AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[fire starter]

Reflection on the Sunglasses showing a SU 30 MKIs.

Those are super sukhoi.

 

[scatterStorm]

Request: RR engine, with engine nozzle designed for tempest on AMCA model.

 

[BangaliBabu]

Request: RR engine, with engine nozzle designed for tempest on AMCA model.

your request or ADA's?

 

[A chauhan]

Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make more Tejas Mark-2s & focus on AMCA fighter jets

The fourth generation MWF will probably be ready by end of next decade. China already has two fifth-generation fighter jets, and it can sell to Pakistan.
Yusuf T. Unjhawala 19 September, 2019 1:25 pm IST

To maintain a qualitative edge over its adversaries, put scarce resources to better use and look at over 50 years at the horizon, the Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make 200 fourth generation LCA Tejas Mark-2 fighter jets and focus on the fifth generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft – AMCA – stealth fighter jets...

Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make more Tejas Mark-2s & focus on AMCA fighter jets

The fourth generation MWF will probably be ready by end of next decade. China already has two fifth-generation fighter jets, and it can sell to Pakistan.

theprint.in

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And this :-

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Our @Yusuf saying that MWF or Mk2 should be dropped in favor of AMCA and its relevance after its induction and for coming years.

Interesting thought, what say guys ?

 

[HawkisRight]

Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make more Tejas Mark-2s & focus on AMCA fighter jets

The fourth generation MWF will probably be ready by end of next decade. China already has two fifth-generation fighter jets, and it can sell to Pakistan.
Yusuf T. Unjhawala 19 September, 2019 1:25 pm IST

To maintain a qualitative edge over its adversaries, put scarce resources to better use and look at over 50 years at the horizon, the Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make 200 fourth generation LCA Tejas Mark-2 fighter jets and focus on the fifth generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft – AMCA – stealth fighter jets...

Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make more Tejas Mark-2s & focus on AMCA fighter jets

The fourth generation MWF will probably be ready by end of next decade. China already has two fifth-generation fighter jets, and it can sell to Pakistan.

theprint.in

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And this :-

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Our @Yusuf saying that MWF or Mk2 should be dropped in favor of AMCA and its relevance after its induction and for coming years.

Interesting thought, what say guys ?

Not practical
Jaguar mirage mig29 replacement will be provided by MWF..AMCA Has a different role
Future inventory After all replacement will be for IAF like this
Mk1a point defense
MWF swing/multirole(quantity)
AMCA stealth/5th gen
Rafale multirole/area dominance/force multiplier
IAF desperately need numbers
We can't skip MWF

 

[Akula]

Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make more Tejas Mark-2s & focus on AMCA fighter jets

The fourth generation MWF will probably be ready by end of next decade. China already has two fifth-generation fighter jets, and it can sell to Pakistan.
Yusuf T. Unjhawala 19 September, 2019 1:25 pm IST

To maintain a qualitative edge over its adversaries, put scarce resources to better use and look at over 50 years at the horizon, the Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make 200 fourth generation LCA Tejas Mark-2 fighter jets and focus on the fifth generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft – AMCA – stealth fighter jets...

Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make more Tejas Mark-2s & focus on AMCA fighter jets

The fourth generation MWF will probably be ready by end of next decade. China already has two fifth-generation fighter jets, and it can sell to Pakistan.

theprint.in

_______________________________________
And this :-

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Our @Yusuf saying that MWF or Mk2 should be dropped in favor of AMCA and its relevance after its induction and for coming years.

Interesting thought, what say guys ?

We need large number of single engine and affordable jets doing CAP's instead of Su-30mki and Rafales.

 

[A chauhan]

Not practical
Jaguar mirage mig29 replacement will be provided by MWF..AMCA Has a different role
Future inventory After all replacement will be for IAF like this
Mk1a point defense
MWF swing/multirole(quantity)
AMCA stealth/5th gen
Rafale multirole/area dominance/force multiplier
IAF desperately need numbers
We can't skip MWF

Yusuf's primary concern is
the time which is going to take in testing and induction of MK2. If Ada and Hal can achieve it in promised time than both projects should go together if any delay is seen then Mwf should be pushed as secondary project.

