Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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another_armchair

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Delhi Police busted a fake Remdesevir factory in Okhla.

Those behind these should be lined up and shot. Arrest and "laa will take own koarse" won't do.
Inject the drug into their veins, put them in PPE suits and make them work 12 hours a day in a covid speciality ward for 3 months straight.
 

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Even supreme court now sigh.. these days everyone seems to be taking a shot at the govt.
It's open season on Babaji.
Babaji probably deserves it for being soft, timid and paralyzed since his second term.
Hope Babaji learns a lesson from this and "adapts", he has time till 2024.
We may face a 3rd and 4th wave till then, and afterwards corona will be begone, pyres will also be gone once he loses 2024.

Just like America became free of corona after the Orange Cheeto was thrown out of the WH, and Uncle Biden, beloved of 10 year old blonde girls and boys was installed.
 

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Home isolation only if oxygen saturation is above 94%: Government

NEW DELHI: Amid rapidly rising Covid-19 cases, the health ministry on Thursday revised home isolation guidelines for Covid patients who have been clinically assigned as ‘asymptomatic’ or ‘mildly symptomatic’ by a treating medical officer. According to the revised guidelines, home isolation is allowed only if oxygen saturation at room air is above 94%.


Oxygen desaturation is one thing thats a fuckup in this chinese virus.
Every pathogen has a certain proclivity and affinity to attack a particular organ. It is where they like to live and will be able to find most conducive environment to proliferate and spread.

Many pathogens can attack multiple organs or a particular circulatory system or sub system or whole body due to multiple reasons; generally how our immunity reacts, treatment or lack and inadequacy of both.

Some pathogen attack diffrent organs depending on their proliferation or multiplication (binary fission) stages and time they have in the host that is acute, sub acute and chronic stages. Some pathogen are para-infectious presenting themselves in different organs during or in an association with an acute infection inflicting a totally seperate organ or system.

Covid-19 unfortunately attacks lungs to be precise the air ways and end air way membranes called alveoli where gases that is O2 and CO2 exchange. Without discussing the pathogenesis the virus makes airway inflamed and triggers cascade of multiple pathogenicities which makes the lungs redundant or compromised to do its primary job of gas exchange that is getting the CO2 out and putting O2 back into the blood stream.
 
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IMO, Time to quit being nice doggy or respect any IPR. I am pretty sure chinis are vaccinating their people with their own vaccines (although not as effecient as proven). We need to stop this stupid bechara good for nothing attitude. Its an dog eat dog world, its better to crank up the vaccine prod and vaccination efforts by hook or crook .
 

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COVID 19 Vaccination-Day 105

More than 26 lakh vaccine doses given till 8 pm push Cumulative Vaccine Coverage to more than 15.48 Cr doses


Posted On: 30 APR 2021 8:52PM by PIB Delhi



The total vaccination across the country has crossed more than 15.48 Cr mark. The country has administered more than 26 lakh vaccine doses till 8 pm today.


The cumulative number of COVID19 vaccine doses administered in the country stands at 15,48,54,096 as per the 8 pm provisional report today.


These include 94,10,892 Healthcare Workers (HCWs) who have taken the 1st dose and


62,40,077 HCWs who have taken the 2nd dose, 1,25,48,925 Frontline Workers (FLWs) (1st dose), 68,11,824 FLWs (2nd dose), 5,26,53,077 for over 45 years old to 60 years old (1st Dose), 37,59,948 for over 45 years old to 60 years old (2nd dose), 5,23,51,313 for above 60 years (1st Dose) and 1,10,78,040 for above 60 years (2nd Dose).






HCWs

FLWs

Age Group 45-60 years

Above 60 Years

Total Achievement

1st Dose

2nd Dose

1st Dose

2nd Dose

1st Dose

2nd Dose

1st Dose

2nd Dose

1st Dose

2nd Dose

94,10,892

62,40,077

1,25,48,925

68,11,824

5,26,53,077

37,59,948

5,23,51,313

1,10,78,040

12,69,64,207

2,78,89,889




Total 26,08,948 vaccine doses were given till 8 pm today, the One hundred and fifth day of nationwide COVID-19 vaccination. Out of which 14,77,309 beneficiaries were vaccinated for 1st dose and 11,31,639 beneficiaries received 2nd dose of the vaccine as per the provisional report. Final reports would be completed for the day by late tonight.






