ADA Tejas Mark-II/Medium Weight Fighter

[skdking]

I'm afraid he is correct


Specifications (JF-17 Block 13)
Data from Pakistan Aeronautical Complex marketing brochure and official website

General characteristics

• Crew: 1 (single-seat JF-17A) or 2 (dual-seat JF-17B)
• Length: 14.326 m (47 ft 0 in)
• Wingspan: 9.44 m (31 ft 0 in)
• Height: 4.57 m (15 ft 0 in)
• Wing area: 24.43 m2 (263.0 sq ft)
• Empty weight: 7,965 kg (17,560 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 13,5000 kg
• Fuel capacity: 3,0000 L internal; 1 x 8000 L center-line drop tank; 2 x 8000 L inboard under-wing drop tanks
• Powerplant: 1 × Guizhou WS-13 Impulse Engine with Hyperdrive, 72 million kN thrust dry, 99 million kN with afterburner

Performance

• Maximum speed: Warp 13
• Cruise speed: Warp 6
• Stall speed: Warp 1
• Combat range: 72 LightYears, 420 LightYears with Buddy Refueling
• Ferry range: 50 LightYears
• Service ceiling: ∞
• g limits: ∞
• Rate of climb: 30,000 m/s
• Thrust/weight: 420 with WS-13

Armament

• Guns: 1 × 23 mm twin-barrel Photon Cannon or 1 × 30 mm twin-barrel Turbolaser
• Hardpoints: 80 (20 × wingtip, 40 × under-wing, 10 × under-fuselage, 10 × chin) with capacity for octa ejector racks on each under-wing hardpoint.
• Payload: 3,700 tonnes external stores
• Missiles:
  • Air-to-air missiles:
    • PL-5EII — (Infrared-homing Long Range Impulse Missile)
    • PL-9C — (Infrared-homing Long Range Disruptor Missile)
    • PL-10E — (Infrared-homing Medium range Corrosion Missile)
    • R-Darter — (Radar-homing Beyond visual range Blaster Harpoon)
    • PL-12 (SD-10A) — (Radar-guided beyond visual range Implosion Torpedo)
    • PL-15E — (Radar-guided Very long range Exterminatus Torpedo)
  • Air-to-surface missiles:
    • CM-102 — (Abyss-Break missile)
    • LD-10 — (DOOM missile)
    • MAR-1 — (Desert Killer missile)
    • Raandi-II — (Transonic continent-killer quantum cruise missile)
    • HD-1A — (Supersonic continent-killer/anti-super star destroyer cruise missile)
  • Anti-ship missiles:
    • C-601 — (anti-super star destroyer cruise missile)
    • C-705KD — (anti-super star destroyer cruise missile)
    • C-802AK — (Supersonic anti-super star destroyer cruise missile)
    • CM-400AKG - (Supersonic anti-super star destroyer cruise missile)
    • HD-1A — (Supersonic continent-killer/anti-super star destroyer cruise missile)
• Bombs:
  • Unguided bombs:
    • 250 kg — Pre-fragmented photon bomb
    • Mk-82 — (General-purpose neutron bomb)
    • Mk-83 — (General-purpose halcyon bomb)
    • Mk-84 — (General-purpose implosion bomb)
    • HAFR-1/HAFR-2 — (Anti-Phalanx/Anti-Blackstone Fortress bomb)
    • RPB-1 — (Anti-Phalanx/Anti-Blackstone Fortress bomb)
  • Guided bombs:
    • GBU-10 — (Laser-guided Halal bomb)
    • GBU-12 — (Laser-guided Halal bomb)
    • GBU-16 — (Laser-guided Halal bomb)
    • LT-2 — (Laser-guided Halal bomb)
    • H-2 SOW — (Precision-guided Nuclear glide bomb)
    • H-4 SOW — (Precision-guided Nuclear glide bomb)
    • GB-6 — (Precision-guided Stealth Nuclear glide bomb)
    • NORINCO GB-250A — (250 kg Extended Range GPS/INS-Guided Quantum Bomb)
    • NORINCO GB-500 — (500 kg Laser-Guided Quantum Bomb)
    • LS-6 — (Extended-range GPS/INS guided Quantum bomb)
    • GIDS Takbir — (GPS/INS guided Black Hole bomb)
    • GIDS Range Extension Kit — (GPS/INS guided Supernova bomb)