 

[patriots]

When the timeline of Amca is beyond 2030 ,why people are saying mwf should be stopped in favour of Amca....
Amca will be inducted not before 2035...
While mwf first lsp will fly before 2024 ..so induction can be started much before 2030 ......amca will be very costly,...again do u people believe china willl retire it's 400+ j10 before 2050 ...
China is still struggling with j20 ...and fc31 ...
Again why super hornet program and f15 ex Program are running......coz 5th gen fighter s are costly to produce and costly to operate too....when usa with 2 active 5th gen fighter s is willing to induct 4.5 gen fighter s....then are we richer than them......

Again whom we gonna fight...paf and plaaf
Paf has 100+ jf 17 ..they will have 200+ jf 17 ..are they going to retire them before 2035 .....
Is iaf going to retire all new rafale s before 2050 ....

A stealthy fighter has its pro and cons...,.a stealthy fighter has weapon load limitations....

 

[A chauhan]

When the timeline of Amca is beyond 2030 ,why people are saying mwf should be stopped in favour of Amca....
Amca will be inducted not before 2035...
While mwf first lsp will fly before 2024 ..so induction can be started much before 2030 ......amca will be very costly,...again do u people believe china willl retire it's 400+ j10 before 2050 ...
China is still struggling with j20 ...and fc31 ...
Again why super hornet program and f15 ex Program are running......coz 5th gen fighter s are costly to produce and costly to operate too....when usa with 2 active 5th gen fighter s is willing to induct 4.5 gen fighter s....then are we richer than them......

Again whom we gonna fight...paf and plaaf
Paf has 100+ jf 17 ..they will have 200+ jf 17 ..are they going to retire them before 2035 .....
Is iaf going to retire all new rafale s before 2050 ....

A stealthy fighter has its pro and cons...,.a stealthy fighter has weapon load limitations....

Bro, if China doesn't retire J10s it will surely induct 100s of J20s and J31s, which will pose a serious threat for IAF or any airforce in the world.

You will see 100s of J20s within next 5 years.

 

[HawkisRight]

Yusuf's primary concern is
the time which is going to take in testing and induction of MK2. If Ada and Hal can achieve it in promised time than both projects should go together if any delay is seen then Mwf should be pushed as secondary project.

Leave them fanboys aside...hal/Ada can't take a jump to 5th gen tech by skipping r&d on mwf also MWF will be incorporating few amca tech in second stage..and we r not compromising on quality also in MWF which will have Bvr,criuse,stand of weapons,ew suite,uttam aesa, avionics, network warfare capabilities all of it best in class..MWF is also very important for aviation ecosystem in coming decades and I feel very strange that There r only two indigenous fighter projects IAF is interested MWF(extension of lca) nd Amca but still u want 2 skip one of them...and god forbid if Nambiar sir is right about true blue Amca coming in 2040 then there is no sense to skip MWF...MWF is IAF's single source solution for all of those numbers, replacements and those sorties

 

[A chauhan]

Leave them fanboys aside...hal/Ada can't take a jump to 5th gen tech by skipping r&d on mwf also MWF will be incorporating few amca tech in second stage..and we r not compromising on quality also in MWF which will have Bvr,criuse,stand of weapons,ew suite,uttam aesa, avionics, network warfare capabilities all of it best in class..MWF is also very important for aviation ecosystem in coming decades and I feel very strange that There r only two indigenous fighter projects IAF is interested MWF(extension of lca) nd Amca but still u want 2 skip one of them...and god forbid if Nambiar sir is right about true blue Amca coming in 2040 then there is no sense to skip MWF...MWF is IAF's single source solution for all of those numbers, replacements and those sorties

Yeah both are crucial for us, but for MWF we have many Mig29s, Mirage2000s as of now but 0 5th gen, so AMCA must be fastracked, let's go for few additional squadrons of Rafales and fastrack AMCA, and work on MWF simultaneously ?

 

[patriots]

Bro, if China doesn't retire J10s it will surely induct 100s of J20s and J31s, which will pose a serious threat for IAF or any airforce in the world.

You will see 100s of J20s within next 5 years.

