Civil war in Ukraine

[bhramos]

The bridge was blow up by separatists

 

[bhramos]

Oh, we trust you BBC. Don't worry, we know you are most authentic and impartial media along with CNN, Fox available in the world. We also know how impartial UN is, or the Amnesty International is! We also believe in Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny!

ya was correct a Russian Nazi fighting against Ukrainians

 

[bhramos]

"Zalizjaka"-piece of iron, scratch made armored car based on the chassis KAMAZ

 

[Akim]

@Akim and everybody else posting images containing information, please post a link to the source of the image.

I give a summary. Altered map to understand English. You know Ukrainian? If not, then links to the video of the briefing the press center of ATO want to give.
Опубликована актуальная карта зоны АТО на 11 июля | Обозреватель

 

[apple]

Okay, Indians think that Russians can't do no wrong. .

Ei kaikki, vaan tämän foorumin nuori "siistit kundit". Although, there were plenty of Marxists in Indian back in the day and the government's relations with the Soviet Union made Finland look like a beacon of economic liberalism and right wing nationalism.

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Oh, we trust you BBC. Don't worry, we know you are most authentic and impartial media along with CNN, Fox available in the world. We also know how impartial UN is, or the Amnesty International is! We also believe in Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny!

Have always been surprised by the comments here about BBC. Away from this forum, the only complaints I've heard about the BBC are that they are Champagne Socialists i.e. very left wing and obsessed with the "downtrodden". A lot of people here seem to consider the BBC some ultra nationalist organisation and a mouthpiece for the conservative party.

Even then, I was surprised to see you link with Fox new with CNN and the BBC.

You, Jackprince, mentioned Syria in a later post and think that's a very good example of the western media in modern times.

There' s been a couple of generations of young adults, in the West, who have never owned a TV or bought a newspaper. Even compared to 10 years ago, the media have massively lost, I think the business term is, market penetration.

Judging by CNN, BBC, Le Monde, etc... the Arab Spring was humanity's greatest achievement. But, to the majority that still watch TV i.e. the elderly and the unemployed, they didn't care so much.

The Western media was really trying to force military action upon Assad and some of the older politicians, who aren't in touch with the people and think the media still matters, i.e. H.Clinton went along with them.

Ironically, I'd say that, at present, in the west politicians are more believable than the media and are, most definitely, a better indication of the opinions of the public.

As to the Ukraine, I think Syria was a watershed moment and even the stupidier politicians will be, from now on, largely ignoring the media and its crusades. Also, after backing ISIS (good jobs there morons) suspect the western media will be a bit cautious about being too pro anyside of this conflict. Actually, unless uniformed Russian troops cross the border, suspect this conflict will recieve little coverage

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Whatever

Seriously kid, grow up.

 

[bhramos]

Explosion in Donetsk

 

[pmaitra]

BBC News - Ukraine: Report exposes 'stomach-turning' violence

Russian neo-nazi who is fighting against Ukrainian army.

Source is the British Brainwashing Corporation, aka BBC. That should automatically go into the "pending verification" category.

You are free to quote from any source.

I think one of our members (was that @happy?) has already proven how the west used film producers to film that advertisement about a girl saying "I am Ukrainian." I wonder if one day it will emerge that this photo was shot by a modeling agency somewhere in east London.

[HR][/HR]
So, someone made the comment below after the Kiev regime's forces killed many civilians in the airstrike.

and famous Su-25 attack - exatly whit cold war tactis (flare lunched, angle of the attac, direction, etc) -goot trained pilot.

What does he have to say now, after the pro-Russia militia killed these combatants?

Ukrainian column completely wiped out by rebel rocket artillery (Grad)

The village Zelenopole Donetsk region on July 11 2014 morning more than 30 soldiers were killed by artillery strike from terrorists "Grad". This was said at the briefing by Adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs Shkiryak Zorian, the correspondent of RBC-Ukraine.
В Зеленополье Донецкой обл. утром погибло более 30 военных, - МВД | Конфликт с Россией | РБК-Украина

 

[pmaitra]

@Akim and everybody else posting images containing information, please post a link to the source of the image.

The source is Slovo i Dilo.

Click the link, and in the panel to the right, notice Andryii Paribyi, and Arsen Avakov.

 

[pmaitra]

♥ Love Story amidst Civil War ♥

[SOURCE]

Guns and Roses: Groom Arsen Pavlov, Donetsk People's Republic platoon commander, and bride Elena Kolenkina exchange rings during their wedding ceremony in the city of Donetsk

Pavlov, who goes by the call sign Motorola, dressed in battle fatigues and sported a broken arm in a sling for his wedding ceremony

Separatist leader Pavel Gubarev, left, the self-proclaimed governor of Donetsk lays out a piece of cloth at the ceremony which took place in the beleaguered town's registry office

Platoon commander Arsene Pavlov, and his bride Elena arrive at their wedding ceremony in Donetsk

Fierce fighting was reported at the city's airport today just a few miles from where the wedding ceremony was held

A pro-Russian platoon commander kisses his bride at their wedding ceremony in the flashpoint city of Donetsk today where just a few kilometres away 19 government soldiers were killed in a rocket attack.

