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"In honor of the arrival in Australia Poroshenko local svidomye desecrated dozens of Russian graves. About 70 graves were destroyed at the Russian cemetery in Sydney, Australia. According to the press service of the embassy of the Australian Department of Trans-Baikal Cossack. Acts of vandalism were committed on the old section of the cemetery near the so-called "Cossack series", where lie the Cossacks, officers and soldiers, including participants in the First World War. Transbaikal Cossack community has announced compensation of $ 5,000 Australian dollars for the provision of information that posodeystvuet apprehending criminals. According to Police action of vandalism may be the work of Ukrainian nationalists. In Australia Australian Federation of Ukrainian Organizations (AFUO). Meanwhile, the Transbaikal Cossack community in Australia is known for its support of New Russia. Its representative, Simeon Boiko, was even included in the SBU in the lists of "terrorists" , as a member of the militia in the Donbas. "



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"Ukrainian radicals attacks on churches. Since the beginning of this year in Ukraine there were more than 60 attacks on churches and priests. The change of power in Kiev led to a serious outbreak of radicalism, and the country's frequent attacks on Orthodox churches. "

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"Large columns of armored vehicles pulled together at the Donbass Ukrainian side." Thanks, "concluded the other day next raunchy truce Bandera punishers easy to rotate and customize equipment to the position in the line of sight militia, without fear of being shot."

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Video of the Chechen battalion "Death." "Chechen battalion" Death "arrived at the Donbass a few days ago and perform combat missions. The battalion fighting solely by volunteers with combat experience from 5 to 15 years old. Almost all militias in the battalion have experience serving in the Special Forces or riot police. The main task of the battalion-catching Chechens cooperating with the Kiev junta. "

 

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"Most of the army assault columns Donetsk People's Republic went on a dangerous section of the front - to Mariupol. The column dozens of BMP, the Urals, the gas-66, artillery, anti-aircraft installations. Among other units redeployed brigade "Hold" and the battalion tactical group "of Somalia." The truck convoy seen "greater jihad" Motorola. On many machines, written by the slogan "In Mariupol!"



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Another casualty of Russian misadventure expanding EU relationship (away from US)...

Tusk Expands EU Russia Response With Pro-U.S. Worldview



Day One in Donald Tusk's life as the new European Union president: make an unabashedly pro-American declaration, then call the White House. Day Two: meet Afghanistan's new leaders; on Day Three, catch up with the presidents of China and Ukraine and have NATO's chief drop by.

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Europe and the U.S. are "like a synonym of western civilization," Tusk, 57, said in a video biography on his YouTube channel.

Tusk's focus on the U.S. as the global center of gravity was shaped by a political apprenticeship in Poland's anti-communist resistance and seven years as the country's prime minister. Whether he can impart that worldview to the EU, in a continent of multiple and conflicting priorities, will start to emerge when he presides over his first summit of national leaders on Dec. 18.

One factor in Tusk's favor is that the Ukraine crisis has resurrected the joint trans-Atlantic will to stand up to Russia, at least temporarily. The principal American project on his agenda, however, is a trade deal that the EU figures would add 120 billion euros ($150 billion) to its slumbering economy.


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When the Europeans are insecure they run to the Americans but when they feel secure they forgot about the Americans...nice.

For sometime Putin was successful in driving a wedge between the Europeans and the Americans by dangling oil and befriending (paying in some extent) Western European leaders (especially Germans and French). But his Ukraine gamble has destroyed this successful strategy. Now he know the extent of Russian power. Putin's actions reminds me of stories about gamblers pushing the envelope too far during winning streaks and then ultimately losing their hard earned winnings.
 
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When the Europeans are insecure they run to the Americans but when they feel secure they forgot about the Americans...nice.
IMHO, America needs Europe more than Europe needs America.

You cannot ignore the fact that Europe and Russia are a conjoined landmass, while America is separated by the Atlantic Ocean. A natural deduction will tell you where the most trade and commerce is supposed to be. The forces of nature are at play.

For sometime Putin was successful in driving a wedge between the Europeans and the Americans by dangling oil and befriending (paying in some extent) Western European leaders (especially Germans and French). But his Ukraine gamble has destroyed this successful strategy. Now he know the extent of Russian power. Putin's actions reminds me of stories about gamblers pushing the envelope too far during winning streaks and then ultimately losing their hard earned winnings.
Sure, let Europe walk away from buying Russian oil and energy, if that is in the best interests of Europe. Who is stopping them? After all, they are (largely) part of NATO. Why aren't they walking away? We shall then see how Europe sustains its GDP without energy imports from Russia.
 

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Donald Tusk will preside over breakup of EU. This man has no sense of balance. Poroshenko and Tusk will prove the burden that breaks the camel's back.

An ocean separates America and Europe. Americans and Europeans do not have the same attitude or the same preferences. It is illogical to slap American solutions on Europe.

