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Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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Have the quartz radomes been delivered by Cobham?
I think the radomes and IFR probes have been delivered probably integration and testing might have also been completed or on the verge of being complete but if we going to change from MMR to AESA 2052 then i think integration and testing have to be redone.
 

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Details by Ajay Sukla on Bahrain International Air Show.

Two Tejas fighters will fly to Bahrain for the air show on January 21-23. These fighters, along with three pilots, are already at an air base in Gujarat, practising their routine in sea level conditions akin to Bahrain. In mid-January, they will fly to Muscat, and then to Bahrain.

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2016/01/tejas-team-to-present-best-ever.html?m=1
 

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India’s home-grown Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) might never fire a shot in anger at its Pakistani counterpart, the JF-17 Thunder. Yet, the Tejas is already squaring off against the JF-17. When the Indian fighter performs aerobatics at the forthcoming Bahrain International Air Show international aviation experts will directly compare it with the JF-17, which flew at the Paris Air Show in July.

The Tejas team is geared up to impress the experts in its international debut. Business Standard learns that theAeronautical Development Agency (ADA), which oversees the Tejas’ development, has put together a flying routine that “significantly surpasses any aerobatics display the fighter has presented earlier.”

“So far, we have always flown with large safety margins in hand. At Bahrain, we will show the spectators what the Tejas can really do, how much energy the fighter has”, says an ADA official closely associated with the preparations.

The “Made-for Bahrain” display routine will test the Tejas’ limits in vertical climbs, high-speed runs, tight turns and the fighter’s slow flying ability.

With the flight-test programme having recently cleared the Tejas for 8G turns (which create stresses on the aircraft that are eight times the force of gravity), the performance at Bahrain will include two 8G turns in front of the display stand. “We do not intend to return to India feeling we could have done more. Aerospace experts will scrutinise every performance, and recordings of these, over succeeding months. We hope to make it worth their while,” says the ADA official.

Two Tejas fighters will fly to Bahrain for the air show on January 21-23. These fighters, along with three pilots, are already at an air base in Gujarat, practising their routine in sea level conditions akin to Bahrain. In mid-January, they will fly to Muscat, and then to Bahrain.

Air show performances serve various aims. Some displays are structured to entertain spectators with spectacular, but technically easy, flying. Others emphasise pilots’ skills, such as close-flying displays. The Tejas, however, will present a “product demonstration”, which showcases for potential customers the performance aspects that make it a good combat aircraft – such as the ability to climb quickly and turn tightly.

“A good ‘product demonstration’ must translate dry capability statistics into actual flying performance that makes an impact on potential customers”, explains a veteran test pilot. As the Tejas has passed performance milestones in a flight-test programme that began in 2001, it has flown and climbed faster and turned tighter, transforming the sedate “flying displays” of the mid-2000s into today’s exhilarating aerobatics.

Tejas pilots and ADA officials are confident the fighter will bear the stress of edge-of-the-envelope flying for several weeks. “The Tejas is often criticised for being too heavy. But that also makes it a structurally strong aircraft, with plenty of reserve strength to push the performance envelope,” says a veteran Tejas test pilot.

While the Tejas aims to entertain the spectators, and enthuse the aerospace analysts, the primary intention of featuring it at Bahrain is for evaluation by prospective buyers, who study recordings of air show performances.

“Big aerospace corporations like Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Dassault have in-house media teams, which produce high-quality, professional recordings of their aircrafts’ performances. ADA is handicapped in this respect”, rues an official.

The JF-17 Thunder, which already equips three squadrons of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), enjoys a lead of several years over the Tejas. Numerous press reports suggest that Sri Lanka has asked to buy the fighter, although Colombo denies this.

The JF-17 has also been more visible internationally. It debuted in 2010 in a static display at the Farnborough Air Show in the UK, and has flown in several air shows, most recently at Paris in July 2015.

However, the fourth-generation Tejas is technologically superior to the third-generation JF-17. Built of composite materials, the Tejas is more manoeuvrable, has better avionics and can carry more fuel and weapons. Eventually, however, customers seek assured production and delivery, and in that the JF-17 is ahead. Pakistan’s Kamra factory has already delivered 66 fighters to the PAF, assembled for the most part with Chinese components. Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd has delivered only a single Tejas to the Indian Air Force.
 

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LCA has some superior attributes compared to JF 17, LCA has good potential to be an advance fighter jet.

Add stealth and other advanced features ... we have a single engine 5th gen fighter aircraft ready to be exported.
 

