This perfectly shows, that under very thin outer screens, there is nothing more than ZTZ-56/69 cast turret based on T-54/55 series. Primitive and simple protection that is inefficent against any more capable shaped charge warhead.
Clear Photo..
All composite armors are by nature modular or semi-modular, it is because they are made from two elements, the base turret structure with attachements for armor modules with composite armor filler or cavitiesfor composite armor filler, in both solutions, armor repair or replacement is easy, if filler is not integral part of turret structure, like on some soviet tanks.
Because of short penetrator, they use the same, not modified autoloader as Chinese tanks and older T-72 variants.
This is obviously not truth.
As above, how You can notice any hole after penetration, when such hole is such small that You can barely put there, tip of a pencile?
But it is just the same turret, only that of Al Zarrar recived some upgrades and outer screen layer, that changes it's visual apparence, but as we can see, under the screen, there is just the same, cast turret.compare al zarar turret armour upgrade with this bare turret t59
than it means the major rank officer was lying?This perfectly shows, that under very thin outer screens, there is nothing more than ZTZ-56/69 cast turret based on T-54/55 series. Primitive and simple protection that is inefficent against any more capable shaped charge warhead.
All composite armors are by nature modular or semi-modular, it is because they are made from two elements, the base turret structure with attachements for armor modules with composite armor filler or cavitiesfor composite armor filler, in both solutions, armor repair or replacement is easy, if filler is not integral part of turret structure, like on some soviet tanks.
Because of short penetrator, they use the same, not modified autoloader as Chinese tanks and older T-72 variants.
This is obviously not truth.
And it seems Your knowledge is complete 0. Holes in armor made by shaped charge jet are very, very small, especially the ones from RPG's, on such photos it is immposible to see such holes.
Maybe first educate yourself, before You start spreading nonsense.
As above, how You can notice any hole after penetration, when such hole is such small that You can barely put there, tip of a pencile?
As I said, educate Yourself, because Your knowledge is in fact primitive, and full of false belife that your military scientific industry represent something more than a primitive level. Al Zarrar have primitive, simple spaced armor, You can delude yourself that it is opposite, but all clues and sources, seems to prove my opinion.
So You just talk the same nonsense as repairing the burn out tank, which is immposible without remelting it and in fact building new vehicle.
But it is just the same turret, only that of Al Zarrar recived some upgrades and outer screen layer, that changes it's visual apparence, but as we can see, under the screen, there is just the same, cast turret.
Once again, educate yourself.
@farhan_9909
If You think that copy paste from some silly, unreliable sources will make any effect on me, or anyone with knowledge about tanks, then You are wrong... but please, continue, this is entertaining and amusing to see amateur at work.
I start to understand Indians opinion about Pakistanis.
Yes, or he is just poorly akowledged with this issue. I seen many silly fantasies made by military personell, despite respect for them, they are not nececary specialists in many terms when it comes to military technology, they know how to use it, but majority of them are just not interested in all details.
I do not need to inspect a tank, to know what happend. In this case we have a hit on a tank, we know what armament and ammunition for it is used and how it is stored inside vehicle, vehicle started to burn, definetly ammunition deflagrated, and temperature of flames was so high that it melted everything that it could and make enough structural damage to torsion bars that suspension just collapsed.
The only ignorant here is You. Ignorance is typical for people poorly educated in discussed subject.
This incident is evident that insurgents had no problems in at least disabling tank. And Al Zarrar by all world class standards is just simple modernization of obsolete tank. It seems that only You are excited in primitive modernization of obsolete tank.
You are overestimating your own capabilities, it is the first step to loose any war.
We will see.
This is a intellectual debate on tanks and mainly there limitation which should be taken by no mean in political sense..
Every one does, Even US & Russian and others..
But Your army plays with soldiers life, exactly because it's waste money on Al Zarrar and Al Khalid, instead for example to work closely with Ukraine by purchase of more T-80UD, or more modern T-84 or T-84M Oplot. Simple as that.
and who told you say?
It is just pure logic.
It is not truth, especially in terms of armor protection.
IMHO national pride propaganda, typical for countries with inferiority complex.
And You think this makes it better than T-80UD?
They can manufacture T-80UD, T-84 and T-84 Oplot series, the only issue to solve is money.
Nothing strange, Ukrainians have on of the best tank designing bureaus around the world, they are even better than Russians, after all Kharkiv was one of the most, if not the most innovative designing bureaus in Soviet Union.
No, it is because I'am talking with poor educated person, who does not even know, about what I'am talking about.
I don't care if You produce something locally, You can even clone elephants, it is not important, important is turret geometry, and no, You can't place more ERA, because turret geometry do not permitts this.
Well seems that obvious things are not obvious for You?
Size of a turret is not important, in fact what is important is placement and thickness of composite armor. In Al Khalid composite armor is only on the turret front, while highly exposed at the frontal arc, side turret surfaces are only protected by thin RHA armor, just like on Chinese tanks.
1) Nonsense,
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