Date: 30th April 2021 (105th Day)

HCWs

FLWs

Age Group 45-60 years

Above 60

Years

Total Achievement

1st Dose

2nd Dose

1st Dose

2nd Dose

1st Dose

2nd Dose

1st Dose

2nd Dose

1st Dose

2nd Dose

24,007

48,959

1,28,972

1,03,962

8,74,235

3,42,037

4,50,095

6,36,681

14,77,309

11,31,639
 

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Government Facilitates faster imports of key medical devices by relaxing the conditions for clearances under Legal Metrology (Packaging Rules 2011)


Posted On: 30 APR 2021 6:48PM by PIB Delhi



Considering the present pandemic situation of COVID-19 and for meeting the demand of medical devices, Department of Consumer Affairs, Government of India has permitted the importers of medical devices to import the following categories medical devices for three months from 28.04.2021 onwards, subject to the condition that the importers shall make all declarations required under these rules immediately after import/ custom clearance and before sale by way of stamping or putting sticker or online printing, as the case may be:





(i) Nebulizers,


(ii) Oxygen concentrators,


(iii) Continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) devices,


(iv) Bilevel positive airway pressure (BIPAP) devices]


(v) Oxygen concentrator along with flow meter, regulator, connectors and tubing


(vi) Vacuum Pressure Swing Absorption (VPSA) and Pressure Swing Absorption (PSA) oxygen plants, Cryogenic Oxygen Air Separation Units (ASUs) producing liquid/ gaseous oxygen


(vii) Oxygen Cannister


(viii) Oxygen Filling Systems


(ix) Oxygen cylinders including cryogenic cylinders


(x) Oxygen Generators


(xi) Parts to be used for the manufacture of equipment for production, transportation, distribution or storage of Oxygen


(xii) Any other device from which Oxygen can be generated


(xiii) Ventilators (capable of functioning as high-flow devices) with nasal canula; Compressors including all accessories and tubing; humidifiers and Viral filters


(xiv) High flow nasal canula device with all attachments


(xv) Helmets for use with non-invasive ventilation


(xvi) Non-invasive ventilation oronasal masks for ICU ventilators


(xvii) Non-invasive ventilation nasal masks for ICU ventilators





Department of Consumer Affairs, administers the Legal Metrology Act 2009. The act provides for application of legal requirements to measurements and measuring instruments. The objective of Legal Metrology is to ensure public guarantee from the point of view of security and accuracy of the weighments and measurements. The Legal Metrology (Packaged Commodities), Rules 2011 are primarily intended to ensure that the consumers are able to make informed choices by being informed of essential declarations on the pre-packed commodities.





The advisory is issued to cater the steep demand for the medical devices mentioned above by enabling the speedy clearance of these goods amid the second wave of Covid in the country. The Government of India has allowed this flexibility for labelling the essential medical devices post custom clearance but before sale for making the expeditious clearance of these life saving devices. The importers, importing the medical devices under this permission shall inform all such imports with quantity imported to the Director (Legal Metrology) and the Controller (Legal Metrology) in the State, where the import is made, immediately after import.
 

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Govt. of India has so far provided more 16.33 crore vaccine doses to States/UTs Free of Cost




Vaccination is a crucial pillar of the five point strategy of Government of India to fight the pandemic including Test, Track, Treat and COVID Appropriate Behaviour. Government of India has been leading the fight against the COVID19 pandemic. Several proactive steps have been taken the Union Government for containment and management of the COVID19 pandemic.


Government of India has so far provided nearly 16.33 crore vaccine doses (16,33,85,030) to States/UTs Free of Cost (as per data from today at 8 am).


Of this, the total consumption including wastages is 15,33,56,503 doses.


More than 1 crore COVID Vaccine doses (1,00,28,527) are still available with the States/UTs to be administered.


Near 20 lakh (19,81,110) vaccine doses will be received in addition by the States/UTs within the next 3 days.























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MV


HFW/COVID Vaccine data/30thApril2021/3
 

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Kerala slashes RT-PCR test cost to Rs 500


Cheapest in the country?
I did an RT-PCR at a pvt hospital for Rs 500 a few days ago. Kerela isn't the first state to do that.
 

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Govt. of India has so far provided more 16.33 crore vaccine doses to States/UTs Free of Cost




Vaccination is a crucial pillar of the five point strategy of Government of India to fight the pandemic including Test, Track, Treat and COVID Appropriate Behaviour. Government of India has been leading the fight against the COVID19 pandemic. Several proactive steps have been taken the Union Government for containment and management of the COVID19 pandemic.


Government of India has so far provided nearly 16.33 crore vaccine doses (16,33,85,030) to States/UTs Free of Cost (as per data from today at 8 am).


Of this, the total consumption including wastages is 15,33,56,503 doses.


More than 1 crore COVID Vaccine doses (1,00,28,527) are still available with the States/UTs to be administered.


