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Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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sgarg

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FOC and IOC are parameters and should not be compared with aircraft`s present capabilities ..

You should read, PV6 is final trainer version of Tejas and same as production version ..
Maybe they have built PV6 to FOC specs. This is what they mean.

You have a point and I have suspected that and said it before that they may build most of the first 20 to FOC specs, or even better.
My point is IAF has not declined to accept LCA Tejas. The contract for 40 LCA Tejas still stands.

HAL has to deliver these 40 aircrafts (with F404 engine etc).
 

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Thanks everyone for providing all this info regarding Tejas program. Has anyone tried to contact Parrikar over twitter?? We must certainly push IAF/Mod to support home grown product. US is funding its F35 although its cost has reached around $1.5T and other countries pulling out of program. IAF can continue to keep upgrading itself but they should in parallel induct more LCA MK1 and MK2 so that local producers be encouraged to set up required production facilities. Otherwise no private company is really going to participate and the vacuum will continue.
 

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What the hell!!!

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Rtd Air Commodore found murdered in Bangalore house - IBNLive

Bengaluru: A retired Air Commodore was found dead in his house in Bengaluru Rural district on Monday morning. 70-year-old Parvez Khokhar, who was living with his wife in a residential villa in Huskura area, was found dead with his hands and legs tied with a cloth in his room.
Khokhar was the Project Director for the flight test of Tejas LCA (Light Combat Aircraft) and was India's attache to Pakistan.
He has served 35 years in the Indian Air Force. According to police, Khokhar and his wife slept in separate rooms. This morning, when his wife found that her room was locked from inside, she tried calling her husband. When there was no response, she called up neighbours. The neighbors found that the house was locked from inside. They broke open the back door and opened the Khokhar's wife's room.
When the wife along with the neighbours went to check on Khokhar, they found him dead with his hands and legs tied with a piece of cloth. They immediately reported the matter to police.
Police have registered a case of murder and are suspecting that Khokhar may have been strangulated.
 

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Rest In Peace ..

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@ersakthivel

1. G K Kumaravel of the Combat Vehicles Research Development Establishment (CVRDE), Avadi, head of the Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark 1 and 2 programmes
2. Squadron Leader (Retd) Baldev Singh, Director (Corporate Planning & Marketing) at HAL; former Executive Director Flight Operations and the Chief Test Pilot (Fixed Wing) at HAL's Bangalore Complex
3. KK Josh, 34, chief engine room artificer (CERA) at Shipbuilding Centre
4. Abhish Shivam, 33, a chief engineer working at INS Arihant, India's first nuclear-powered submarine.
5. Air Commodore Parvez Khokhar, 70, former project director of India's indigenous fighter aircraft Light Combat Aircraft

Definite Arms mafia out killing these persons which must be investigated.
 
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India's defence production problem

While Parrikar will certainly clear long pending acquisition proposals faster, the larger strategic aim of his tenure must be to harmonize India's defence spend with the 'Make in India' programme.

The appointment of Manohar Parikkar as Union Defence Minister could not have come sooner. A 'part time' minister for Defence as Finance Minister Arun Jaitley has sometimes been called in the course of the last six months would have found it difficult to do justice to a portfolio that must establish India as a net provider of security in its immediate region and beyond.

Now someone with Parrikar's unimpeachable integrity is obviously useful to oversee all the muscle that India's military seeks to acquire to match up to it's ever expanding brief. But that brief is not only about meeting the projected requirements of the military in a timely and above board manner but also about engendering a domestic military industrial complex that is worthy of a country with significant strategic goals.

So while Parrikar will certainly clear long pending acquisition proposals faster, the larger strategic aim of his tenure must be to harmonize India's defence spend with the 'Make in India' programme. After all if 'Make in India' has to be more than a jobs program it must focus heavily on the military and aerospace sectors which continue to be at the top of the technological value food chain of what we call 'industry'.

Moreover if 'Make in India' is accompanied with 'export from India', it would sit rather well with India's stated objective of becoming a net security provider in the IOR as well as balancing the 'iron friendship' of our neighbours by exporting weapons to their other neighbours such as Vietnam and Afghanistan for instance.

For that Parrikar will have to show the political will to break down the sharp polarization that takes place in India between 'users' (i.e the military), 'developers' (i.e DRDO), 'producers'(mostly DPSUs) and 'buyers' (MoD bureaucrats).

In the import raj of the UPA's 'ten' factionalism within different wings of the same team became commonplace and this should not be tolerated by Parrikar as he looks to fix the MoD. Yes while the easing of FDI in defence norms is all well and good, Indian military exports will be mostly of those systems to which intellectual property (IP) is owned domestically such as the Akash surface to air missile (SAM), sonars (already being exported), radars and a range of communication equipment.

Indeed, it is important to understand that license producing foreign designs in India will never be as useful as building domestically developed weapons.