Donald Tusk is just a narrow minded selfish man who is given to aggrandizing himself over others.
 

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Germany, Stuck with Massive Bill for Ukraine, Asks Russia for Help

  • IMF: Ukraine Weeks Away from Economic Collapse - $15 billion urgently needed.
  • With 1 hand EU asks Russia for financial help, with other it bombs ethnic Russians in East Ukraine, sanctions Russian economy...
  • Black hole of Ukraine finances becoming a political liability for EU leaders.
  • EU demanding austerity from Ukraine while population struggles with grinding poverty, economic collapse.
  • EU policy towards Russia/Ukraine poorly conceived, in danger of collapsing due to contradictions.

Alexander Mercouris [SOURCE]


As this article in the Financial Times shows, the wheels are coming off Ukraine's economy, with the IMF now admitting it needs a further $15 billion on top of the money already given within weeks to avoid total collapse.

This has come after news the Ukrainian Central Bank's foreign exchange reserves have fallen below $10 billion.

Ukraine must pay a further $1.6 billion from these reserves before year end to fulfil its part of the gas deal the EU brokered between Ukraine and Russia on 30th October 2014.

This will push the Central Bank's foreign exchange reserves down to even more critical levels.

Meanwhile Gazprom has said that despite Ukraine's recent purchase of 1 billion cubic meters of gas from Russia, Ukraine's total gas reserves are close to critical levels, endangering transit of Russian gas to Europe.

The article however exposes something else, which is perhaps even more important.

The last two paragraphs in the article show that the German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schauble has been obliged to telephone Anton Siluanov, Russia's Finance Minister, to ask him not to call in Russia's $3 billion loan, which becomes automatically repayable when Ukraine's debt exceeds 60% of its GDP, something which everybody knows has now happened.

It also says that "George Osborne, the UK finance minister, expressed surprise at the request, attendees said, saying the EU was now asking for help from Russia at the same time it was sanctioning the Kremlin for its actions in Ukraine."

In other words in order to "save" Ukraine (and their own political reputations) the European leadership is now being forced to turn to Russia for help - the same country they accuse of invading and destabilising Ukraine and which they have sanctioned.

The background to this is that Russia is Ukraine's biggest creditor with Ukraine owing Russia around $35 billion. Money the IMF gives to Ukraine therefore inevitably ends up in Russia by way of debt repayments.

As we previously reported, another article in the Financial Times has confirmed what many have suspected - the western powers have been looking for excuses for Ukraine to renege on its debts to Russia whilst pretending it is not a default. To their intense frustration the western powers have discovered that the Russians were extremely careful to make their loans to Ukraine totally full-proof. The option of reneging on the loans does not therefore exist.

Transfers of yet more money to Ukraine from the West are now becoming so large and so open-ended that the point is probably soon coming (if it has not already come) when more transfers including the $15 billion the IMF is talking about would have to be authorised by national parliaments before they could legally happen.

At a time of economic austerity that might be very difficult to pull off, especially once it got known that most or even all the money would ultimately end up in Russia. At the very least it might lead to Western governments being asked serious questions in their parliaments about the policy in Ukraine they have been following - questions the governments might not want to answer or to have asked.

The result is that Western governments are turning to Russia for help since, as has been obvious from the start, it is only with Russia's help that Ukraine can be stabilised politically and economically.

At the same time, as Merkel's most recent comments show, they don't want to make any concessions to Russia over Ukraine or modify their policy there.

This is the delusion the West's Ukrainian policy has suffered from ever since talks about Ukraine's association agreement with the EU first got started.

The West wants Ukraine to follow a pro-West pro-EU anti-Russia line. At the same time they want and expect Russia to pay the bills. They are then baffled and angry when Russia says no.

Though Russia goes on saying no, they refuse to take no for an answer. Instead they threaten and pass more sanctions and vilify and abuse Russia's leadership in what is looking like an increasingly desperate hope that this will force Russia to back down and change its policy.



When that doesn't happen they are left looking like a card sharp with no cards left to play.

The latest report from the IMF shows that the moment when this delusional policy finally comes crashing down to earth may not now be so far off.

The International Monetary Fund has identified a $15bn shortfall in its bailout for war-torn Ukraine and warned western governments the gap will need to be filled within weeks to avoid financial collapse.

The IMF's calculations lay bare the perilous state of Ukraine's economy and hint at the financial burden of propping up Kiev as it battles Russian-backed separatist rebels in its eastern regions.

The additional cash needed would come on top of the $17bn IMF rescue announced in April and due to last until 2016. Senior western officials involved in the talks said there is only tepid support for such a sizeable increase at a time Kiev has dragged its feet over the economic and administrative reforms required by the programme.

"It's not going to be easy," said one official involved in the talks. "There's not that much money out there."

