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Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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In 2012, Laxminarayan created the Immunization Technical Support Unit that supports the immunization program of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare of the Government of India and which is credited with helping rapidly improve vaccination coverage and introduction of four new vaccines.

Is he the author of NYT article?
 

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US pharma company Pfizer has refused to send vaccines to Delhi and Punjab but it has hinted that it can supply five crore vaccine doses to India in 2021 if the Centre agrees to its terms and conditions, news agency PTI has reported.

According to the report, Pfizer can supply one crore vaccine doses in July, one in August, two crore in September and another one crore in October. But it will deal only with the government of India and the payment has to be made by GOI.

Pfizer, sources told to PTI, has also asked for indemnification from the Centre like it has with around 116 countries in the world, including the United States. Reuters reported that the US drugmaker wants legal protection from any claims linked to the use of its vaccine. Another report says Pfizer wants relaxations in the 'requirement of post-approval bridging trials and dispensing the requirement of testing their vaccines in Central Drugs Laboratory".

For the approval of any foreign-made vaccine, local trials in India are required, like Dr Reddy's Laboratory's conducted for Sputnik V, the only foreign vaccine approved in India. It is not yet known whether the government will agree to these clauses as other companies may raise similar demands.

As Pfizer refused to supply to individual states, the ministry said it has been coordinating with both Pfizer and Moderna. "Whether it is Pfizer or Moderna, at the Centre-level, we have been coordinating with them. The order book of both Pfizer and Moderna is full so it depends on their surplus that how much they can provide in India... they will come back to the Centre and we will help in facilitation to states," health ministry joint secretary Lav Agarwal said.

Pfizer has defended that 14.7 crore doses of vaccines have already been administered worldwide without any "significant reports of adverse effects". The expert group of vaccination will take a final call on allowing Pfizer, reports said.

Regarding Pfizer's vaccine, the Centre was initially doubtful as it required to be stored at minus 70 degree celsius. But recently, the company said that its vaccine can be stored at minus 25 degree, and it can also be stored for five days at a temperature between two degree and eight degree celsius

With this, the overall production of Covaxin -- Bharat Biotech's COVID-19 vaccine -- will increase to 10 crore in June, 17 crore in July, 19 crore in August and 40 crore in September, added the ministry.

This explains why Pfizer is desperate to push at least 100-200 million doses and is trying its best to activate its sleeper cells like Rahul Gandhi, Arvind Kejriwal and sundry others in Congress, AAP, Shiv Sena, NCP and other regional parties.

Why should we buy 1 crore vaccines per month from Pfizer with all those preconditions imposed on us when BB, SII and Dr. Reddys can collectively offer 20-25 crore vaccines per month?

If Bharat Biotech sticks to its promise, the above adds up to 86 crore doses. If BB sticks to even 50% of its assurance, that's still 43 crore doses. Those are pretty good numbers as festive season kicks in.
 
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Pre 2nd wave Modi theme: India (meaning Modi) has been exceptional in suppressing the Pandemic.

Post 2nd wave Modi theme, since the last few days: The whole world has suffered due to this once in a generation pandemic..
Meaning: Honi ko Kaun taal Sakta hain..

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This once-in-a-lifetime pandemic has brought tragedy and suffering at the doorstep of many. The pandemic has impacted every nation. The economic impact is huge as well. Our planet will not be the same after covid-19. In the times to come, we will certainly remember events as either pre-covid or post-covid," Modi said while delivering the keynote address on the occasion of the Vesak Day programme to celebrate Buddha Jayanti.
 

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Looks like Astrazeneca authored a document and leaked that pfizer is causing more deaths than them.....any truth?
 

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‘China turned Covid-19 into biological weapon, committed mass murder’
Somebody should get to the bottom of this (India’s second wave). It is entirely possible China released another pathogen, says Gordon Chang.

Q: What does the pandemic tell us about China?

