Civil war in Ukraine

[Akim]

The Russian military was never deployed in Donbas. We used tens of thousands of terrorists exported to Donbas to do the job. These bad men were terrorists who kidnapped, tortured, murdered when they were back in Russia. Watch this.

Yes, there are only 8 thousand Russian soldiers and+ 40 thousands of militants of LNR/DNR. When they can not cope with the tasks, the Russian army comes to the rescue. According to the Russian tradition, the task is executed at the cost of hundreds of lives. Бабы рожать не разучились.

 

[pmaitra]

The Russian military was never deployed in Donbas. We used tens of thousands of terrorists exported to Donbas to do the job. These bad men were terrorists who kidnapped, tortured, murdered when they were back in Russia.

Volunteers from Russia. They are hardly terrorists. The guy in the video above (3:45) is the same guy in the video below (0:45):


There is one recorded instance, Alexander Mozhayev, a Cossack, who was wanted in Russia for some crime, but he fled to Crimea, and then to Donbass, to fight against the Kiev regime forces.

Alexander Mozhayev

 

[soldier of Putin]

Yes, there are only 8 thousand Russian soldiers and+ 40 thousands of militants of LNR/DNR. When they can not cope with the tasks, the Russian army comes to the rescue. According to the Russian tradition, the task is executed at the cost of hundreds of lives. Бабы рожать не разучились.

Maybe. I don't have the exact intel. Usually, the first thing you see are planes bombing the crap out of your positions before you see any Russian ground soldiers. There could be exceptions. Not denying that.

 

[soldier of Putin]

Volunteers from Russia. They are hardly terrorists. The guy in the video above (3:45) is the same guy in the video below (0:45):


There is one recorded instance, Alexander Mozhayev, a Cossack, who was wanted in Russia for some crime, but he fled to Crimea, and then to Donbass, to fight against the Kiev regime forces.

They are all terrorists. Ukraine is a sovereign country. The invaders are terrorists exported by Russia. I insist. Russia is the world's biggest exporter of terrorism. :biggrin2:

 

[soldier of Putin]

A couple of Russian soldiers trained a whole class of terrorists.

 

[soldier of Putin]

Poroshenko cancelled local elections in Donbas. Too dangerous.

http://www.voanews.com/content/ukraine-cancels-upcoming-local-polls-near-combat-zone/2938552.html

 

[Akim]

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[pmaitra]

Na Donbass? ))))))))))

Soon it will be na Kiev, and then na Lvov. )))))))))))))

 

[Akim]

Na Donbass? ))))))))))

Soon it will be na Kiev, and then na Lvov. )))))))))))))

Yes, Yes, Yes))))
Yes-to capture 1/3 of Donbass, Russia from all over the country pulled together an elite units.

 

[pmaitra]

Crimea to Unveil Statue of Empress Who Added It to Russia
Crimea became part of Russia in 1783 during the reign of Empress Catherine the Great

(TASS - Russian news agency) | Russia Insider

Born Sophie Friederike Auguste von Anhalt-Zerbst-Dornburg

MASSANDRA (Crimea), August 28 (TASS) - A new monument to Empress Catherine the Great who made Crimea part of Russia in 1783 will be unveiled in Simferopol, the peninsula’s capital, next year, the head of the Russian Unity public organization told TASS on Friday.

“The first monument was unveiled in Simferopol in 1890,” Yelena Aksenova said. “However, it was completely destroyed in 1919, after the [Bolshevik] revolution.”

The new statue may cost between 60 million and 120 million rubles (some $895,000 and $1.8 million), she said, adding that 40 million rubles ($597,000) had already been collected.

Aksenova presented the statue’s project to Prince Dimitri Romanov, the oldest relative of last Russian Emperor Nicholas II.

The 89-year old prince who visited Crimea with his wife Dorrit supported the idea.

“Catherine II played a great role in Crimea’s development. The peninsula became part of Russia during her rule,” he said.

Catherine the Great ruled in 1762-1796 and her reign is considered Russia's golden age.
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History lessons for @Akim and @jouni.

Confirmed: Yelena Aksyonova is the wife of Sergey Aksyonov.

Pranab Mukherjee (Indian President), Vladimir Putin (Russian President), Narendra Modi (Prime Minister of India; partially hidden behind Putin), and Sergey Aksyonov (Prime Minister of Crimea), meeting in India.

 

[Akim]

Russia is once again officially the Empire? @pmaitra not talk nonsense. Now is not the 18th century. Remember what was India in the 18th century.

