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I am sure you will not be able to convince many of the people from eastern Ukraine, and you should be worried.
Who? The Buryats and Chechens with Georgian Givi, Russian citizen a bigamist Motorola?
 

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Who? The Buryats and Chechens with Georgian Givi, Russian citizen a bigamist Motorola?
Givi is not Georgian. Givi's grandfather is Georgian. Givi was born in Illovayisk. Remember Illovayisk?

Motorola was born in Komi, agreed, but he was living in Kharkov before the Maidan monkeys started jumping.

Chechens? They are part of the International Volunteers.

Ukraine is an artificial state where most of the land is Russian, with arguably Lvov being Polksa land. So, anyone (Chechens, Irkustsk, Buryat, Yakuts, Kalmyks, Mari, Abkhaz, Ossetians) from Russia can feel at home in Ukraine.
 

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Ukraine is an artificial state where most of the land is Russian, with arguably Lvov being Polksa land. So, anyone (Chechens, Irkustsk, Buryat, Yakuts, Kalmyks, Mari, Abkhaz, Ossetians) from Russia can feel at home in Ukraine.
You're so stupid! India was also part of the Empire. In modern history it is an independent state.
 

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You're so stupid! India was also part of the Empire. In modern history it is an independent state.
Yeah, but most Indians feel that Pakistan is an artificial state, and the Pakistanis, despite being ethnically Indian, pretend like they are Arabs.

Similarly, Ukraine is an artificial state, and the Ukrop people, despite being ethnically Russian, and Slavic, pretend they are some Nazi-Ãœbermenchen and superior to the Russians, who are also Slavic.

This is a manifestation of having a tiny brain.
 

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CNN actually published something about Ukraine's troll army

Ukraine recruits Internet army to fight Russian trolls

Ukraine is recruiting Internet soldiers to fight Russian trolls.

The government says it needs to combat propaganda spreading from Russia. It has created special information forces and launched a website for volunteers.

"Many fronts have opened against us, and one of the crucial ones is the information front," said Ukraine's information minister Yuri Stec.

Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine last year, and has been hit with Western sanctions for supporting armed separatists in eastern Ukraine.

"Now is the time to fight back against the Russian invaders on the information front," Stec said.

Anyone can join the virtual army through the website set up by the ministry. Enlisted "soldiers" then receive emails with tasks such as monitoring social media and taking on trolls by promoting Ukraine's messages in online discussions.

They remain anonymous and are reportedly encouraged to create fake accounts to protect their identities.

Ukraine recruits Internet army to fight Russian trolls - Feb. 25, 2015
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxukRFUfcr8

Important bits of information in the video:

CountryMinimum Wage
Bangladesh, Ghana, Zambia
$46.60​
Lesotho, Gambia, Chad
$51.50​
Ukraine
$41.00​

Typical inane questions that I expect from @Akim:
  • Have you been to Bangladesh?
  • Have you been to Ghana?
  • Have you been to Zambia?
  • Have you been to Lesotho?
  • Have you been to Gambia?
  • Have you been to Chad?
I have only one answer for him, and that is, "Героям Слава!" ("Glorious [retarded Ukrainian] heroes!")

Location of Ukrainian Internet Troll Factory: San Francisco, California (IP: 104.18.60.166).
 
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Ukraine needs a cyber-army to fight Russian propaganda,the level of bsing,is so high in the east,that they must act.
 

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Ukraine needs a cyber-army to fight Russian propaganda,the level of bsing,is so high in the east,that they must act.
The Kiev thugs need to get their heads examined, and get electric shock therapy before it is too late.
It is mistaken beliefs that feed war and misery.

I have highest respect for soldiers of both sides, but only scorn for people like you who believe in propaganda to achieve political means.
 
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How would one know these are Ukrainian servicemen or NATO mercenaries? They found lots of NATO equipment at the airport.
The soldiers of America are also soldiers. The leaders of USA are to blame if American soldiers are fighting in Ukraine without USA declaring a war. Same with Russia.

It is important to declare a war by the country's leader if that country's soldiers are to fight in a war.

USA is fighting so may secret wars that the whole international relations are gone for a toss and UN has become just a silent spectator.

Any military person who is on a payroll of a government is called a soldier. There is no distinction between "regular" or "irregular". The various battalions like Azov (privately financed) are called terrorists. This is the only correct definition.

In India, the para-military soldiers will have same status as Army soldiers if fighting in international environment. Both are paid by Indian government.
 
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The soldiers of America are also soldiers. The leaders of USA are to blame if American soldiers are fighting in Ukraine without USA declaring a war. Same with Russia.

It is important to declare a war by the country's leader if that country's soldiers are to fight in a war.

USA is fighting so may secret wars that the whole international relations are gone for a toss and UN has become just a silent spectator.

Any military person who is on a payroll of a government is called a soldier. There is no distinction between "regular" or "irregular". The various battalions like Azov (privately financed) are called terrorists. This is the only correct definition.

In India, the para-military soldiers will have same status as Army soldiers if fighting in international environment. Both are paid by Indian government.
Looking at those corpses, how does one identify whether they are Ukrainian servicemen or NATO mercenaries?
 

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Looking at those corpses, how does one identify whether they are Ukrainian servicemen or NATO mercenaries?
Do we need to.

The dead soldiers must be buried or cremated (as per their tradition) with military honours.

The terrorists are buried without military honours.

Thats about it.

If a Polish soldier is found dead (identifiable by a flag, patch or papers), then the dead must returned to Poland for last rites or buried in place of death if not claimed.

The employee of private corporations or private army must be treated as "terrorist". So the definition will apply to any soldier whose identification is not available. Such a person must be buried in unmarked grave.
 
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Do we need to.
We need to. A solid identification will only help turn public opinion against NATO. This is necessary, because, already, the Europeans are fed up of their vassal-hood to the US, and there is a distinct possibility of EU collapsing and taking NATO down with it. If people from NATO countries are killed in Ukraine, they should be returned to their respective countries in body-bags. What they do with the corpses is up to them.
 

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The unfortunate shelling of Donetsk airport by Kiev where dead bodies of Kiev's soldiers are rotting for a month shows the horrible nature of current Kiev's rulers. This shows what Nazi mentality can do to a person. They want power at any cost - and have no morals at all. I have studied Christianity and I have not found such behaviour condoned in Christianity. How do these rulers call themselves Christian?
 

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The unfortunate shelling of Donetsk airport by Kiev where dead bodies of Kiev's soldiers are rotting for a month shows the horrible nature of current Kiev's rulers. This shows what Nazi mentality can do to a person. They want power at any cost - and have no morals at all. I have studied Christianity and I have not found such behaviour condoned in Christianity. How do these rulers call themselves Christian?
They worship mammon.
 

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How would one know these are Ukrainian servicemen or NATO mercenaries? They found lots of NATO equipment at the airport.
its hard to say they are Ukrainian servicemen or NATO mercenaries. the sad part is their existence and deaths are denied now lots of corpses are being dug out form the rubble of airport :tsk:
 

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We need to. A solid identification will only help turn public opinion against NATO. This is necessary, because, already, the Europeans are fed up of their vassal-hood to the US, and there is a distinct possibility of EU collapsing and taking NATO down with it. If people from NATO countries are killed in Ukraine, they should be returned to their respective countries in body-bags. What they do with the corpses is up to them.
I have said already - if a corpse is identifiable by a patch or papers; then it is the responsibility of the employer to claim the body. If unclaimed, the soldier must be buried in place of death. A soldier should be buried in a marked grave. If no identification is found, then the body should be buried in unmarked grave (as per Christian tradition).
 
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