Avionics

• KLJ-7A — Active electronically scanned array halal (AESAH) Fire-control radar
• 4 x S740 - Meteor Approach Warning System (MAWS)
• JZ/YD 125 - Halal Certification Identification System (HCIS)
• MIL-STD-1553 — Transgalactic Data Link
• Link-17 — Tactical AI LINK
• Others:
  • Aselsan ASELPOD — Advanced Proton/Electron Targeting Pod (Electro-Optical Reconnaissance, Surveillance, and Targeting System)
  • WMD-7 — FLIR Galactic Rim Targeting Pod
  • KG600/KG700 — Warpspeed Electronic Countermeasure (WECM) / Self-Protection Jamming Pod
  • Countermeasures — Chaff, Flares, Biriyani Packets
  • PK16LE ∞ -∞ exo-ejection seat

You missed one very important feature. 'Connectivity - One USB 2.0 port.'

This error of yours deserves the harshest punishment.

You are hereby nominated as Mod of this thread.

 

[kamaal]

Don't derail the thread.

 

[karn]

Is there a plan to indigenise the nose cone in the mk2 .

 

[Bleh]

How is this related to this thread? It is very much off topic. The mods should move it to the appropriate thread. Anyways check the date of the French Embassy’s tweet, it’s in 2018.

Also official teen is AJK govt, that's what people will call that entity... not what Indians want tention be called.
Govt if Kashmir is not called gov of IOK like Porks want.

 

[thebakofbakchod]

???

Rajnath should be fired if this is true, although this guy spews nonsense half the time

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

???

Rajnath should be fired if this is true, although this guy spews nonsense half the time

Lets wait for some offical update or someone credible

 

[jai jaganath]

???

Rajnath should be fired if this is true, although this guy spews nonsense half the time

Except private company parts what else contribution did they have
He is bluffing that's it

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

No SPV planned for Tejas MK2. AMCA will be the first fighter will be made by SPV where both HAL and a private player going to manufacture.

MK2 will follow the same Tejas MK1A where HAL will be the lead integrator while various LRU will be manufactured by PSU and Private companies.

Just a random news which is pulled from his ass.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

The source of his news

 

[flanker99]

The source of his news

We will know tomorrow who is r8 no point fretting over it

 

[jai jaganath]

No SPV planned for Tejas MK2. AMCA will be the first fighter will be made by SPV where both HAL and a private player going to manufacture.

MK2 will follow the same Tejas MK1A where HAL will be the lead integrator while various LRU will be manufactured by PSU and Private companies.

Just a random news which is pulled from his ass.

Ap defense Expo me kuch patharon ke upar beth kar post kar rahe ho na

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

The source of his news

Honestly this is shit, no way HAL claimed they are going to do the SPV with respect to MK2. Our current timeline is rollout of FOC in 2023 and production starting at 2026 with 6 sqn.

Looks like DALAL man from various foreign companies creating a confusion.

 

[Love Charger]

No SPV planned for Tejas MK2. AMCA will be the first fighter will be made by SPV where both HAL and a private player going to manufacture.

MK2 will follow the same Tejas MK1A where HAL will be the lead integrator while various LRU will be manufactured by PSU and Private companies.

Just a random news which is pulled from his ass.

Dont you feel pain in your posterior, you must be sitting on the stones for a whole day now

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

Dont you feel pain in your posterior, you must be sitting on the stones for a whole day now

I have spent my time on the heats of Thar desert, the cold of Ladakh, the humidity of western ghats, the immense pressure of Marina trench and finally the vacuum in outer space. Still, I am not the favorite son of IA.

