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tank capabilities don't depend on looks.
Of course it doesn't depends on looks. That's why it has the highest crew protection level of any tank out there.
The most powerful gun in service on any tank currently and ammo which can punch through 1 meter of RHA from 2 km.
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that unmanned turret is extremely weak. one shot and it will penetrate the turret. and your gun doesn't work.
you are a beak-less bird
The unmanned turret is unmanned in first place. There is no need to put heavy armour there in first place. Armata turret has a very low profile, chance's of hitting it on tank on tank battle are low probably less than 10%. Most threat it faces are from small arms and ATGM, RPG etc for which it is well protected.
 

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Of course it doesn't depends on looks. That's why it has the highest crew protection level of any tank out there.
The most powerful gun in service on any tank currently and ammo which can punch through 1 meter of RHA from 2 km.

The unmanned turret is unmanned in first place. There is no need to put heavy armour there in first place. Armata turret has a very low profile, chance's of hitting it on tank on tank battle are low probably less than 10%. Most threat it faces are from small arms and ATGM, RPG etc for which it is well protected.
What low profile of turret ?
It's fairly high , infact tell me if turret is hit then how will you fight ?
 

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What low profile of turret ?
It's fairly high , infact tell me if turret is hit then how will you fight ?
if you manage to hit any tank turret it will be out of combat for a while, whether it is armata or arjun. Heavy Armour on turret is there to protect crew, no such limitation on armata. 95% of threats tanks face are from ATGMS, RPG not sabot & it is well protected against those threats. Armata is a Modular tank. armour can be added at will , depending on situation.
 

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Of course it doesn't depends on looks. That's why it has the highest crew protection level of any tank out there.
The most powerful gun in service on any tank currently and ammo which can punch through 1 meter of RHA from 2 km.

The unmanned turret is unmanned in first place. There is no need to put heavy armour there in first place. Armata turret has a very low profile, chance's of hitting it on tank on tank battle are low probably less than 10%. Most threat it faces are from small arms and ATGM, RPG etc for which it is well protected.



Armata turret has a very low profile, chance's of hitting it on tank on tank battle are low probably less than 10%.
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armata height = 3.3 m

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abrams(all variants) height = 2.44 m

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arjun mk1 height = 2.32 meters
mk1A height = 2.8 meters


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that red effect guy and his group even tried to post false edited documents of fsapds mk2 rounds penetration values in alpha defense discord assuming that alpha defense would fall for his trap and use these in future for response videos if any.

now that red scum is trying to look cool and stuff by saying that its for an april fools joke.
This technique of baiting is a technique we must use often against prejudiced people who are against us.

We must promote it wherever we can as he damage done is high and it has the affect of putting the woke person on the defensive and also it makes us look good and his agenda look bad.
 

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This technique of baiting is a technique we must use often against prejudiced people who are against us.

We must promote it wherever we can as he damage done is high and it has the affect of putting the woke person on the defensive and also it makes us look good and his agenda look bad.

nah man. its better to leave it at this point. you know other channels like matsimus, etc know about the fight between red effect and alpha defence.

even cheiftian (most famous tank youtuber) now knows about it.

its better to leave before the fight between red effect and alpha defence becomes cringe.
 

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armata height = 3.3 m

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abrams(all variants) height = 2.44 m

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arjun mk1 height = 2.32 meters
mk1A height = 2.8 meters


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height has nothing to do with turret profile , everything to do with gun elevation + to increase situational awareness, how ? Well

height of armata is 3.3 meters and since the radar is way up there we can put .003km for H2 Horizon calculator - radar and visual the radar horizon would be 7.14kms all the way to the ground. If it comes in contact with another 3 meter height tank it would be 14.28kms instead. mountainous regions increase the advantage of the T-14 as well to raise the radar horizon
 

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nah man. its better to leave it at this point. you know other channels like matsimus, etc know about the fight between red effect and alpha defence.

even cheiftian (most famous tank youtuber) now knows about it.

its better to leave before the fight between red effect and alpha defence becomes cringe.
Just curious but I can't help but wallow in others cringe fest like a pig.

What happened,I saw the matsimus video title for red affect vs alpha defence,I did not watch it.what happened there.

Also about the technique of baiting is that I was recommending it for general use against all anti national types and anti india types.lot of anti india types are not smart and are NPCs as I have noticed, especially the Pakis and this technique is especially effective against them as they always do not check and are eager to defame.

It is underhanded but I say it is perfect as it exploits your enemies weakness and should be done without consideration.
 

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This technique of baiting is a technique we must use often against prejudiced people who are against us.