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I heard Tejas pull 8g, Gud that is ..
Certainly has, Kunal ji. Atleast according to IDRW.

http://idrw.org/tejas-pilots-pull-8-g-and-beyond-clearing-critical-foc-point/

You could say I've been waiting for this to happen for quite some years. However the article fails to mention if the limit was achieved with or without a combat load (or a load akin to that). If it can manage 8g only with a clean load (no weapons, LDPs or fuel tanks) then it won't mean much as with a full load the tolerance can be lower than that.
 

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Certainly has, Kunal ji. Atleast according to IDRW.

http://idrw.org/tejas-pilots-pull-8-g-and-beyond-clearing-critical-foc-point/

You could say I've been waiting for this to happen for quite some years. However the article fails to mention if the limit was achieved with or without a combat load (or a load akin to that). If it can manage 8g only with a clean load (no weapons, LDPs or fuel tanks) then it won't mean much as with a full load the tolerance can be lower than that.
good point, persnaally i feel it might be w/o weapons load, but hey i can be easily wrong..can the seniors advise
 

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good point, persnaally i feel it might be w/o weapons load, but hey i can be easily wrong..can the seniors advise
Well, it's in testing and apparently it's the first time it pulled it off so it's logical to assume it would be done with a clean load.
 

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Tejas team to present "best ever aerobatics at Bahrain

By Ajai Shukla
Business Standard, 10th Jan 15

India’s home-grown Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) might never fire a shot in anger at its Pakistani counterpart, the JF-17 Thunder. Yet, the Tejas is already squaring off against the JF-17. When the Indian fighter performs aerobatics at the forthcoming Bahrain International Air Show (BIAS) international aviation experts will directly compare it with the JF-17, which flew at the Paris Air Show in July.

The Tejas team is geared up to impress the experts in its international debut. Business Standard learns that the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), which oversees the Tejas’ development, has put together a flying routine that “significantly surpasses any aerobatics display the fighter has presented earlier.”

“So far, we have always flown with large safety margins in hand. At Bahrain, we will show the spectators what the Tejas can really do, how much energy the fighter has”, says an ADA official closely associated with the preparations.

The “Made-for Bahrain” display routine will test the Tejas’ limits in vertical climbs, high-speed runs, tight turns and the fighter’s slow flying ability.

With the flight-test programme having recently cleared the Tejas for 8G turns (which create stresses on the aircraft that are eight times the force of gravity), the performance at Bahrain will include two 8G turns in front of the display stand.

“We do not intend to return to India feeling we could have done more. Aerospace experts will scrutinise every performance, and recordings of these, over succeeding months. We hope to make it worth their while,” says the ADA official.

Two Tejas fighters will fly to Bahrain for the air show on January 21-23. These fighters, along with three pilots, are already at an air base in Gujarat, practising their routine in sea level conditions akin to Bahrain. In mid-January, they will fly to Muscat, and then to Bahrain.

Air show performances serve various aims. Some displays are structured to entertain spectators with spectacular, but technically easy, flying. Others emphasise pilots’ skills, such as close-flying displays. The Tejas, however, will present a “product demonstration”, which showcases for potential customers the performance aspects that make it a good combat aircraft --- such as the ability to climb quickly and turn tightly.

“A good ‘product demonstration’ must translate dry capability statistics into actual flying performance that makes an impact on potential customers”, explains a veteran test pilot.

As the Tejas has passed performance milestones in a flight-test programme that began in 2001, it has flown and climbed faster and turned tighter, transforming the sedate “flying displays” of the mid-2000s into today’s exhilarating aerobatics.

Tejas pilots and ADA officials are confident the fighter will bear the stress of edge-of-the-envelope flying for several weeks. “The Tejas is often criticised for being too heavy. But that also makes it a structurally strong aircraft, with plenty of reserve strength to push the performance envelope,” says a veteran Tejas test pilot.

While the Tejas aims to entertain the spectators, and enthuse the aerospace analysts, the primary intention of featuring it at Bahrain is for evaluation by prospective buyers, who study recordings of air show performances.

“Big aerospace corporations like Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Dassault have in-house media teams, which produce high-quality, professional recordings of their aircrafts’ performances. ADA is handicapped in this respect”, rues an official.

The JF-17 Thunder, which already equips three squadrons of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), enjoys a lead of several years over the Tejas. Numerous press reports suggest that Sri Lanka has asked to buy the fighter, although Colombo denies this.

The JF-17 has also been more visible internationally. It debuted in 2010 in a static display at the Farnborough Air Show in the UK, and has flown in several air shows, most recently at Paris in July 2015.

However, the fourth-generation Tejas is technologically superior to the third-generation JF-17. Built of composite materials, the Tejas is more manoeuvrable, has better avionics and can carry more fuel and weapons.


Eventually, however, customers seek assured production and delivery, and in that the JF-17 is ahead. Pakistan’s Kamra factory has already delivered 66 fighters to the PAF, assembled for the most part with Chinese components. Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd has delivered only a single Tejas to the Indian Air Force.