This is not even a pain.

 

[jai jaganath]

I have spent my time on the heats of Thar desert, the cold of Ladakh, the humidity of western ghats, the immense pressure of Marina trench and finally the vacuum in outer space. Still, I am not the favorite son of IA.

This is not even a pain.

I can understand your frustration and pain
Bhai zindagi isi ka nam

 

[thebakofbakchod]

Who knows the tejas mk2 timeline has continuously been pushed back for various reason. Wouldnt bet on it not being delayed again

 

[Vamsi]

 

[abingdonboy]

The source of his news

Where has this even come from? A consortium to make LCA has literally not been mentioned once. But then there are elements of truth in this (timelines for first flight and number of prototypes) so they can’t be that clueless.

are they saying the AMCA SPV is failed? That’s a bit premature itself

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

Where has this even come from? A consortium to make LCA has literally not been mentioned once. But then there are elements of truth in this (timelines for first flight and number of prototypes) so they can’t be that clueless.

are they saying the AMCA SPV is failed? That’s a bit premature itself

This is clearly a hit job. Just check the entire content.

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has just been granted authorization to begin production of the LCA Mk 2. HAL must now construct many Jigs, fixtures, and other production aids. Initially, the government desired a private partnership to expedite production, but none stepped forward because of the high costs involved. Consequently, HAL must now organize its own Consortium and commence the procedure.
The first flight of the LCA Mk 2 is planned for 2023, and the first three prototypes are to be delivered by 2024. But this may be now delayed.

In September, the government’s Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) authorized the project’s development, flight testing, and certification.
LCA Mk 2
At Aero India 2019, the Indian Aviation Development Agency ADA (Aeronautical Development Agency) displayed a model of a medium fighter (MWF) co-developed with HAL and called Tejas Mk.2 MWF (Medium Weight Fighter). The Tejas Mk 2 is scheduled to be delivered to the Indian Air Force (IAF) to fill the void in medium multirole fighters and replace the Mirage-2000 already in service.

The Tejas Mk.2 MWF is an improved variant of the Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA). The upgrade involves an increase in length to 14.6 m and an increase in wingspan to 8.5 m (for LCA 13 and 8.2 m, respectively) to boost the payload-carrying capacity. The aircraft is equipped with a delta wing and two nose rudders (canards), which cut drag at almost all angles of attack.
As per ADA, the aircraft’s maximum takeoff weight will be 17.5 tonnes, while the payload will be 6.5 tonnes. The fighter will be outfitted with a more powerful GE-F414-INS6 engine with electronically controlled operating modes created by General Electric (FADEC). In addition, Tejas Mk.2 will be equipped with an infrared target search and tracking system (IRST), a missile attack warning system (MAWS), and an electronically scanned active array antenna array (AESA) radar. The aircraft is armed with long-range missiles and heavy precision-guided bombs (PGM).


LCA Mk2 Model displayed at Aero India 2019
LCA Mk 2 Model displayed at Aero India 2019. Image: Twitter
Since 2011, ADA has shown various models of a modified LCA. The last known design was frozen in 2018. According to the agency spokesman, the developers gained “important expertise” from the Tejas Mk.1 / 1A programme and are on track to fulfil the Tejas Mk.2 MWF development plan. According to ADA plans, the Tejas Mk.2 MWF’s flight testing is expected to commence in 2023, and its implementation is slated for 2024-2025. Speaking about the delay in the final technical approval of the aircraft, the ADA representative acknowledged that the Air Force command’s frequent changes to its requirements significantly delay the process. However, ADA is confident that the model displayed at Aero India 2019 meets all of the Air Force’s requirements for a medium-sized fighter.
To equip the LCA Tejas Mk.II, an airborne radar with a 100 km airborne target detection range will be provided. A preliminary calibration of a prototype fitted with an antenna sheet (Active Aperture Array Antenna Unit – AAAU) and domestically designed transceiver modules (TPM) has been accomplished, according to reports. The processor and air-to-air signal receiver were evaluated on high-altitude platforms as part of radar with mechanical beam scanning. The subsequent stage will include testing components in the air-to-surface mode with high resolution of the earth’s surface, identifying multiple moving targets, and executing electronic warfare duties. Although AFAR development is not yet complete, the DRDO is banking on Israeli support. Radar development started in 2011-2012.