We must promote it wherever we can as he damage done is high and it has the affect of putting the woke person on the defensive and also it makes us look good and his agenda look bad.
we must use often against prejudiced people who are against us.
unlike pan indian societies, western societies( example US & UK. of course not east europe and russia) tend to be more individual.

so they don't have this feeling of " propaganda against us". so you gotta deal in a similar way. so when they mock something, its only that particular thing. its not necessarily a propaganda.
um.. but... you know cross culture differences. unlike them, we have a responsibility of carrying our legacy of kings and civillization etc.


its simple. if alpha defence made some mistakes, he will accept it. but he also made a lot of good points. particularly in his last mbt arjun video (30min long).

both red effect and alpha defence trolled each other.

alpha defence also said that its his last video on arjun. thats a good move.

basically alpha defence english channel used to have a good western audience until red effect made a video on mbt arjun. the like dislike ratios got reversed. so alpha defence stooped uploading frequently on his english channel and focused mainly on hindi channel.
 

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Alpha defence made many mistakes and he was rip apart by red effect. and even after getting humiliated he kept coming back for more. Red affect mistakes was mostly due to non availability of info regarding arjun mk1a while alpha defence on the other simply don't know what he talks about most of the time. Only Indian channel worth following is defence decode.
 

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T14 is not gonna be game changer russia wants the west is already moving on to bigger guns 130mm and french also tested 140mm gun.the next western tanks are gonna outmatch and out gun it
 

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T14 is not gonna be game changer russia wants the west is already moving on to bigger guns 130mm and french also tested 140mm gun.the next western tanks are gonna outmatch and out gun it
Russian will move to 152mm , they have already tested it. Thing can punch through 1 meter of RHA from 5km.
 

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Alpha defence made many mistakes and he was rip apart by red effect. and even after getting humiliated he kept coming back for more. Red affect mistakes was mostly due to non availability of info regarding arjun mk1a while alpha defence on the other simply don't know what he talks about most of the time. Only Indian channel worth following is defence decode.
Red effect was more like arjun is trash! It is a salt dispenser but even in his arjun vs al khalid video he says both tanks are bad in some ways but he doesn't make videos mocking alkhalid .and his comment section is full of porks running wild
 

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@t 90s
any idea why u russians only use ERA than composites

anyway i guess @Bleh is the right person that u should be talking to on t90s and armor protection
y'all ive somework, so going off. now will come later
 

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Just curious but I can't help but wallow in others cringe fest like a pig.

What happened,I saw the matsimus video title for red affect vs alpha defence,I did not watch it.what happened there.

Also about the technique of baiting is that I was recommending it for general use against all anti national types and anti india types.lot of anti india types are not smart and are NPCs as I have noticed, especially the Pakis and this technique is especially effective against them as they always do not check and are eager to defame.

It is underhanded but I say it is perfect as it exploits your enemies weakness and should be done without consideration.
simple story.

1)alpha defence makes video on arjun way back

2) red effect later makes his 1st video on it arjun. quotes alpha defence inside the video. but credits not given in the description.

3) alpha defence makes a video on criticisms of arjun( not a response video) but a general video on all criticisms. also copyright strikes red effect for not giving credit and using off his video.

4) later after some comment war. red effect gives credit and reuploads. alpha defence also removes copyright claims under fair use etc.

5) red effect starts trolling and mocking arjun tank in literally every video. red effect followers start raiding and trolling on many alphas videos.

6) alpha defence makes a separate troll channel called blue effect, to troll & mock red effect.

7)red effect makes some 5 videos only on arjun tank(every other tank has only 1) with misleading thumbnails.(to get indian views). he used to get good no. of views initially and also he got some million views on arjun tank video. and later barely got some 10k- 30k per video. because most indians viewers stopped watching his channel after his first video on arjun.

8) trolling continues from both sides.

9)red effect and his friends try to post false documents on FSAPDS penetration values in alphas discord( in reality mk-1 has some 300mm at 0 deg 2km and 500mm pen at 0 deg 2km and 575 mm at 0 deg 10m). but red effect changes the pdfs of (DRDO, OFB, CVRDE) documents found online. to make them look more. so that alpha falls into his trap for next video on mbt arjun.

10)alpha makes one last video(30min) explaining everything including trolling done by him on red. also says blue effect troll channel will continue.

11)red effect makes 6th video on arjun and tells that the documents were part of april fools prank and its all fun and games.

12) matsimum makes a video on fight between alpha and red also quotes on having an open room discussion with red, matsimus, alpha and chieftian.

13) cheiftian also comments like he's okay with such open discussions.


---end of story----
 

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