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/
 

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yaar mk2 pe to kaam chalu hua hai nahi dhang se. mk1 pe jugaad kar ke uska standard badha rahe hain. AMCA ke sapne kyu dekh rahe ho bhailog?

i agree with @garg_bharat , as long as HAL keeps its standard of lethargy and private sector is kept out, we won't be seeing a rapid pace of weapon development.
 

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Each leg is 800 miles!
817 Miles from Bangalore to Jamnagar and
743 miles from Jamnagar to Muscat.
520 miles from Muscat to Sakhir Airbase

Assuming Tejas is flying by itself, I like the ferry range it has.
Is it with OR without Drop tanks ?
 

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Is it with OR without Drop tanks ?
Most likely with drop tanks. (They might not actually drop those tanks.)
I think what they will do is this:

Mumbai - Muscat - Bahrain

Mumbai to Muscat can be done using drop tanks. The Distance from Mumbai to Muscat is still slightly more than LCA's range with drop tanks. Perhaps using larger drop tanks will solve the challenge. If this does not work, then in-flight refueling can be used.

If nothing works, it will have to be loaded onto a ship and transported.
So my guess about Muscat was correct. Instead of Mumbai, the point of departure from India will be Jamnagar.
 

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http://www.livefistdefence.com/2016/01/next-tejas-milestone-bvr-missile-firing.html

Next Tejas Milestone: Derby BVR Missile Firing By March

As the laboured final stretch of India's LCA Tejas trudges on, there's a final milestone on the, well, horizon. A Tejas fighter with a fully integrated multi-mode radar and new quartz radome is all set to fire its first BVR missile off the coast of Goa -- Livefist can confirm it will be a Rafael Systems Derby (mock-ups pictured above last year). As reported earlier by Livefist, the Derby has been signed on as a stopgap in the event that the indigenous Astra doesn't enter the field of play in time. More details on this upcoming test soon.

The real wait, of course, is for the Tejas to begin carriage and firing tests of the in-development Astra, which has already been fired a few times from an IAF Su-30MKI.
 

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Each leg is 800 miles!
817 Miles from Bangalore to Jamnagar and
743 miles from Jamnagar to Muscat.
520 miles from Muscat to Sakhir Airbase

Assuming Tejas is flying by itself, I like the ferry range it has.
Earlier I had read some news regarding Tejas. It flew to Jamnagar from Banglore and than performed some IOC maneuver in single fill of kerosene. One scientist told that it has an envying fuel efficiency. This will improve when we carry out proposed aerodynamic changes.
 

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LCA-Tejas Cleared for BVRAAM Trials

http://idrw.org/lca-tejas-cleared-for-bvraam-trials/

According to well-informed sources close to idrw.org, Integration of Elta’s EL/M-2032 fire control radar on Tejas MK-1 with Israeli supplied beyond-visual-range missile (BVR) Derby air-to-air missile has been completed.

Derby BVRAAM is a medium-range active radar seeker air-to-air missile, that can hit targets at about 50 km. away. Missiles that can achieve this range are known by the acronym BVR – beyond visual range. Derby BVR-AAM missile, developed by Israel’s Rafael Advanced Defence Systems Ltd (RADSL) will be ready for test firing from Tejas MK-1 fighter jet right before the deadline for FOC Certification ends in March 2016 Said informed Sources.

Derby BVR-AAM missile is already a tried and tested weapon system which at present are been equipped on Indian Navies Sea Harriers Jump jets and will be used till Indigenously developed Astra BVR-AAM completes its Developmental trials and is cleared for production on LCA-Tejas.

Last year Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd on sidelines of Paris Airshow 2015 unveiled new long-range air-to-air missile I-Derby ER BVRAAM, this new addition increases the range of the I-Derby ER beyond 100 km, significantly more than its current “short/medium” range capability.

New I-Derby Extended Range (ER) BVRAAM has been offered to India for the next generation LCA Tejas (MK-1A/ MK-2) / AMCA aircraft and will require minimal integration time as per company spokesperson with existing aircraft already cleared for older Derby missiles.
 

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I read on BR that some forum member observed tejas doing tight Horzantal looping in less than 20 second and vertical loop in 18 second. I believe that now GSQR in this area are met.
 

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WTF???? Maarkhoor got 26+ve rating?
Man he is hard core troller.
It is better if all indian members move to IDF. If IDF managers make some changes and make this more user friendly than I am sure that many more people will join IDF.
 

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It is better if all indian members move to IDF. If IDF managers make some changes and make this more user friendly than I am sure that many more people will join IDF.
It is DFI. IDF is another Indian Forum.
IDF looks beautiful and fascinating like Chinese Forum.
 
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