ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[HariPrasad-1]

LCA has some superior attributes compared to JF 17, LCA has good potential to be an advance fighter jet.

Add stealth and other advanced features ... we have a single engine 5th gen fighter aircraft ready to be exported.

LCA can not be compared with that sheet Junk fighter. It is a copy of Mig 21 with lesser capability as a platform. Tejas will out class this outdated junk fighter in all the parameters.

 

[Batfan]

LCA can not be compared with that sheet Junk fighter. It is a copy of Mig 21 with lesser capability as a platform. Tejas will out class this outdated junk fighter in all the parameters.

But paki fanboys will never accept that untill in a combat situation. Then too they will find some reason how their "4+ gen fighter" somehow lost.

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[salute]

LCA can not be compared with that sheet Junk fighter. It is a copy of Mig 21 with lesser capability as a platform. Tejas will out class this outdated junk fighter in all the parameters.

jf also got copied f-16 design to make it look like modern jet.

 

[DFI_COAS]

I have a bad feeling that our Tejas is going to crash on Bahrain Air show. Hope it will never happen!

 

[Batfan]

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/new-...-indian-manufacturers-to-get-priority-1264595

Def minister changes procurement rule; Indian equipments to be given priority

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[Batfan]

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/new-...-indian-manufacturers-to-get-priority-1264595

Def minister changes procurement rule; Indian equipments to be given priority

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Seems to be promising

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[akshay m]

I have a bad feeling that our Tejas is going to crash on Bahrain Air show. Hope it will never happen!

why do you say that, why should something that has not crashed , not even come come close to that scenario ,crash.
any technical points on why it might crash,
what do you base your feelings on.
did you pull out your feeling out of some daydream??
why so pessimistiic,

@pmaitra , since when did DFI start allowing people to post their feelings without any technical base to it
and that too apocalyptic statements like this

call me supersticious,but now i will have no peace of mind until the behrain airshow is over and the three aircraft are back safely in india

was looking forward to it but because of this..........................................

 

[salute]

I have a bad feeling that our Tejas is going to crash on Bahrain Air show. Hope it will never happen!

why do you say that, why should something that has not crashed , not even come come close to that scenario ,crash.
any technical points on why it might crash,
what do you base your feelings on.
did you pull out your feeling out of some daydream??
why so pessimistiic,

@pmaitra , since when did DFI start allowing people to post their feelings without any technical base to it
and that too apocalyptic statements like this

call me supersticious,but now i will have no peace of mind until the behrain airshow is over and the three aircraft are back safely in india

was looking forward to it but because of this..........................................

just be glad neither one of you is lca pilot,

jk,

although pilots are superstitious.

 

[cannonfodder]

http://idrw.org/lca-tejas-cleared-for-bvraam-trials/

Radar integration is over. Seems we are seeing good progress towards FOC for tejas now.

According to well-informed sources close to idrw.org, Integration of Elta’s EL/M-2032 fire control radar on Tejas MK-1 with Israeli supplied beyond-visual-range missile (BVR) Derby air-to-air missile has been completed.

Derby BVRAAM is a medium-range active radar seeker air-to-air missile, that can hit targets at about 50 km. away. Missiles that can achieve this range are known by the acronym BVR – beyond visual range. Derby BVR-AAM missile, developed by Israel’s Rafael Advanced Defence Systems Ltd (RADSL) will be ready for test firing from Tejas MK-1 fighter jet right before the deadline for FOC Certification ends in March 2016 Said informed Sources.
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[pmaitra]

@pmaitra , since when did DFI start allowing people to post their feelings without any technical base to it
and that too apocalyptic statements like this

Tell me, what am I supposed to do here?

 

[indiatester]

Tell me, what am I supposed to do here?

Send him to Indian Science Congress to learn science and not superstition.
Wait.......

