Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT)

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We used to have much bigger tank force in past & Its not like we are about to produce but in fact we are producing and working accordingly..

Imho, IA is a better example than USSR who would muster huge tank forces with variety of tanks for different regions..

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Besides 125mm will no longer main ammo as IA looking at 120mm Guns for FMBT now Arjun MK3..

I beg to differ on this when you have an armoured corp using only 1 tank this simplifies logistics and you even gain on economies of scale,given that we have a large tank force. For example let's get to the ammo Arjun uses 120mm and T-90 uses 125mm so we need to produce two types.


At the end of the day we are not the USSR who would muster huge tank forces with elite units staffed with 1 tank and regular units with another tank.
 

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We used to have much bigger tank force in past & Its not like we are about to produce but in fact we are producing and working accordingly..

Imho, IA is a better example than USSR who would muster huge tank forces with variety of tanks for different regions..

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Besides 125mm will no longer main ammo as IA looking at 120mm Guns for FMBT now Arjun MK3..
You are again not getting my point are we moving from 125mm to 120mm and if so how we justify the maintenance of the huge park of T-72/T-90 and given that we are not going for huge numbers of Arjun I'm clueless.

You are evading my question by talking about MK3 this is years away. Is it wise to spend lot on T-90 and equally made an investment on Arjun MK1/MK2 if its to develop our tank industry am all for it but there are no indications IA is going to induct them in large numbers.
 

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That is because T-72M1 wont be around long, You are looking only at present my take is with present and keeping in mind about Near future IA plans, I am not evading but was talking about the subject only..

Evolution, Arjun MK-1 to MK2 then MK3 and so on, We just started our mark..

You are again not getting my point are we moving from 125mm to 120mm and if so how we justify the maintenance of the huge park of T-72/T-90 and given that we are not going for huge numbers of Arjun I'm clueless.

You are evading my question by talking about MK3 this is years away. Is it wise to spend lot on T-90 and equally made an investment on Arjun MK1/MK2 if its to develop our tank industry am all for it but there are no indications IA is going to induct them in large numbers.
 

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MK-II variant of Main Battle Tank (MBT) Arjun has entered into the user trial phase and DRDO is looking at the Futuristic Main Battle Tank (FMBT) project aimed at reducing the weight of the battle tanks, said DRDO chief V K Saraswat, who was in the city to attend the valedictory function of Post Induction Training School (POINTS) – 17 at the Defence Institute of Advanced Technology (DIAT) at Girinagar in Khadakwasla.

Talking to the reporters Saraswat said, "The trials of MK-II variant MBT Arjun are expected to be complete within a year after which we will be in a position to produce 300 to 400 units for the Army." On being asked about FMBT he said, "The idea is to reduce the weight of the tank. Developed nations such as the United States of America and Israel have been working on reducing the weights of battle tanks. Heavy weights of tanks affect their maneuverability. We are therefore looking to reduce the weight of FMBT to 50 tonnes each."

Commenting on the Indian Operating System (OS), Saraswat said that Indian OS is relevant in the time of cyber warfare and the DRDO has set a time-frame of three years for the project to materialise. About 250 outstanding senior faculty members from important Institutions such as IITs, IISc, NITs, DIAT and other institutes of national importance along with scientist faculties from various DRDO labs/establishments and Armed Forces have delivered customised lectures during this POINTS – 17 programme, a press release issued by Press Information Bureau said.
FMBT to focus on weight reduction of battle tanks, says DRDO chief
 

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Good News, Will see what more changes that been done..

MK-II variant of Main Battle Tank (MBT) Arjun has entered into the user trial phase
 

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Not decided yet by Army, But if FMBT cancelled it will in form of Arjun MK3..

Top brass dont have any good remarks about FMBT..
 

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Looks like Arjun, let's forget about this silly ammunition with poor performance but, the turret is interesting, seems to be one of the earlier prototypes. I like the main sight placement, this prototype seems to have better sight placement than the production vehicle. Turret somewhat reminds me Vickers Mk7/2.

From what year is that photograph?
 

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Looks like Arjun, let's forget about this silly ammunition with poor performance but, the turret is interesting, seems to be one of the earlier prototypes. I like the main sight placement, this prototype seems to have better sight placement than the production vehicle. Turret somewhat reminds me Vickers Mk7/2.

From what year is that photograph?


I dont know, but it's only recently shown.

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@Damian

Yup, it's one of the early prototypes.
 
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Hmmm, I wonder, if this is early prototype, why the hell they relocated main sight, of course in theory the cause was commander panoramic sight, but on the other hand, they could place it behind TC hatch like in Leo2A5/A6. If the sight would be where it is seen on this prototype, then the frontal protection would have much more uniform protection.

But what is more interesting, here the veicle is clearly inspired by British tanks, turret is very similiar to Vickers Mk7/2:

 

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To BHASWAR: Yup, it was one of the earliest prototypes of Arjun & the photo was of the late 1980s. There are several more photos of all the prototypes of Arjun MBT that are contained in a special commemorative book on the Arjun MBT that was brought out by DRDO last year. Of course, there will be several 'horrible' internet chat forums whose members have already started masturbating after blindly assuming that the photo shows the Arjun Mk2 (godforesaken morons!!!). All designs of indigenously-built warships are not frozen even after hull fabrication has begun, & the P-17A FFG is no exception. Certain bad habits of the IN's Naval Design Bureau do tend to linger on.

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