AK-203 Scrap

[Super Flanker]

Buddy u r comparing 39 and 51 calibre bullets u should know the firepower difference and with bare eyes 51 calibre bullets provide more range then 39 calibre
That's science
Sorry to say are u seriously comparing a rifle with snipers
U seriously need to read a lot
Don't take it wrongly

My friend, I have never done a comparison of 39 and 51 calibre, I am saying that any gun at its maximum range will be effective only with a good sight or else it is mostly spraying bullets at those ranges without hitting anything. At those ranges, 300 meters and more, you need to have a scope like this :-

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And if you are going to engage an enemy at close ranges (say 100 meters) than you need to have a holographic, red dot or Iron sight.

Sorry to say are u seriously comparing a rifle with snipers
U seriously need to read a lot
Don't take it wrongly

You have understood what I am trying to say there, I have never compared a rifle with a Sniper, I only said that at long ranges, Snipers are the ones which you should use to hit targets. Snipers can hit targets which are atleast 1000 meters+ with precision. You need to have a good scope as well though. So I have not compared AR and sniper. You got me wrong. And coming to my knowledge of any firearm, yes I am a noob.

breh lol.

800 m is the max range on the sight leaf. Not the max practical range.

Practical range is 300-400 without optics, and 400-500 with good optics.

As an example, for Kar 98 K, the markings on the sight leaf extend to 2000 m. Which rifleman, do you think, is making 2000 m shots using iron sights?

I confirmed it later. I don't understand why Wikipedia was saying that the maximum Firing Range is 800 Meters. (Lol)

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

My friend, I have never done a comparison of 39 and 51 calibre, I am saying that any gun at its maximum range will be effective only with a good sight or else it is mostly spraying bullets at those ranges without hitting anything. At those ranges, 300 meters and more, you need to have a scope like this :-
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-:-
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And if you are going to engage an enemy at close ranges (say 100 meters) than you need to have a holographic, red dot or sight.


You have understood what I am trying to say there, I have never compared a rifle with a Sniper, I only said that at long ranges, Snipers are the ones which you should use to hit targets. Snipers can hit targets which are atleast 1000 meters+ with precision. You need to have a good scope as well though. So I have not compared AR and sniper. You got me wrong. And coming to my knowledge of any firearm, yes I am a noob.


I confirmed it later. I don't understand why Wikipedia was saying that the maximum Firing Range is 800 Meters. (Lol)

Wikipedia says a lot of stuff. As a wiki editor, I can confirm that our reliability is $hit.

 

[India Super Power]

My friend, I have never done a comparison of 39 and 51 calibre, I am saying that any gun at its maximum range will be effective only with a good sight or else it is mostly spraying bullets at those ranges without hitting anything. At those ranges, 300 meters and more, you need to have a scope like this :-
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-:-
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And if you are going to engage an enemy at close ranges (say 100 meters) than you need to have a holographic, red dot or Iron sight.


You have understood what I am trying to say there, I have never compared a rifle with a Sniper, I only said that at long ranges, Snipers are the ones which you should use to hit targets. Snipers can hit targets which are atleast 1000 meters+ with precision. You need to have a good scope as well though. So I have not compared AR and sniper. You got me wrong. And coming to my knowledge of any firearm, yes I am a noob.


I confirmed it later. I don't understand why Wikipedia was saying that the maximum Firing Range is 800 Meters. (Lol)

Yes bro we want to say that in effective range that 300-400 m 39 calibre will be less effective and inaccurate than 51 calibre
39 ones are very good and deadly accurate for short ranges be it 100-200 m
Problem here is of ballistics

 

[Super Flanker]

With extremely good sights on an extremely good rifle, max possible is 600m. But not with AK style sights, and not on an assault rifle. For that yeah, 300-400 is max.

At ranges like 500-600 meters +, I don't think so that any Soldier would use any AR in full auto mode. The recoil will be to much and you won't get many hits as the gun will be mostly spraying bullets all over the place. Modern Assault Rifles generally have 4 firing modes :

• 1. Safe
• 2.Semi-Automatic
• 3.Burst Automatic
• 4.Full Automatic

So if you are going to use an AR for long ranges than you need to use it in semi automatic or single firing mode.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

At ranges like 500-600 meters +, I don't think so that any Soldier would use any AR in full auto mode. The recoil will be to much and you won't get many hits as the gun will be mostly spraying bullets all over the place. Modern Assault Rifles generally have 4 firing modes :

• 1. Safe
• 2.Semi-Automatic
• 3.Burst Automatic
• 4.Full Automatic

So if you are going to use an AR for long ranges than you need to use it in semi automatic or single firing mode.