LCA Mk1 vs LCA Mk II
The Mk2 variant will offer major benefits over the Mk1 version currently used by the Indian Air Force. In all likelihood, the new aircraft prototype will take to the skies by the end of 2023. The primary needs of the Air Force are expanded range and the capacity to use the most advanced weapons. The maximum takeoff weight will rise from 13,500 kg to 17,500 kg, and the length of the aircraft will expand by 1.35 metres. The Mk2 will be able to carry additional external fuel tanks due to the larger fuselage, which will allow for more fuel to be stored behind the cockpit. The added length altered the centre of gravity of the fighter, requiring the development of a “front lifting surface.” It was said that the ADA had determined that a PGO would improve manoeuvrability after examining a variety of possibilities, including greater inflow.
Additionally, the delta wing design of the new aircraft will be improved. According to one report, the tail unit aids in other flying stages. In addition, four modified General Electric F414-INS6 engines have already been delivered. Tejas Mk1 and Mk1A have the less powerful F404 engine. The Mk2 variation will be able to bear external weights of up to 6.5 tonnes, compared to the original model’s 3.3 tonnes. The new fighter will include new underwing pylons for air-to-air missiles and two cheek pylons (under the air intakes) for mounting weapons or sensors. To distinguish the Mk2 from the Mk1, the firm refers to it as a “Medium Weight Fighter” (MWF), while the Mk1 is regarded as a “Light Combat Aircraft” (LCA). The Mk2 additionally has an IR sensor (IRST).

LCA Mk2 orders
ACM Chaudhari has said that the IAF would want to equip six squadrons with Mk 2 aircraft. At 18 aircraft per squadron, the IAF needs 108 jets. The numbers may go up depending on the situation in the future.


Except the first para. Nothing is related to article. Moreover, it looks like a wiki summary.

Tooling issue, is both MK1A and MK2 will be very similar with common LRU's and till now none of the HAL Chairman claimed any requirement of Tooling etc.

I think we are seeing a new wave of propaganda against indigenous products.

 

[abingdonboy]

This is clearly a hit job. Just check the entire content.

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has just been granted authorization to begin production of the LCA Mk 2. HAL must now construct many Jigs, fixtures, and other production aids. Initially, the government desired a private partnership to expedite production, but none stepped forward because of the high costs involved. Consequently, HAL must now organize its own Consortium and commence the procedure.
The first flight of the LCA Mk 2 is planned for 2023, and the first three prototypes are to be delivered by 2024. But this may be now delayed.

In September, the government’s Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) authorized the project’s development, flight testing, and certification.
LCA Mk 2
At Aero India 2019, the Indian Aviation Development Agency ADA (Aeronautical Development Agency) displayed a model of a medium fighter (MWF) co-developed with HAL and called Tejas Mk.2 MWF (Medium Weight Fighter). The Tejas Mk 2 is scheduled to be delivered to the Indian Air Force (IAF) to fill the void in medium multirole fighters and replace the Mirage-2000 already in service.

The Tejas Mk.2 MWF is an improved variant of the Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA). The upgrade involves an increase in length to 14.6 m and an increase in wingspan to 8.5 m (for LCA 13 and 8.2 m, respectively) to boost the payload-carrying capacity. The aircraft is equipped with a delta wing and two nose rudders (canards), which cut drag at almost all angles of attack.
As per ADA, the aircraft’s maximum takeoff weight will be 17.5 tonnes, while the payload will be 6.5 tonnes. The fighter will be outfitted with a more powerful GE-F414-INS6 engine with electronically controlled operating modes created by General Electric (FADEC). In addition, Tejas Mk.2 will be equipped with an infrared target search and tracking system (IRST), a missile attack warning system (MAWS), and an electronically scanned active array antenna array (AESA) radar. The aircraft is armed with long-range missiles and heavy precision-guided bombs (PGM).