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The pandemic reveals, once again, the maliciousness of China’s Communist Party. Whether or not Covid-19 started out as a biological weapon, China turned it into one.

For at least five weeks, and perhaps longer, Chinese officials knew this disease was highly contagious but tried to convince the world it was not.

At the same time, Xi Jinping was pressuring countries not to impose travel restrictions and quarantines on arrivals from China—while at the same time locking down his own country. By locking down his own country, he must have thought he was stopping the disease from spreading. Which means he must have thought he was spreading the disease internationally by pressuring others to accept passengers from China.

This means Xi Jinping knew, or had to know, he was turning an epidemic in the central part of China into a global pandemic.

This was intentional, which makes Xi’s actions murder. And because 3.4 million people have so far died, this was mass murder.

Q: What should be done about it?

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We must hold China accountable to establish deterrence. This is not the last pathogen that will be generated on Chinese soil, and we cannot allow Xi to think he can spread the next disease with similar impunity.

So even if we do not care about justice or compensation, we have to impose severe costs on China so its leaders will not do this again.

This is a matter of our survival. China is working on pathogens that do not attack the Chinese but sicken the rest of us. The next disease from China, therefore, could leave China as the only viable society in the world. We must not allow that to happen.

We should be cutting off trade and investment. We should be seizing Chinese assets. We should be ending technical and scientific cooperation with China. We should be implementing policies designed to end the rule of the Communist Party.

Q: What do you think about India’s “Second Wave”?

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Is the double mutant strain natural? Somebody should be getting to the bottom of this. China’s leaders have already committed mass murder, so it is entirely possible they released another pathogen.

To me it’s impossible to understand how these guys think. They are doing things that are so beyond the scope of my imagination that I can’t put anything past these monsters.

Q: What has been the response of the United States?

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I believe President Joe Biden, by refusing to confront China on Covid-19, has failed to discharge his responsibilities. As of today, China has killed 588,000 Americans. It is inconceivable to me that Biden didn’t raise this in his two-hour call with Xi in February. If you can’t talk about the mass killings of Americans, you shouldn’t be President of the United States.

The response of the Biden administration has been totally inadequate. I would imagine that does not inspire confidence in US leadership at the moment.

Q: What happens next?

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China is maliciously attacking us, and I don’t take the continued existence of the United States for granted. If we don’t start defending ourselves, it’s possible we will lose our freedom, we will lose our way of life, we will lose our sovereignty, we will lose our country.

America is not the only country at risk. In general, democratic states are an existential threat to China. India is the largest democracy so, of course, the Chinese are attacking it. India is as much at risk as we are.

We are at a time when almost anything is possible. It is not wise to underestimate the danger China’s regime poses to others.

Q: What is the goal of Xi Jinping?

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China, under Xi Jinping, has just attacked every other nation, so every other nation should be working together. Xi throughout this century has raised the imagery of the Mandate of Heaven to rule all tianxia, all under Heaven. He believes, therefore, he is the only legitimate sovereign in the world. His subordinates openly talk about this.

Let’s be clear: Xi is trying to overthrow the current Westphalian international system of sovereign states. So, yes, he views Americans and Indians as subjects.

And he views Americans as enemies. In May 2019, the Communist Party’s People’s Daily newspaper, the most authoritative publication in China, carried a piece declaring a “people’s war” on America. That is more than just a hint about how China’s Communists feel about us. We should start listening to what they are saying. We Americans are often oblivious, ignoring the warnings of enemies.
 

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CCP Top Advisor’s Admission of “Biological War” and Situations in Taiwan and Japan
Today I will talk about three topics, all very important. 1) About a top CCP professor’s shocking admission that China has won the “biological warfare” in 2020. 2) About a series of Taiwan’s unexpected emergent situations, and whether the CCP is waging “unrestricted warfare” against Taiwan; 2) About Japan, Europe and the US’s joint effort to tackle the CCP’s threat. So please make sure you stick around till the end.
 

