Tsai's Trump call violated 3 decades worth of protocol; and either way, the Chinese govt's response was quite nuanced considering that Trump is not the POTUS as yet. Where is your "blew chini minds" comment coming from?
Trump is not the POTUS as yet. but his call violated 3 decades worth of protocol
yes we did , after china started interfering in Indian Ocean & arabic ocean & started building bases in Burma , Bangladesh , Lanka , Pakistan , Maldives etc ............Your army crossed Borders .
As for Thailand's procured weapons from China, the unreliable Type-69 main battle tanks acquired in 1987 were withdrawn from service after a short service with the Thai Army, many were dumped in the sea to serve as artificial reefs and to improve the eco system.
Give us a link supporting your claim.. Even though Chinese Industry has a history of offering their exports with western components at client request, those are usually a very small ratio of the total contract. And almost all of the weapons suite is usually Chinese.
You're trying to put down the quality of Chinese exports, the recent slew of countries making orders and increasing previous acquisitions tells a different story.
Read your own source:Trump is not the POTUS as yet. but his call violated 3 decades worth of protocol
this was the Chinese response > www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-bomber-flight-send-message-donald-trump-taiwan-a7468021.html
yes we did , after china started interfering in Indian Ocean & arabic ocean & started building bases in Burma , Bangladesh , Lanka , Pakistan , Maldives etc ............Your army crossed Borders .
now when we are replying then Your started Playing Victim card .
we we will also Make Navy Bases in SCS , just wait & watch .
An anonymous US official making ridiculous assertions? H6K bombers have flown so many long range flights in the East and South China Sea's through-out the Obama Administration that its illogical to assume that these exercises would be halted because Tsai called the presedent ELECT. Obama is still the US president BTW. Did the Chinese embassy in the US raise any objections or protest? That's how diplomatic "messages" are sent.
How are you measuring this "quality and innovation"? If its through R&D spending then I suppose you'll be quite surprised at the results of a bit of research.
LOL you should read only your ccp mouth-peace global-times .....................facts & evidences are conspiracy of Americans/Indians /Japanese .Read your own source:
An anonymous US official making ridiculous assertions? H6K bombers have flown so many long range flights in the East and South China Sea's through-out the Obama Administration that its illogical to assume that these exercises would be halted because Tsai called the presedent ELECT. Obama is still the US president BTW. Did the Chinese embassy in the US raise any objections or protest? That's how diplomatic "messages" are sent.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...force-planes-pass-miyako-strait/#.WFJeXfB97IU
That's from September this year, when A flight of bombers, AWAC's ELINT and SU 30 escorts flew through the Miyako Straits for exercises in the East China Sea, West of Taiwan.
This is from earlier this year on a flight over the SCS and the disputed Huangyan Dao? Was did this have to do with Taiwan?
This is another flight through the Miyako Straits and into the Central pacific, again escorted by flankers, AWACS and ELINT Tu's.
A still from a video showing the former Fiery Cross reef from another H6K flight in the SCS, IN MAY:
http://www.janes.com/article/60277/...lies-over-fiery-cross-reef-in-south-china-sea
How are flight's that have been happening for years proving that Tsai's call "blew Chini minds"?
You're not making sense and are wildly off topic.
You can't even answer the questions I asked you...LOL you should read only your ccp mouth-peace global-times .....................facts & evidences are conspiracy of Americans/Indians /Japanese .
Name me 10 weapon platforms that China was the first to invent for starters on innovation.Forget innovation China doesnt even change the design of the thing they try to copy.
The Global times is a TABLOID.
That's a ridiculous measure for innovation. Who invented the first jet, the first submarine the first tank? By that count of the top ten weapons exporters, only Russia, the UK, Germany and the US would count as innovators, and most of their weapons platform innovations being iterations of ww2 or cold-war era designs.
Why not..the US created the armed drone,stealth jets,stealth frigates etc.Since you are climbing the ladder in most things you should be doing that too.You have the money.
I have had many chinese students as my batch mates and they openly confessed that, even working on industry after graduating the specialisation is basically in reverse engineering. The core technicality and R&D is only limited to very few sectors and basically the chinese have to rely on russian technology or western technology.
That's why I said that's a stupid measure of innovation. Because the US didn't "invent" stealth (by which you mean ships with reduced radar and IR signatures) ships or armed drones.
Sure they do Sir.Has China done any of these small innovations or big innovations.
India cannot stop brain drain or promote innovation ;one of the major reason being the Indian mentality.
And here comes the troll army armed with dusty articles from the last decade.https://jamestown.org/program/china...g-military-security-ties-in-the-21st-century/
Indeed, in the immediate aftermath of the September 2006 coup, China moved to embrace the new government while its treaty ally, the United States, looked on disapprovingly at the regression of Thai democracy. Nevertheless, as with other countries in Southeast Asia, Thailand seeks to balance the interests and influence of America and China, hedging against alternative futures.
However, Thai purchases of Chinese military equipment during the 1980s was as much for political reasons as military ones, and throughout this period Bangkok continued to rely on the United States for its most technologically sophisticated platforms, such as the F-16 fighter jet. Moreover, the Thai military was far from impressed with the poor quality of Chinese-made equipment, and while some of it was employed along the Thai-Cambodian border, much it was reserved for training purposes or simply warehoused and left to rust.
In 2001 the Defense Ministry agreed to buy Chinese-manufactured rocket propelled grenade launchers and in December 2002 placed a $98 million order for two Thai-designed offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) [2]. The two vessels—Pattani and Narathiwat—were delivered in late 2005. However, further offers by China to sell a range of defense equipment to the Kingdom failed to materialize. This included a follow-on order for two OPVs and an unspecified number of main battle tanks, while a proposed barter exchange deal involving 66,000 tons of dried Thai Longan fruit for Chinese-made APCs also fell through (instead Thailand purchased APCs from South Africa). Resistance from the Thai military on quality grounds was one reason for the failure to secure further orders, while Chi’s retirement in 2003 and Chavalit’s exit from politics in 2005 were other important factors.
However, due to concerns over quality and after-sales service, Thailand is unlikely to place any major orders with the PRC anytime soon, though joint research and development leading to co-production of weapons systems is quite likely.
@airtel There goes the narrative about Chinese quality having improved vastly after the 90s, this article was written in 2008.
TLDR: Thai politicians want to buy Chinese weapons because of wanting closer ties with China due to US frowning on the coup and also not wanting to put all eggs in one basket. But the Thai Army doesn't want any Chinese junk so they keep protesting
Also, our esteemed 50 center panel should find this interesting, Thai government couldn't afford even Chinese junk so they wanted to pay with dried fruit. So much for Thai being able to afford better quality stuff and still choosing Chinese.
This included a follow-on order for two OPVs and an unspecified number of main battle tanks, while a proposed barter exchange deal involving 66,000 tons of dried Thai Longan fruit for Chinese-made APCs also fell through (instead Thailand purchased APCs from South Africa).
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-defence-exports-idUSKCN0VU11Q
Back to your 8 year old article:
Let's see if that statement is valid. These articles are from THIS YEAR mate:
http://www.janes.com/article/61967/royal-thai-navy-reboots-plan-to-procure-submarines-from-china
They've even requested that China invest in an armaments factory and repair facility in THAILAND:
Thailand and many other countries are buying big ticket items from the Chinese military industrial complex. Google all the old articles you can find, it doesn't change that fact.