 

[pmaitra]

Russia is once again officially the Empire? @pmaitra not talk nonsense. Now is not the 18th century. Remember what was India in the 18th century.

Why 18th century? India has a glorius past. Mauryan Empire, long before, and for your perusal, here is the link.

 

[Akim]

Why 18th century? India has a glorius past. Mauryan Empire, long before, and for your perusal, here is the link.

Before Crimea was not inhabited? There was the state.Crimea was captured. This is the norm for any Empire.

 

[pmaitra]

Before Crimea was not inhabited? There was the state.Crimea was captured. This is the norm for any Empire.

Crimea was inhabited by Greeks, and later captured by Tatars, whose capital was Bagchi-Sarai (palace or house with a garden). We have place in India called Mughal-Sarai (palace or house of Mughals) and another place Lal-Bag (red garden).

Anyway, here is the point.

Nothing wrong with an Empire that is kind to its citizens.

• Indians ruled by the British Empire was wrong.
• Indians ruled by an Indian Empire like the Mauryan Empire was good.
• Russians ruled by a Russian Empire, one that benefits the citizens, is also good.

BTW, the emblem of modern India is borrowed from the Mauryan Empire.

Ancient Mauryan Lion Capital in a museum at Sarnath

Lion Capital on an Indian coin

A new Russian Empire would be Russia + ByeloRussia + MaloRussia + Kazakhstan, with federalization, and autonomy for regions. Ukrainians are Russians. What is wrong with Russians ruled by Russians?

You need to overcome your anti-Russia hate and paranoia.

 

[Akim]

A new Russian Empire would be Russia + ByeloRussia + MaloRussia + Kazakhstan, with federalization, and autonomy for regions. Ukrainians are Russians. What is wrong with Russians ruled by Russians?

You need to overcome your anti-Russia hate and paranoia.

You want to bring back the British Empire?

By your logic: if one is on the right.When was Kiev on the territory where Moscow was the frogs croaked. You think why in the capital of Russia want to put a monument to Vladimir the Great?

 

[pmaitra]

You want to bring back the British Empire?

By your logic: if one is on the right.When was Kiev on the territory where Moscow was the frogs croaked. You think why in the capital of Russia want to put a monument to Vladimir the Great?

Here is my answer:

Nothing wrong with an Empire that is kind to its citizens.

• Indians ruled by the British Empire was wrong.
• Indians ruled by an Indian Empire like the Mauryan Empire was good.
• Russians ruled by a Russian Empire, one that benefits the citizens, is also good.

Read, @Akim, read.

BTW, you talk about people who lived in Crimea before Tsarina Katherine.

Will you give Crimea away to Turkey or Greece? No. You want it for yourself. )))))

 

[Akim]

Here is my answer:


Read, @Akim, read.

BTW, you talk about people who lived in Crimea before Tsarina Katherine.

Will you give Crimea away to Turkey or Greece? No. You want it for yourself. )))))

There still lived the Italians, the Armenians. They were kicked out of the Ottoman Empire. You don't know the history of my country. i also not fit in the historical wilds of your country. There are post-Postdam world and no one can single-handedly break.

 

[jouni]

Why 18th century? India has a glorius past. Mauryan Empire, long before, and for your perusal, here is the link.

Compared to Kvenland, India was almost the same size. You Indians should be proud, that Queen who was your ruler for centuries got her name from Kvens who married their royalty to Britain. At 9th century Charles
the Great and King of Kvenland were the rulers of Europe. I think Finland has the right to claim back old lands if borders of Europe are redrawn.

Queen=Kven=Finn

 

[soldier of Putin]

Yes, Yes, Yes))))
Yes-to capture 1/3 of Donbass, Russia from all over the country pulled together an elite units.

BS. If we use our air power, we can flatten Kiev let alone take the entire Donbas. Hey, we have 2 of your capitals. After more than 4 years of war, Syrian rebels have 2 of Syria's capitals.

 

[arpakola]

Compared to Kvenland, India was almost the same size. You Indians should be proud, that Queen who was your ruler for centuries got her name from Kvens who married their royalty to Britain. At 9th century Charles
the Great and King of Kvenland were the rulers of Europe. I think Finland has the right to claim back old lands if borders of Europe are redrawn.

Queen=Kven=Finn

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/china/T4HF378IRM6GDJKR5
Are the Finns the Mongolians of Europe?

http://duxuezhong.blogspot.gr/2014/09/are-finns-mongolians-of-europe.html
actually ... yes..