Su-30 has all the capability, that india wanted
Yes, it offered all we wanted in the late 90s, when we ordered them, it doesn't offer what it needs for modern air combat now, that's why it's technically not as capable as most MMRCAs and needs an upgrade, that also increases it's costs.
India got TOT even in su-30 deal, but still imports the radar and even spares too.
A common misconception
1) ToT for how to assemble or produce airframe parts, or how to build an AESA radar are 2 different things. That's exactly why the MMRCA requested critical techs like AESA, engine or EW from the start as part of the licence production, or why the government is asking for ToT that can be useful for AMCA, in the MMRCA 2.0 now.
2) Neither licence production, assembly or ToT has anything to do with spare supply! Every OEM and it's country mainly benefits from support contracts and spare supply over the 30 to 40 years of operational life of the fighters and not just from the procurement costs they get. So they sell fighters in flyaway condition, with assembly or licence production parts, but they never will give away full control of the lucrative upgrade and spare supply.
3) Our licence productions and the indigenous contents in it, kept growing and growing with each new contract. The MKI deal, gave us far more own work and capability, than earlier Mig 21 licence production deals, just as the MMRCA was meant to reach a new benchmark for contracts as well. The 50% offset requirement alone, was a first, the performance and quality clauses in the DPP were partly because of the lessons learned from the initial problems in the MKI licence production, the request for higher customization and techs was a show of strength too, because we were in a good position to negotiate and even the PBL the current government added to the DPP 2016, is another progress for any new deal we make.
MMRCA
An official shared this example. The radar on the Rafale jet is to be manufactured by Bharat-Electronics Ltd (BEL) at its facility in Bangalore. The Radome (the protruding snub nose on the aircraft) is, however, manufactured by HAL at its Hyderabad facility. Dassault wants clarity on how the two units will coordinate their activities.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/gov...eal-going-through-518850?amp=1&akamai-rum=off
Rafale deal
Leveraging Thales offset commitment as part of Rafale Contract, the JV is to develop Indian capabilities to integrate and maintain Radar and Electronic Warfare sensors
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worl...d-reliance-defence-limited-form-joint-venture
It was never part of any negotiations during mmrca deal.
First of all you don't know that, unless you were part of the UPA or NDA negotiation teams, which I highly doubt.
Secondly, UPA and NDA were still negotiation the basic MMRCA deal, which was in a deadlock because of Dassaults non compliance to the RFP. Any negotiations on weapons (with MBDA, Rafael), or on enhancements (Rafael, IAI, Thales, Dassault), could had been done only after an agreement and compliance on the MMRCA deal.
Unlike you i am making points backed by source.
That's the point, you don't back your claims, since the reports you post talk about completely different things!
The report you posted on the Mirage licence production, confirmed me not you! You only tried to spin the content of the article to make it suit you, but that's it.
Same goes for the FGFA article, where you are even right, that it has far more industrial benefits than MMRCA, because it was meant to be a co-development. But it still has no meaning for the MMRCA requirement!
The LCA programme has the most industrial meaning and benefits for Indian aviation industry, but in operational terms for IAF, it is nothing but a low end supporting fighter requirement, while MKI and MMRCAs are needed to defend the country with the necessary capability.
That's why randomly mixing up things, doesn't somehow create a point for you.