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Dont read much into the Biden admin asking their agencies to probe the Chinese Virus' bio-warfare origins. Its like the regular "clean chitting" happens to the earlier-opposition-now-ruling-party politicians in our country after various scams.
Now that "Apna Banda" has been (s)elected by China to the US, he will engage various US agencies and then those will either give vague reports or give a clean chit to China. This is nothing but white-washing China's crimes against humanity in the eyes of the American public so that they can go back to pumping profits into wall-street without having to guilt trip americans about it.
 

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Dont read much into the Biden admin asking their agencies to probe the Chinese Virus' bio-warfare origins. Its like the regular "clean chitting" happens to the earlier-opposition-now-ruling-party politicians in our country after various scams.
Now that "Apna Banda" has been (s)elected by China to the US, he will engage various US agencies and then those will either give vague reports or give a clean chit to China. This is nothing but white-washing China's crimes against humanity in the eyes of the American public so that they can go back to pumping profits into wall-street without having to guilt trip americans about it.
Exactly bro. Right now there is too much evidence coming out that implicates the leftist establishment in funding the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus research with Fauci, Peter Daszak and many other US scientists implicated. So Biden had to do something due to the political pressure. So Biden figures, give 90 days for things to cool down, then give China a clean chit, so that the CCP/wall street money train can begin at full speed again. The establishment is in too deep with the CCP, so they have no other choice. This is why Biden shut down the initial investigation started by Trump. The bulk of the investigation has been done by whistleblowers inside and outside of China while the establishment intelligence services have been doing nothing since Biden became President, and now that the cat is out of the bag, Biden is looking for a way out because he and his wealthy donors are too dependent on CCP. Meanwhile sleepy Joe has been taking a nap since taking office even after 600000 Americans have been killed by a CCP bioweapon released intentionally by using Chinese people as carriers. I do not trust Biden or his leftist intelligence services at all. The leftist/wall street establishment has been deeply compromised by the CCP.

Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance Has Hidden Almost $40 Million In Pentagon Funding And Militarized Pandemic Science
“Pandemics are like terrorist attacks: We know roughly where they originate and what’s responsible for them, but we don’t know exactly when the next one will happen. They need to be handled the same way — by identifying all possible sources and dismantling those before the next pandemic strikes.”

This statement was written in the New York Times earlier this year by Peter Daszak. Daszak is the longtime president of the EcoHealth Alliance, a New York-based non-profit whose claimed focus is pandemic prevention. But the EcoHealth Alliance, it turns out, is at the very centre of the COVID-19 pandemic in many ways.

To depict the pandemic in such militarized terms is, for Daszak, a commonplace. In an Oct. 7 online talk organized by Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs, Daszak presented a slide titled “Donald Rumsfeld’s Prescient Speech.”:

“There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns; that is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns — there are things we don’t know we don’t know.” (This Rumsfeld quote is in fact from a news conference)

In the subsequent online discussion, Daszak emphasized the parallels between his own crusade and Rumsfeld’s, since, according to Daszak, the “potential for unknown attacks” is “the same for viruses”.

Daszak then proceeded with a not terribly subtle pitch for over a billion dollars. This money would support a fledgling virus hunting and surveillance project of his, the Global Virome Project — a “doable project” he assured watchers — given the cost of the pandemic to governments and various industries.

Also on the video was Columbia University professor Jeffrey Sachs. Sachs is a former special advisor to the UN, the former head of the Millennium Villages Project, and was recently appointed Chair of the newly-formed EAT Lancet Commission on the pandemic. In September, Sachs’ commission named Daszak to head up its committee on the pandemic’s origins. Daszak is also on the WHO’s committee to investigate the pandemic’s origin. He is the only individual on both committees.

These leadership positions are not the only reason why Peter Daszak is such a central figure in the COVID-19 pandemic, however. His appointment dismayed many of those who are aware that Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance funded bat coronavirus research, including virus collection, at the Wuhan Institute for Virology (WIV) and thus could themselves be directly implicated in the outbreak.