Bro
Iaf says Rafale is superior to j20
And Nambiar sir says mwf will be superior to rafale ...then mwf will be superior to j20
Again if mmrca happen then it will take care of j20 ....or more rafale s will take care of j20

 

[A chauhan]

Bro
Iaf says Rafale is superior to j20
And Nambiar sir says mwf will be superior to rafale ...then mwf will be superior to j20
Again if mmrca happen then it will take care of j20 ....or more rafale s will take care of j20

I'll take such statements with a pinch of salt bro. I wonder if we can make better EW suite than Spectra of Rafale.

 

[HawkisRight]

Yeah both are crucial for us, but for MWF we have many Mig29s, Mirage2000s as of now but 0 5th gen, so AMCA must be fastracked, let's go for few additional squadrons of Rafales and fastrack AMCA, and work on MWF simultaneously ?

MWF will come in late 30s at d speed we r going now till then m2k mig29 will be reaching end point so no MWF should get first priority and Rafale iaf is ordering to counter Chinese threat with whatever resources r available to iaf...gov can fast-track amca but again lot of variables r involved in it which itself is another topic

 

[A chauhan]

MWF will come in late 30s at d speed we r going now till then m2k mig29 will be reaching end point so no MWF should get first priority and Rafale iaf is ordering to counter Chinese threat with whatever resources r available to iaf...gov can fast-track amca but again lot of variables r involved in it which itself is another topic

IAF is not repeating mistakes and working from the beginning so let's hope MWF doesn't get delayed.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

 

[Varun794]

All set to be led by L&T?
When was this announced?

 

[Assassin 2.0]

All set to be led by L&T?
When was this announced?

Bid To Choose Pvt Partner In India’s 5th Gen Fighter JV Begins

Never before has an Indian private sector company been offered the opportunity to be an equal partner in a military […]

www.livefistdefence.com

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L&T is the top runner they are not officially chosen but it's most likely that they will be involved in AMCA project in a serious way.
L&T have great experience in working with government on strategic projects and they do have capabilities to give a positive effect to this program.

 

[Varun794]

Bid To Choose Pvt Partner In India’s 5th Gen Fighter JV Begins

Never before has an Indian private sector company been offered the opportunity to be an equal partner in a military […]

www.livefistdefence.com

.

L&T is the top runner they are not officially chosen but it's most likely that they will be involved in AMCA project in a serious way.
L&T have great experience in working with government on strategic projects and they do have capabilities to give a positive effect to this program.

That's true but has there been announcement or something? Because in the video description it states "AMCA all set to be led by private sector giant L&T"

 

[Karthi]

Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make more Tejas Mark-2s & focus on AMCA fighter jets

The fourth generation MWF will probably be ready by end of next decade. China already has two fifth-generation fighter jets, and it can sell to Pakistan.
Yusuf T. Unjhawala 19 September, 2019 1:25 pm IST

To maintain a qualitative edge over its adversaries, put scarce resources to better use and look at over 50 years at the horizon, the Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make 200 fourth generation LCA Tejas Mark-2 fighter jets and focus on the fifth generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft – AMCA – stealth fighter jets...

Indian Air Force should drop its plan to make more Tejas Mark-2s & focus on AMCA fighter jets

The fourth generation MWF will probably be ready by end of next decade. China already has two fifth-generation fighter jets, and it can sell to Pakistan.

theprint.in

_______________________________________
And this :-

________________________________________


Our @Yusuf saying that MWF or Mk2 should be dropped in favor of AMCA and its relevance after its induction and for coming years.

Interesting thought, what say guys ?

Thats a wrong assessment, MWF is key for successful development of AMCA crucial techs for AMCA will be tested in MWF . And the manufacturing technologies for a fifth generation Aircraft should evolve, for that we need MWF and need experience in manufacturing procedures, we all know HAL is behind in manufacturing, HAL need to create a robust ecosystem at sub systems levels through various vendors, it can only achieve through MWF. Sensor fusion , Unmanned Wingman , integration with other platforms , secure data link/ Software Defined Radio etc need to evolve.I can write atleast three pages on this regard.

MWF itself will be superior to entire Pak Airforce , and will outperform most of the Chinese 4th gen aircraft .