1A strongest tank in the world, haath jodh ke baith jao aur cancel kardo FMBT .
 

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arrey arjun mbt sight ka protection ka debate wapis shuru hogaya..... Kuch mahiney pehley hi youtube pey red effect vs alpha defence bhi isi pey debate kar raha tha. in the end both of them came together made the following video.... Hope you enjoy
Thank you . Very informative video. But even Alpha defense agrees that it indeed is a weak spot of arjun. There is a steel block behind it , so it's not completely useless, but still there is no reason that the sight should not be shifted upwards like in the subsequent Leopard tanks, thus increasing the safety of the main frontal armour sufficiently.
 

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Aap ye ulte comparison kaha se late ho? I am talking about vulnerability of Arjun and our near future needs and you are talking about Army and their attempts to sabotage.

Theekhe Bhai, Arjun MK1A strongest tank in the world, haath jodh ke baith jao aur cancel kardo FMBT .
First you need to understand DRDO product are often representative of how United Nation armed forces think. Arjun is a saga of IA inability to give proper requirement or giving misplaced requirements.

Every tank on this world is based on their military requirement. For example; Markava was built with allmost zero protection from below and back along with turtle cross country speed ( around 20km/h ).

IA yet to give it requirment for FMBT what they only know just import with zero credibility.
 

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Arjun's gun is somehow lacking compared to the Chinese. But we can develop a new smoothbore gun to overcome it with unitary rounds. Arjun offers good protection against apfsds rounds. If we are going to make uranium based apfsds then we need not to worry about Chinese tanks. It will penetrate them. But the problem is we haven't invested in uranium based apfsds till now
 

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First you need to understand DRDO product are often representative of how United Nation armed forces think. Arjun is a saga of IA inability to give proper requirement or giving misplaced requirements.

Every tank on this world is based on their military requirement. For example; Markava was built with allmost zero protection from below and back along with turtle cross country speed ( around 20km/h ).

IA yet to give it requirment for FMBT what they only know just import with zero credibility.
Only in India you will find Armed Forces sabotaging Indigenous products.
 

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Sir itna kuch test ho raha hai
Lekin kuch order hi nahi mil raha hai
Needless to say orders will come after testing subject to budget constraints. since the backlog of two decades is being cleared now, there will be minor adjustments to schedules.

for technology intensive systems, delayed purchase is a not bad thing. it gives us a chance to be on par or near par with current global trends.
 

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