For his part, Daszak has repeatedly dismissed the notion that the pandemic could have a lab origin. In fact, a recent FOIA by the transparency group U.S. Right To Know revealed that Peter Daszak drafted an influential multi-author letter published on February 18 in the Lancet. That letter dismissed lab origin hypothesese as “conspiracy theory.” Daszak was revealed to have orchestrated the letter such as to “avoid the appearance of a political statement.”

Sachs for his part seemed surprised by Daszak’s depiction of Rumsfeld but Daszak reassured him. “It’s an awesome quote! And yes, it’s Donald Rumsfeld, Jeff, and I know he’s a Republican, but — what a genius!”

Following the EcoHealth Alliance’s money trail to the Pentagon

Collecting dangerous viruses is typically justified as a preventive and defensive activity, getting ahead of what “Nature” or “The Terrorists” might throw at us. But by its nature, this work is “dual use”. “Biodefense” is often just as easily biowarfare since biodefense and the products of biowarfare are identical. It’s simply a matter of what the stated goals are.

This is openly acknowledged [See below] by scientists associated with EcoHealth Alliance when talking about alleged programs in other counties — like Iraq.

For much of this year, Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance garnered a great deal of sympathetic media coverage after its $3.7 million five-year NIH grant was prematurely cut when the Trump administration learned that EcoHealth Alliance funded bat coronavirus research at the WIV.

The temporary cut was widely depicted in major media as Trump undermining the EcoHealth Alliance’s noble fight against pandemics. The termination was reversed by NIH in late August, and even upped to $7.5 million. But entirely overlooked amid the claims and counter-claims was that far more funding for the EcoHealth Alliance comes from the Pentagon than the NIH.

To be strictly fair to the media, Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance obscures its Pentagon funding. On its website EcoHealth Alliance states that “A copy of the EHA Grant Management Manual is available upon request to the EHA Chief Financial Officer at finance ( at ) ecohealthalliance.org”. But an email to that address and numerous others, including Peter Daszak’s, requesting that Manual, as well as other financial information, was not returned. Neither were repeated voicemails.

Only buried under their “Privacy Policy,” under a section titled “EcoHealth Alliance Policy Regarding Conflict of Interest in Research,” does the EcoHealth Alliance concede it is the “recipient of various grant awards from federal agencies including the National Institute of Health, the National Science Foundation, US Fish and Wildlife Service, and the US Agency for International Development and the Department of Defense.”

Even this listing is deceptive. It obscures that its two largest funders are the Pentagon and the State Department (USAID); whereas the US Fish and Wildlife Service, which accounts for a minuscule $74,487, comes before either.

Meticulous investigation of U.S. government databases reveals that Pentagon funding for the EcoHealth Alliance from 2013 to 2020, including contracts, grants and subcontracts, was just under $39 million. Most, $34.6 million, was from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), which is a branch of the DOD which states it is tasked to “counter and deter weapons of mass destruction and improvised threat networks.”

Most of the remaining money to EHA was from USAID (State Dept.), comprising at least $64,700,000 (1). These two sources thus total over $103 million. (See Fig).

Summary EHA Grants and Contracts
Summary of EHA Grants and Contracts. Note this figure doesn’t count subcontracts so it undercounts USAID’s contribution, see footnote (1) below (Credit: James Baratta and Mariamne Everett)
Another $20 million came from Health and Human Services ($13 million, which includes National Institutes of Health and Centers for Disease Control), National Science Foundation ($2.6 million), Department of Homeland Security ($2.3 million), Department of Commerce ($1.2 million), Department of Agriculture ($0.6 million), and Department of Interior ($0.3 million). So, total U.S. government funding for EHA to-date stands at $123 million, approximately one third of which comes from the Pentagon directly. The full funding breakdown is available here and is summarized by year, source, and type, in a spreadsheet format.

Pdf versions of this the spreadsheet are available to download. The summary is here and all Federal grants and contracts are here.