People briefed on the IMF warning said the fiscal gap has opened up because of a 7 per cent contraction in Ukraine's gross domestic product and a collapse in exports to Russia, the country's biggest trading partner, leading to massive capital outflows and a rundown in central bank reserves.

The breakaway regions of the east accounted for nearly 16 per cent of Ukraine's economic output before the start of hostilities.

Without additional aid, Kiev would have to massively slash its budget or be forced to default on its sovereign debt obligations. Since the bailout programme began in April, Ukraine has received $8.2bn in funding from the IMF and other international creditors.

Pierre Moscovici, the EU economics chief, said the European Commission was weighing a third rescue programme on top of the €1.6bn ($2bn) it has already committed to Kiev; the Ukrainian government has requested an additional €2bn from Brussels.

But Pier Carlo Padoan, the Italian finance minister who chaired a discussion of Ukraine's financial situation at a meeting of his EU counterparts on Tuesday, said EU resources should only be mobilised if Kiev made a "stronger effort" towards implementing reforms.

At a meeting of his cabinet in Kiev, Ukraine's prime minister, Arseniy Yatseniuk, insisted his government was prepared to put in place unpopular measures, including deep cuts in spending, a crackdown on the massive shadow economy and moves to deregulate the country's uncompetitive economy.

"It's hard for us to make ends meet ourselves," Mr Yatseniuk said. "We are not begging for money, we are not moaning. We are saying: we are partners. If we are partners, then help us and this help will go both ways."

Under IMF rules, the fund cannot distribute aid unless it has certainty a donor country can meet its financing obligations for the next 12 months, meaning the fund is unlikely to be able to send any additional cash to Kiev until the $15bn gap is closed.

The scale of the problem became clearer last week after Ukraine's central bank revealed its foreign currency reserves had dropped from $16.3bn in May to just $9bn in November. The data also showed the value of its gold reserves had dropped by nearly half over the same period.

A person with direct knowledge of the central bank's policy said part of the drop had been due to large-scale gold sales.

An IMF mission is currently in Kiev for talks with the government on the future of the programme.

According to two people who attended the EU meeting, concern over Ukrainian finances has become so severe that Wolfgang Schäuble, the German finance minister, said he had called his Russian counterpart, Anton Siluanov, to ask him to roll over a $3bn loan the Kremlin made to Kiev last year.

George Osborne, the UK finance minister, expressed surprise at the request, attendees said, saying the EU was now asking for help from Russia at the same time it was sanctioning the Kremlin for its actions in Ukraine.
 

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IMHO, America needs Europe more than Europe needs America.
Let's just say they equally need each other. When Europe can no longer handle the situation within its continent they always call for America. And before Ukraine America has been giving less emphasis to Europe and shifting more and more to Asia and the Middle East.


You cannot ignore the fact that Europe and Russia are a conjoined landmass, while America is separated by the Atlantic Ocean. A natural deduction will tell you where the most trade and commerce is supposed to be. The forces of nature are at play.
Russia may occupy the same landmass as the rest of Europe but throughout its history it has operated and considered itself a special power separate and distinct from the Europeans. The Western European powers in particular from mid 20th century until now has always been closer to America both politically, economically and culturally than to Russia.

After the fall of the Soviet Union a lot of the Eastern European countries that were kept inside the USSR has always looked across the Atlantic to America for protection.


Sure, let Europe walk away from buying Russian oil and energy, if that is in the best interests of Europe. Who is stopping them? After all, they are (largely) part of NATO. Why aren't they walking away? We shall then see how Europe sustains its GDP without energy imports from Russia.
If the articles in RT are any measure of Russian position then it is clear that Russia sees itself pushed into a corner in Ukraine by an aggressive joint US-EU effort to box it out from its traditional sphere of influence. In others words it is the Western Allies that are doing the bad things (mainly against Russia). But why for all the claimed affront against Russia does Putin cannot seem to shut off Europe from Russian gas? Haven't you asked that question to yourself?

You see if your calculus is right about European dependence on RUssia, why don't you think the Europeans are risking the prospect of freezing this winter over Ukraine. Does Russia really have that power over EU as what RT wants you to believe?
 
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@asianobserve, yes, I agree, they equally need each other.

Regarding the land mass or considering itself separate, that should not stop nations from being friendly or from trading.

Good fences make good neighbours. (Robert Frost)

When the wall is not respected, things fall apart.
 
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The only dependence of Eastern Europe from Russia - is the supply of natural gas.
That seems to be correct.

I googled and did not find anything much being exported beyond oil and gas.
 

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That seems to be correct.

I googled and did not find anything much being exported beyond oil and gas.
Here . Even Europe imports from Russia has a lot of minerals and timber also. However, this is not critical dependence. It does, only because these exports are cheaper, but can easily switch to other suppliers.
 
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