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Nah, can easily do. Put on a bipod and a scope, Lie down and shoot. No problem.

Also, no. Most rifles have 3 modes, safe, semi, then either burst or full auto. Very few rifles (like AK-12) have all four.

 

[Super Flanker]

Nah, can easily do. Put on a bipod and a scope, Lie down and shoot. No problem.

Also, no. Most rifles have 3 modes, safe, semi, then either burst or full auto. Very few rifles (like AK-12) have all four.

AK-203 which we will be getting will be having 2 main firing modes (automatic and semi-automatic) according to this article. It doesn't mention anything about a safe mode though.

EXPLAINED: Firepower Of AK-203 Rifles And The Shot In The Arm For Make In India - News18

The deal for the rifles had been held up over the issue of royalty payments, but it was reported in the run-up to the Indo-Russia meet that it had been resolved

www.news18.com

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

AK-203 which we will be getting will be having 2 main firing modes (automatic and semi-automatic) according to this article. It doesn't mention anything about a safe mode though.

EXPLAINED: Firepower Of AK-203 Rifles And The Shot In The Arm For Make In India - News18

The deal for the rifles had been held up over the issue of royalty payments, but it was reported in the run-up to the Indo-Russia meet that it had been resolved

www.news18.com

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[Super Flanker]

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Just kidding, it's obvious that a modern AR like AK-203/103/SiG-716 has a safe mode. The article was mentioning only about its firing mode and nothing else.

 

[India Super Power]

AK-203 which we will be getting will be having 2 main firing modes (automatic and semi-automatic) according to this article. It doesn't mention anything about a safe mode though.

EXPLAINED: Firepower Of AK-203 Rifles And The Shot In The Arm For Make In India - News18

The deal for the rifles had been held up over the issue of royalty payments, but it was reported in the run-up to the Indo-Russia meet that it had been resolved

www.news18.com

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The rifle you posted in pic is the one we are getting
Now compare it to Russian ak-203 which they advertise

 

[Super Flanker]

The rifle you posted in pic is the one we are getting
Now compare it to Russian ak-203 which they advertise

This is a photo of a Russian AK-203 :-

On the other hand, this is a photo of an AK-203 which India will be getting:-

So yes, I can notice the difference but I think so that the difference between the Indian and Russian is that Indian Army have themselves asked the Russians to make such modifications to suit their needs.

 

[NotASussyBoi]

Wasn't this the one we're getting

 

[NotASussyBoi]

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Wasn't this the one we're getting

he ak 103 with the piccy i believe was just some alpha model,not really final,the pic above might be too but considering its the latest pic,its safe to assume its the final

 

[Super Flanker]

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Wasn't this the one we're getting

Yes we are getting this same exact type of Ak-203 under the AK-203 deal. This image which I had posted showed the Indian AK-203 from the other side :-

Image posted by you, shows the AK-203 from another side.

 

[NotASussyBoi]

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Yes we are getting this same exact type of Ak-203 under the AK-203 deal. This image which I had posted showed the Indian AK-203 from the other side :-
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Image posted by you, shows the AK-203 from another side.

are bhai check the handguard

 

[NotASussyBoi]

the fire selector also had some easy selector feature but considering the ak 12 had problems with it it might be pure chutiya

 

[Super Flanker]

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are bhai check the handguard

They are the same thing bro, one side of the gun is a bit different as compared to the other side of the gun. Image posted by you shows the left side of the gun and image I posted showed it's right side. Don't Worry, they are the same thing.

 

[NotASussyBoi]

They are the same thing bro, one side of the gun is a bit different as compared to the other side of the gun. Image posted by you shows the left side of the gun and image I posted showed it's right side. Don't Worry, they are the same thing.

handguard is a big difference to me mate

 

[Super Flanker]

handguard is a big difference to me mate

Alright so I will ask you a question : Do you think that the image of the Indian AK-203 posted by me and the one posted by you is showing a different model of the rifle?

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

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Wasn't this the one we're getting

Same thing from other side buddy

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

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are bhai check the handguard

Its the same to me :/

the fire selector also had some easy selector feature but considering the ak 12 had problems with it it might be pure chutiya

Nah, its actually pretty good. I wanna see it our AKs.

AK 12 had problems cuz they made 4 modes, so the finger thingy hangs so low it covers the trigger. Not in AK203