Al-Khalid MBT And Pakistani Armour

[Kunal Biswas]

Lahat Discussion moved to :

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/land-forces/39363-tank-guns-ammunition-12.html

 

[farhan_9909]

AL KHALID I
BURRAQ MRAP(similar to israely wild cat)

General Tariq Majid, Chairman CJCSC visited Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) - February 24, 2010 - YouTube

 

[sayareakd]

Too add something more.

what is top right ?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

AL KHALID I
BURRAQ MRAP(Copy of israely wild cat)

General Tariq Majid, Chairman CJCSC visited Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) - February 24, 2010 - YouTube

Are those old AL-KAHALID ?

 

[farhan_9909]

Are those old AL-KAHALID ?

notice the side skirts(thickened)

other changes are internal(more ammo capacity,different armour,

and the turret from front is slightly slanted as well(visible more on the prototype photo)posted before

 

[farhan_9909]

 

[Kunal Biswas]

notice the side skirts(thickened)

other changes are internal(more ammo capacity,different armour,)

and the turret from front is slightly slanted as well(visible more on the prototype photo)posted before

In other words this is a Type-96 make over..

But without Heavy Composite Armour module..

 

[farhan_9909]

In other words this is a Type-96 make over..

But without Heavy Composite Armour module..

your opinion doesnt even counts
type 96 was a 2nd gen tank Such as your arjun.

Mbt2000 was a jv based on type90(China first 3rd gen tank)

which Pakistan further modified into Al khalid

now your free to whatever you believe.

 

[farhan_9909]

ZTZ96 Main Battle Tank
The ZTZ96 (also known as Type 96 or Type 88C) is the second-generation main battle tank (MBT) in service with the PLA.

ZTZ96 (Type 96) Main Battle Tank - SinoDefence.com

 

[farhan_9909]

type 96

The Type 96 (sometimes also referred to as Type 88C) is the final development variant of China's second generation main battle tank, with certain performance approaching the standard of the Western and Russian third generation main battle tanks. It inherits features of the previous second generation MBT that China developed including the Type 85 and Type 88 series.
Army Guide - ZTZ96/Type 96, Main battle tank

Army Guide - ZTZ96/Type 96, Main battle tank

 

[The Fox]

your opinion doesnt even counts
type 96 was a 2nd gen tank Such as your arjun.

Mbt2000 was a jv based on type90(China first 3rd gen tank)

which Pakistan further modified into Al khalid

now your free to whatever you believe.

seriously u need to wake up and smell coffee tell me which 2nd gen Tank Have APS millile launching capability and T90 is a 3rd gen tank and no doubt about it rite and then the so called Arjun 2nd gen tank ate the T90 for breakfast so put ur patriotism aside and talk sensibly .................

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I was not giving opinion, i was telling..

1/2/3/4/5 gen are nothing but marketing terminology..

your opinion doesnt even counts,type 96 was a 2nd gen tank Such as your arjun.Mbt2000 was a jv based on type90(China first 3rd gen tank),which Pakistan further modified into Al khalid,now your free to whatever you believe.

First you should know about your own tanks than comment on others..

On topic: AL-Khalid deign is undoubted based on early type-96 tanks..

We have Photos from Chinese source about so..

 

[The Fox]

your opinion doesnt even counts
type 96 was a 2nd gen tank Such as your arjun.

Mbt2000 was a jv based on type90(China first 3rd gen tank)

which Pakistan further modified into Al khalid

now your free to whatever you believe.

Seriously u need to wake up and smell coffee tell me which 2nd gen Tank Have APS, missile launching capability and T90 is a 3rd gen tank and no doubt about it rite and then the so called Arjun 2nd gen tank ate the T90 for breakfast so put ur patriotism aside and talk sensibly .................


More over from what you said is the Al Khalid is the modified version of type 90 of chinies origin and if that's the case then stop calling it a JV. its a license production customized to pakistani need just like SU30 MKI india donot call it as a JV its license production with Customization required by the user ........

 

[farhan_9909]

seriously u need to wake up and smell coffee tell me which 2nd gen Tank Have APS, missile launching capability and T90 is a 3rd gen tank and no doubt about it rite and then the so called Arjun 2nd gen tank ate the T90 for breakfast so put ur patriotism aside and talk sensibly .................

well personaly i like arjun
but look at his Reply

he cant differentiate between a 2nd and a 3rd gen tank.
Beside this basic AK weighs 48 tonnes while the ak1 1800kg more

and the type 96 weighs just 41 tonnes.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

seriously u need to wake up and smell coffee tell me which 2nd gen Tank Have APS millile launching capability and T90 is a 3rd gen tank and no doubt about it rite and then the so called Arjun 2nd gen tank ate the T90 for breakfast so put ur patriotism aside and talk sensibly .................

Look last few pages, you are asking wrong person..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

he cant differentiate between a 2nd and a 3rd gen tank..

Beside this basic AK weighs 48 tonnes while the ak1 1800kg more.

Firstly, Assuming you know about proper definition about generations:

What type and specs refer to 1st gen ? 2nd gen ? 3rd gen ?

Secondly, Weight increase Not necessarily means Armour increase, it can be engine, Gun shock absorbers, Bigger fuel tanks, etc, As told before

 

[farhan_9909]

I was not giving opinion, i was telling..

1/2/3/4/5 gen are nothing but marketing terminology..



First you should know about your own tanks than comment on others..

On topic: AL-Khalid deign is undoubted based on early type-96 tanks..

We have Photos from Chinese source about so..

all the tanks are based over each other.
Such as t90 on t72
t80 on t64
merkeva series on each other
AND MANY MORE

excep arjun(though there are German engineering help but not in a mood to tank over arjun)

 

[Kunal Biswas]

1/2/3/4/5 gen are nothing but marketing terminology..

First you should know about your own tanks than comment on others..

On topic: AL-Khalid deign is undoubted based on early type-96 tanks..

We have Photos from Chinese source about so..

all the tanks are based over each other.such as t90 on t72,t80 on t64,merkeva series on each other,AND MANY MORE,excep arjun(though there are German engineering help but not in a mood to tank over arjun)

All tank based on tank as concepts, T-90S is highly modified T-72 and both absolutely not related to T-64 and T-80, This shows you knowledge about tanks..

Leave Arjun and Western tanks, I wont care to ask about it..

Firstly, Assuming you know about proper definition about generations

What type and specs refer to 1st gen ? 2nd gen ? 3rd gen ?

Secondly, Weight increase Not necessarily means Armour increase, it can be engine, Gun shock absorbers, Bigger fuel tanks, etc, As told before

-----> ?

 

[The Fox]

let me help you in the dividing the tanks and their generations please check this link
List of main battle tanks by generation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
here is the different classification of the tanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification

and few other tanks of 3rd gen
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/main-battle-tanks.asp

 

[bose]

your opinion doesnt even counts
type 96 was a 2nd gen tank Such as your arjun.

Mbt2000 was a jv based on type90(China first 3rd gen tank)

which Pakistan further modified into Al khalid

now your free to whatever you believe.

Can you please explain the bold part. Please be very clear on it as I have a poor knowledge on Tanks.