Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT)

[MisraZ]

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am i tactical enough??

Tactical? Yes. Practical? Hell no

 

[airstrike99]

red effect has based most of his points on facts. He was wrong on some point because he didn't know about full details of arjun while alpha defence despite having all the details has poor knowledge about tanks in general.

red effect has based most of his points on facts. He was wrong on some point because he didn't know about full details of arjun

so you agree that he did not know about full details. then, how does it become a constructive criticism? when you make claims without knowing the full facts( the one's that are in the public domain)

Indians have a habit of not taking constructive criticism.

someone here called him a--- quote "russian Sc*m". such language is a bit unparliamentary.
but its more of a personal attack on red effect than a generalised attack of him being russian or anything else(idk his race or ethnicity). for example--you have cases in india, where some politician called russia as unreliable partner in buying weapon systems, but funny thing is people came to support russia over their politician, and even the russian embassy were surprised and thanked them.

Indians have a habit of not taking constructive criticism.

1) not all. no need to generalise. some are idiots that even make death threats. but such people exist in all countries.

2)it is called constructive criticism, if its based on proper facts.

He was wrong on some point because he didn't know about full details of arjun

the details that he didn't know were already in public domain. so it doesn't become constructive criticism. it becomes a poorly researched topic. atleast he could stated it right from the start.

at the end of the day, Arjun MK1 is still reliable and better than T-90-S based on trails and evidence( not by some keyboard warriors. but by official army trails along with Ministry of defence, and CAG).

no need to discuss further.

 

[airstrike99]

Tactical? Yes. Practical? Hell no

but tactical equipments ARE practical.

 

[t 90s]

lol, The Arjun defeated the T90s in direct trials. End of story. Have a good day. Ciao.

and a ferrari defeated arjun in a speed trial. Let's induct Ferrari instead of arjun.

 

[MisraZ]

and a ferrari defeated arjun in a speed trial. Let's induct Ferrari instead of arjun.

What kind of dumb comparison is this bro?

Read CAG reports w.r.t. requirements for T90 v/s Arjun by Army.

 

[Longewala]

and a ferrari defeated arjun in a speed trial. Let's induct Ferrari instead of arjun.

Do you know the difference between speed trials and tank trials

 

[t 90s]

What kind of dumb comparison is this bro?

Read CAG reports w.r.t. requirements for T90 v/s Arjun by Army.

I know all about cag report. Won't change the fact that arjun still carry a rifled gun. For it's price, it has poor protection level + fire power.

 

[THESIS THORON]

What kind of dumb comparison is this bro?

Read CAG reports w.r.t. requirements for T90 v/s Arjun by Army.

WEIGHT IS STILL A PROBLEM

 

[airstrike99]

and a ferrari defeated arjun in a speed trial. Let's induct Ferrari instead of arjun.

no we induct "desert ferrari" titled tank instead of ferrari

 

[airstrike99]

Do you know the difference between speed trials and tank trials

if he knew, why would he say such things.

 

[t 90s]

WEIGHT IS STILL A PROBLEM

Weight is not a problem, it's just an excuse. all western MBT are heavy. Even next generation russian and Chinese MBT are heavy. Problem with Arjun is fck ups one after the other. With Mk1a there are some improvement but still pathetic for such a high price.

 

[Marliii]

Mr red effect my dear tank commander who lead t34s during the battle of kursk I am sorry in calling you a russian "scum".

 

[Longewala]

I wish things were that simple.

As the gulf war and Israeli war kill ratios showed, sometimes things are simple: the Soviet philosophy of tank design is outdated and cannot match any modern western design tank.

Would you buy a Soviet design car or electronic appliance instead of a Western one?

 

[airstrike99]

As the gulf war and Israeli war kill ratios showed, sometimes things are simple: the Soviet philosophy of tank design is outdated and cannot match any modern western design tank.

Would you buy a Soviet design car or electronic appliance instead of a Western one?

ssshhhhhh. you can't reason with a soviet fangirl

 

[t 90s]

As the gulf war and Israeli war kill ratios showed, sometimes things are simple: the Soviet philosophy of tank design is outdated and cannot match any modern western design tank.

Would you buy a Soviet design car or electronic appliance instead of a Western one?

Do not compare monkey model exported to rest of the world for what russians will use if s**t hit the fan. Have you seen there latest upgrade on T 72 and T 90. There's nothing matching T 14 armata anywhere yet period.

 

[Marliii]

Do not compare monkey model exported to rest of the world for what russians will use if s**t hit the fan. Have you seen there latest upgrade in T 72 and T 90. There's nothing matching T 14 armata anywhere yet period.

T14 isnt an invincible warrior as russians terms it to be.

 

[t 90s]

T14 isnt an invincible warrior as russians terms it to be.

Nothing is. But if you have a choice between arjun or armata, i will go for armata.

 

[airstrike99]

Do not compare monkey model exported to rest of the world for what russians will use if s**t hit the fan. Have you seen there latest upgrade on T 72 and T 90. There's nothing matching T 14 armata anywhere yet period.

tank capabilities don't depend on looks.

that unmanned turret is extremely weak. one shot and it will penetrate the turret. and your gun doesn't work.
you are a beak-less bird.

 

[Marliii]

Nothing is. But if you have a choice between arjun or armata, i will go for armata.

The next gen tank NGMBT is the future of indian army.not armata arjun mk1a in my belief should be ditched and NGMBT given high priority

 

[Marliii]

tank capabilities don't depend on looks.

that unmanned turret is extremely weak. one shot and it will penetrate the turret. and your gun doesn't work.
you are a beak-less bird.

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And the main thing.ruskies will only a sell a degraded version of armata.