 

[akshay m]

Send him to Indian Science Congress to learn science and not superstition.
Wait.......

i know my science well,though i am no engineer, i am a medical student.

as to what i was saying

other reputed forums like BRF or SDF do not allow posters to post their feelings unless they are experts in that feild , or they have a technical proof of the possibility of a crash, and giving links, articles, facts to prove their point, here we see someone just saying that a plane with 3038 flight and no history of such an incident will crash at the airshow,


if he has a feeling that something will happen , he has to explain why he has that feeling,
and not give a oneliner blurb

in those forums at least an informal warning would have been given

allowing people to post their nightmares and daydreams and allowing them to go scot free will create a bad precedent.
we will one day have people saying that the earth is flat, because they have a feeling

in the past DFI was more stricter about these .

as for the superstitious part , i meant to say it as a joke................

a lot of well educated people suffer from phobias .
phobias are irrational,many of the people who suffer from phobias know that their fears are irrational,
will sending them them to the Indian Science Congress help??

 

[ersakthivel]

A LOT Of people who spewed venom on tejas mk1 are now awaiting "French kiss"

 

[ersakthivel]

I have a bad feeling that our Tejas is going to crash on Bahrain Air show. Hope it will never happen!

FRom which jungle are you from?

 

[ersakthivel]

jf also got copied f-16 design to make it look like modern jet.

Time mods move this guys post to chit chat thread for entertainment purpose

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I have a bad feeling that our Tejas is going to crash on Bahrain Air show. Hope it will never happen!

Do not worry. Nothing will happen. LCA shall give a stunning performance. Junk fighter shall be proved a an inferior aircraft there. just wait for a week.

 

[ersakthivel]

Certainly has, Kunal ji. Atleast according to IDRW.

http://idrw.org/tejas-pilots-pull-8-g-and-beyond-clearing-critical-foc-point/

You could say I've been waiting for this to happen for quite some years. However the article fails to mention if the limit was achieved with or without a combat load (or a load akin to that). If it can manage 8g only with a clean load (no weapons, LDPs or fuel tanks) then it won't mean much as with a full load the tolerance can be lower than that.

No fighter in the world can manage more than 5 or 6 gs with loads, Only in clean config dogfights 8G , 9G can be pulled.

 

[ersakthivel]

I heard Tejas pull 8g, Gud that is ..

Long time no see,, welcome back , kunal!!!

 

[ersakthivel]

only one question why isnt IAF using all means at its disposal to reinvent the variuos possibillities in tejas platform by sharing there concerns and usage data & R&D inputs with HAL actively like what USAF does with all aerospace industries in USA or for that matter french air force with dassualt and so on

Dont worry manohar parrikar will do, like he did for teja mk1A config, IAF will learn watching it sitting side by side!!!

 

[ersakthivel]

@Chinmoy "Now all these do have a different role to play. Mig-21 being an interceptor could not be pitted against a Mig-29. The result is known here."

If I am not wrong IAF has a TACDE unit where different fighter types are pitted against each other.. In war situation no body can predict what fighter type one might encounter.. A Mig 21 may well encounter a Mig 29 class aircraft..

Though technology favors the Mig 29 class, good training and tactics for countering this eventuality can always add a crown to the Mig 21 pilot's "lady luck" and might just turn the tables. In case of Tejas, as it will undergo simultaneous development route, inputs from services and subsequent enhancements can help it be a great fighter in the regional airspace at least.

Tejas mk1 A with
1.. DRFM based EW suit,
2.. 100 plus KM ASEA radar
3.,and least clean config RCS among all IAF fighters

can face any non stealth fighter in asia with confidence.

Reason this combo allows it to get closer to enemy fighter without being deteced by it with just air to air missiles BVR + WVR.

Once it fires its air to air missiles its clean config RCS drops to less than a third of a sq meter , so it can stay & guide the BVR far longer without being detected by the enemy fighter on whom it fired its BVR missile,

A deadly combo of fighting traits only found in 4+ gen fighters like gripen NG, typhoon , rafale. Even su-30 MKI cant do this without being detected because its clean config RCS is manifolds that of tejas mk1A

Indian defence ANALysts like rajat pandit will never highlight this combat edge of tejas, reasons not far to seek,Also once in dog fight, its combo of Relaxed Static stabiity full digital fly by wire control system, high TWR + lo wing loading will let it pull high instantaneous turns allowing it to point its nose at enemy fighter quicker and evade when targeted.

Besides the total Gs pulled , an important factor in this is G onset rate, i.e how fast those Gs are pulled.(like the fast ones pulled on us by DDM)i.e, bike makersspecs of 0 to 100 in x seconds.

The high TWR + low wing loading will allow it to reach those Gs faster , google abt F-16 XL to find it out.