To aid that process, Parrikar will also have to get the Indian military to actually commit large orders to indigenously developed weapons, some of which like the Arjun Main Battle Tank(MBT) despite all the bad press, have outclassed foreign designs such as the T-90 in comparative trials.

In fact the best way to leverage 'FDI in defence' would be to attract key sub-system manufacturers to set up shop in India via the promise of both large domestic orders as well as exports for indigenous platforms that use these sub-systems. An example would be getting GE to build low bypass military turbofans in India for an extended HAL Tejas production run which includes export to Africa and Latin America.

But for that the Indian military must be encouraged to see itself as an 'owner' of indigenous programmes rather than as a mere user with a 'set of requirements'. Requirements which it must be said are often completely unrealistic (betraying brochuritis) and acceded to by a DRDO with equally unrealistic deadlines only so that import can be staved off for as long as possible.

The DPSUs don't care whether they license produce foreign designs or DRDO developed ones and MoD bureaucrats one way or the other remain overlords of this delightful landscape. Parrikar has to put a stop to this 'passing the parcel' game and bring accountability to the system by ensuring that collective responsibility is not a mere euphemism.


Source : Can Parrikar fix India's defence production problem? | Swarajya
 

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History Of The F-16 Fighting Falcon | Code One Magazine


the Lightweight Fighter Mafia will point out that thrust-to-weight ratio is not the only indicator of aircraft performance. The figure doesn't account for the effects of wing loading and aerodynamic drag. A better measure of performance is energy rate (or Ps), which is a function of thrust, weight, velocity, and drag. Every external payload extracts a performance price in aerodynamic drag....
Another reason why single engined smaller fighters are more effective than the simple thrust to weight calculations suggest. Tejas has a far smaller airframe , so less drag and far higher wing area(lower wing loading)

So if we take all three important factors as base for agility, i.e thrust to weight ratio, wing loading and skin friction drag. Tejas mk1 scores a bit lower in TWR compared to MMRCA competitors(but mk2 will bring it on par) and in other two critical factors like wing loading and skin friction drag, tejas mk1 itself holds a clear lead over any MMRCA competitor.

Add to that tejas has a relaxed Static Stability which aids agility, In total tejas has many things going for it.
 

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Rest In Peace ..

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1. G K Kumaravel of the Combat Vehicles Research Development Establishment (CVRDE), Avadi, head of the Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark 1 and 2 programmes
2. Squadron Leader (Retd) Baldev Singh, Director (Corporate Planning & Marketing) at HAL; former Executive Director Flight Operations and the Chief Test Pilot (Fixed Wing) at HAL's Bangalore Complex
3. KK Josh, 34, chief engine room artificer (CERA) at Shipbuilding Centre
4. Abhish Shivam, 33, a chief engineer working at INS Arihant, India's first nuclear-powered submarine.
5. Air Commodore Parvez Khokhar, 70, former project director of India's indigenous fighter aircraft Light Combat Aircraft

Definite Arms mafia out killing these persons which must be investigated.
The government should do something about safety of key defence personnel.

Hope the new govt does something about it.
 
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The government should do something about safety of key defence personnel.

Hope the new govt does something about it.
Why cant we have

SSG - Scientists Security Group

a commando protection group on the lines of NSG SPG PSG etc

all those who agree on this and have twitter account pl tweet this to

Pmoindia
Manoharparrikar
dpidrdo - drdo handle on twitter

thanks
 

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Why cant we have

SSG - Scientists Security Group

a commando protection group on the lines of NSG SPG PSG etc

all those who agree on this and have twitter account pl tweet this to

Pmoindia
Manoharparrikar
dpidrdo - drdo handle on twitter

thanks
A special unit is a good idea.
Before that we need good intelligence about the forces that are trying their hand at this.
 

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A special unit is a good idea.
Before that we need good intelligence about the forces that are trying their hand at this.
This case should be handled by a central investigation agency to get to the bottom of the murder. State police is too sloppy.
I agree that important scientists should be given police protection similar to IAS officers at least.
 

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I don't think it is practical to give security cover to all scientists in senior positions, especially the retired ones. I am hopeful that vigilance and counter intelligence teams already in place.
 

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I don't think it is practical to give security cover to all scientists in senior positions, especially the retired ones. I am hopeful that vigilance and counter intelligence teams already in place.
if a goonda like amit shah cna be given Z+ security
If ramdev can be given Z+ security

why cant scientists be given security ?

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we are not talking aboutz+ security for all scientists

it will be provided based on project post, sensitivity

for retired scientists ar least some police protection, IB support etc can be given
 

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Presently i am in Bangalore and I had been going to the IAF command hospital for the past two weeks. I stay right behind the HAL old airport and I go to the command hospital through the road behind the HAL and DRDO and Center for Air Borne Systems. I see 4-5 sorties of LCA everyday. Even the jet boom is audible everyday. Previously there was no sorties being done everyday. But from last 2 weeks everyday 4-5 sorties are being done. Any special reasons? Can we hope that LCA will be inducted in large numbers?
 
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