Arsen Pavlov, who goes by the call sign Motorola, dressed in battle fatigues and sported a broken arm in a sling to wed sweetheart Elena Kolenkina in the eastern Ukraine city, currently at the centre of the the country's bloody civil war.

Snipers kept watch through windows of the town's registry office while guests included several high-ranking separatist leaders including the self-proclaimed Governor of Donetsk, Pavel Gubarev.

How did love blossom?

What I remember reading LifeNews, which seems to be down now, is:

Yelena was slightly injured when Kiev forces were shelling, and Pavel helped to safety. He was injured in that episode. He also got her number at that point.

He called her the next day about her condition.

They stayed in touch.

Now, they got married.

 

[pmaitra]

@Akim, @Cadian, were these Kiev forces who were killed today, from Lvov?

 

[pmaitra]

ya was correct a Russian Nazi fighting against Ukrainians

If this is true, then it is a shame. The pro-Russia militia should keep such people out of their ranks.

On the other hand, I think Victoria Nuland should bake some cookies for him, and Arsenic Yatsenyuk, who loves to quote from Mein Kampf, should kiss his feet.

Same guy?

Nona

 

[pmaitra]

DPR forces in Donetsk. Convoy:

The last BTR in the video sports a South Ossetian flag.

 

[pmaitra]

If you're wondering what happened to Babay - he's fine!
He left with the rest of the resistance and is alive and well in Donetsk.

Update taken from:
Wall

This is Alexander Mozhayev. He is a Cossack from the Rostov region of Russia. He is wanted by Russian law enforcement for some minor crime. He ran away, came to Ukraine, and became a rebel. He has a wife and a child in Russia.

 

[pmaitra]

Oleg Tsarev: "We didn't want to break away from Ukraine in the first place, but that changed when people began to die."

 

[pmaitra]

♥ Love Story amidst Civil War ♥

[SOURCE]

Guns and Roses: Groom Arsen Pavlov, Donetsk People's Republic platoon commander, and bride Elena Kolenkina exchange rings during their wedding ceremony in the city of Donetsk

Pavlov, who goes by the call sign Motorola, dressed in battle fatigues and sported a broken arm in a sling for his wedding ceremony

Separatist leader Pavel Gubarev, left, the self-proclaimed governor of Donetsk lays out a piece of cloth at the ceremony which took place in the beleaguered town's registry office

Platoon commander Arsene Pavlov, and his bride Elena arrive at their wedding ceremony in Donetsk

Fierce fighting was reported at the city's airport today just a few miles from where the wedding ceremony was held



How did love blossom?

What I remember reading LifeNews, which seems to be down now, is:

Yelena was slightly injured when Kiev forces were shelling, and Pavel helped to safety. He was injured in that episode. He also got her number at that point.

He called her the next day about her condition.

They stayed in touch.

Now, they got married.

Motorola met with the bride, saving her after injury
Моторола познакомился с невестой, спасая ее после ранения - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a19av7nWRx0

 

[pmaitra]

"Vostok" battalion conducted reconnaissance in the vicinity of the airport Donetsk (see recoil-less rifle at 1:45)
Батальон "Восток" провел разведку боем в районе аэропорта Донецка - YouTube

Bolotov: Natsgvardiya bear heavy losses in Lugansk airport
Болотов: Нацгвардия несет большие потери в аэропорту Луганска - YouTube

 

[pmaitra]

Ukrainian contractor: For refusing to fight, I was threatened with jail

Motorized infantry platoon commander, captured by the militia, told about the methods of maintaining morale in the Ukrainian Donbass in parts.

20-year-old grenadier Yevgeny Gunko serving in the Ukrainian army under the contract, during the interrogation by the militia in Lugansk, admitted that part of the command threatened to put him in jail if he refuses to fight.

There were 24 people in the platoon, 1 squad commanding officer,grenadier - added Yevgeny Gunko. - In the inventory of heavy equipment we only infantry fighting vehicles - three pieces. There Kalashnikovs, machine guns and grenade-launder that did not work.

In a platoon, there is listed a sniper, but, according to a contractor, it means he is nominally in armed clashes and is not involved, and serves as a driver.

 

[pmaitra]

Militiamen shot down a Mi-24 of the Air Force of Ukraine near the city of Snezhnim

 

[happy]

Seriously kid, grow up.

Oh well, I need to grow up and say "Yes Sir !!" to all your bs ?? Is that the best explanation you can throw at me ?? Come up with something better, KID !!

 

[pmaitra]

Russian border guards told about the fire from the territory of Ukraine

Around 15:30, the outfit consisting of three guards were assigned patrol from the village to the site Grigorovka dislocation. During the patrol, the car with the border guards came under fire from unknown persons, who fired from the Ukrainian side of the border ... In response was used weapons. Car came under fire - said the FSB Border Service Officer Oleg. According to him, in the vehicle suffered multiple hits from bullets of 5.45 and 7.62 millimeters.