LCA Mk2 Model displayed at Aero India 2019
LCA Mk 2 Model displayed at Aero India 2019. Image: Twitter
Since 2011, ADA has shown various models of a modified LCA. The last known design was frozen in 2018. According to the agency spokesman, the developers gained “important expertise” from the Tejas Mk.1 / 1A programme and are on track to fulfil the Tejas Mk.2 MWF development plan. According to ADA plans, the Tejas Mk.2 MWF’s flight testing is expected to commence in 2023, and its implementation is slated for 2024-2025. Speaking about the delay in the final technical approval of the aircraft, the ADA representative acknowledged that the Air Force command’s frequent changes to its requirements significantly delay the process. However, ADA is confident that the model displayed at Aero India 2019 meets all of the Air Force’s requirements for a medium-sized fighter.
To equip the LCA Tejas Mk.II, an airborne radar with a 100 km airborne target detection range will be provided. A preliminary calibration of a prototype fitted with an antenna sheet (Active Aperture Array Antenna Unit – AAAU) and domestically designed transceiver modules (TPM) has been accomplished, according to reports. The processor and air-to-air signal receiver were evaluated on high-altitude platforms as part of radar with mechanical beam scanning. The subsequent stage will include testing components in the air-to-surface mode with high resolution of the earth’s surface, identifying multiple moving targets, and executing electronic warfare duties. Although AFAR development is not yet complete, the DRDO is banking on Israeli support. Radar development started in 2011-2012.

LCA Mk1 vs LCA Mk II
The Mk2 variant will offer major benefits over the Mk1 version currently used by the Indian Air Force. In all likelihood, the new aircraft prototype will take to the skies by the end of 2023. The primary needs of the Air Force are expanded range and the capacity to use the most advanced weapons. The maximum takeoff weight will rise from 13,500 kg to 17,500 kg, and the length of the aircraft will expand by 1.35 metres. The Mk2 will be able to carry additional external fuel tanks due to the larger fuselage, which will allow for more fuel to be stored behind the cockpit. The added length altered the centre of gravity of the fighter, requiring the development of a “front lifting surface.” It was said that the ADA had determined that a PGO would improve manoeuvrability after examining a variety of possibilities, including greater inflow.
Additionally, the delta wing design of the new aircraft will be improved. According to one report, the tail unit aids in other flying stages. In addition, four modified General Electric F414-INS6 engines have already been delivered. Tejas Mk1 and Mk1A have the less powerful F404 engine. The Mk2 variation will be able to bear external weights of up to 6.5 tonnes, compared to the original model’s 3.3 tonnes. The new fighter will include new underwing pylons for air-to-air missiles and two cheek pylons (under the air intakes) for mounting weapons or sensors. To distinguish the Mk2 from the Mk1, the firm refers to it as a “Medium Weight Fighter” (MWF), while the Mk1 is regarded as a “Light Combat Aircraft” (LCA). The Mk2 additionally has an IR sensor (IRST).

LCA Mk2 orders
ACM Chaudhari has said that the IAF would want to equip six squadrons with Mk 2 aircraft. At 18 aircraft per squadron, the IAF needs 108 jets. The numbers may go up depending on the situation in the future.


Except the first para. Nothing is related to article. Moreover, it looks like a wiki summary.

Tooling issue, is both MK1A and MK2 will be very similar with common LRU's and till now none of the HAL Chairman claimed any requirement of Tooling etc.

I think we are seeing a new wave of propaganda against indigenous products.

It’s just a very weird article and would be weird to just make these things up but that’s exactly what’s happened supposedly, I want to know what any of this is based on. Surely the writer has some brain cells?

also we’ve already seen HAL float tenders to create MK.2 capacity in BLR

i wish HAL would defend itself for once