More military connections

The military links of the EcoHealth Alliance are not limited to money and mindset. One noteworthy ‘policy advisor’ to the EcoHealth Alliance is David Franz. Franz is former commander of Fort Detrick, which is the principal U.S. government biowarfare/biodefense facility.

David Franz was part of UNSCOM which inspected Iraq for alleged bioweapons — what were constantly referred to as WMDs or Weapons of Mass Destruction by the U.S. government and the media. Franz has been one of those eager to state, at least when discussing alleged Iraqi programs, that “in biology … everything is dual use — the people, the facilities and the equipment.” (NPR, May 14, 2003; link no longer available).

Just this year Franz wrote a piece with former New York Times journalist Judith Miller, whose stories of Iraqi WMDs did much to misinform the US public regarding the case for the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Their joint article, “A Biosecurity Failure: America’s key lab for fighting infectious disease has become a Pentagon backwater,” urges more funding for Fort Detrick.

Miller and Franz are long-time associates. Miller co-wrote the book Germs, released amid the 2001 false flag anthrax attacks, which repeatedly quotes Franz. Miller at the time received a hoax letter with a harmless white powder, increasing her prominence.

Franz continued hyping the existence of Iraqi WMDs even after the invasion of Iraq. While she was still with the Times, Miller quoted him in a story “U.S. Analysts Link Iraq Labs To Germ Arms” on May 21, 2003 pushing the theory that Iraq had mobile biological WMD units. (This theory was debunked by the British scientist Dr David Kelly, who would die, apparently by suicide, soon thereafter.)

Four significant insights emerge from all this. First, although it is called the EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak and his non-profit work closely with the military. Second, the EcoHealth Alliance attempts to conceal these military connections. Third, through militaristic language and analogies Daszak and his colleagues promote what is often referred to as, and even then somewhat euphemistically, an ongoing agenda known as “securitization“. In this case it is the securitization of infectious diseases and of global public health. That is, they argue that pandemics constitute a vast and existential threat. They minimize the very real risks associated with their work, and sell it as a billion dollar solution. The fourth insight is that Daszak himself, as the Godfather of the Global Virome Project, stands to benefit from the likely outlay of public funds.
 

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‘Cadila vaccine found to be safe for children aged 12-18 years’

Zydus Cadila is finding its Covid-19 vaccine safe for children in clinical trials, said managing director Sharvil Patel. “We have not seen anything to worry about when it comes to safety for the whole trial and for children also,” Patel told ET. The Ahmedabad-based company is carrying out clinical trials involving 1,000 children to test the efficacy of its vaccine against SARS Cov2 virus.


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Any links ?

Also looks like sputnik V developers claim that people vaccinated by their stuff even if infected does not spread it? The Russians claim lot of things but those who are in the profession on this forum, is this believable?
 

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How it changes...from belittling Covaxin to running after it.....
Me and my entire family are on COVISHIELD , with either 1 or both shots. I wont mind going in for a COVAXIN booster once supply situation eases up and there are more vaccines than takers. Could be possible in the August-Sept time frame.
Maybe three weeks from the first shot would be a good idea to get an antibody spike protein test done to see how well you have sero-converted and take a call accordingly.
 

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Previously Public Health England had said 1 dose of Pfizer gives 50% immunity against B.1.617 now it is revised to 33%.

 

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Previously Public Health England had said 1 dose of Pfizer gives 50% immunity against B.1.617 now it is revised to 33%.

I am wondering if they arrived at this conclusion via lab trials or human tests ?
If human tests, how did they test it out on the placebo group ? I think its all speculation about different vaccines and their effectiveness against variants.
Pfizer , Moderna et al , will probably show the same real world efficiency as covishield/covaxin when given in similar conditions like we have in India.
Similar conditions = mix of vaccinated and unvaccinated people mixing away to glory without covid appropriate behaviour for months and more giving ample scope for the virus to breakthrough the immunity by mutating.
 

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