Near 20 lakh (19,81,110) vaccine doses will be received in addition by the States/UTs within the next 3 days.























****


MV


HFW/COVID Vaccine data/30thApril2021/3


UP received significantly less than other states.

Rajasthan is 1/3 smaller than UP but received similar no.

i guess due to low infection rate .

now UP will get fucked.
 

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UP received significantly less than other states.

Rajasthan is 1/3 smaller than UP but received similar no.

i guess due to low infection rate .

now UP will get fucked.
The invoicing would be based on some data and factors.
lets not jump to concussion.
 

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True number of COVID cases and deaths in India likely far greater than official figures


 

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True number of COVID cases and deaths in India likely far greater than official figures


Death certificate is an important document in India. No one will dare miss to have it for their dead family members. That data can never be fudged and can be easily accessed. The population census will happen next year if things get back to normal.

Now avoid posting such rants based on propaganda toolkits.

Go count your own dead bodies your 1st world doctors failed to save.

Dig a grave a sniff if they are still rotting, sell some pictures to CNN, we don’t care.
 

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Death certificate is an important document in India. No one will dare miss to have it for their dead family members. That data can never be fudged and can be easily accessed. The population census will happen next year if things get back to normal.

Now avoid posting such rants based on propaganda toolkits.

Go count your own dead bodies your 1st world doctors failed to save.
like i said ignorance




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Cremation count shows massive underreporting of Covid toll
 

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True number of COVID cases and deaths in India likely far greater than official figures


its true . Govt cnt count in real time . only if u have done rtpcr test and die in hospital bed u get counted . we ll know real numbers after a time gap . people are also dying in other complications as hospitals are over saturated
 

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For dolts who are claiming 10X deaths.

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India is in the middle of its second wave and our social media feeds have morphed into SOS helplines with citizens running pillar to post to arrange medicines and oxygen cylinders. Amid this, the pack of foreign correspondents and their desi counterparts, who in the first wave couldn’t understand why COVID-19 wasn’t killing the natives in sufficient numbers, have made a triumphant comeback. With intrusive pictures of burning pyres that’d shame vultures, the ecosystem that lives for poverty porn is back with many of them claiming that India is grossly underreporting its COVID-19 death numbers.

John Burn-Murdoch of the Financial Times even claimed that the “numbers of Covid victims who have been cremated are 10x larger than official Covid death counts in same areas”.

Now, if you claim that the death toll is twice the government figure, it’s still understandable but if one claims it’s 10 times the number, it fails to pass the basic smell test.

To begin with, the under-reported death figures aren’t part of some grand global conspiracy. This has been happening and will continue to happen across the globe. For example, New York City was accused of underreporting its nursing home deaths by a few thousand that were added to the tally in early February 2021, this pushed their total nursing home resident deaths in the state up from 8,500 to nearly 15,000.

So, it’s quite natural that if one digs deeper, one will find that state governments are underreporting deaths. But that’s not the point. This piece doesn’t carry a brief for any government, nor is it an apologia to reduce the death count. The only thing we are bothered about is the truth.

Now let’s examine the lofty claim that the death rate is 10 times what’s being officially reported. For starters, the criticism of the government’s nefarious schemes has to be consistent. Critics would’ve us believe that the same governments (state and central), which can’t provide basic facilities during the second wave are somehow Machiavellian enough to under-count death rates by a factor of 10!

If the death count was actually 10 times, it’d suggest that both state and central governments, which have a plethora of different political parties, somehow managed to come together on the same page and keep the official numbers down.
And they somehow managed to do so under immense scrutiny from NGOs, media, activists, and the foreign press.

Also, numbers don’t lie.

Also, just to give you some perspective, the current number of deaths as of this moment is 1,98,899. If the number was 10 times, it’d suggest that 20 lakh (or 2 million) people in India had succumbed to COVID-19.

Even a flat earther would think twice before making the aforementioned claim.

By the way, we had the same narrative last year during the 1st wave albeit with a different religion. In 2020 we were flooded with stories of the Muslim burial grounds being overburdened and running out of space and there are dead bodies everywhere.

So is it possible that there were underreported deaths during the 1st wave? Yes, but the key question is by how much? If it was 10 times do you understand the amount of time & in the case of Muslims the amount of space that would be required to bury people? By the way, such stories had cropped up in Mumbai too. But then after a while, it was clear that the chaos was partly because of the spike (which is expected), but, it was primarily because burial grounds were overburdened with COVID-19 protocols.

Another way to decipher all of this is to look at the death rates of 2018 to 2020. We can study the trends and wherever we find gaps we can try to use basic logic to decipher what is happening. So what points should be considered to break this down?
  1. What is the spike in terms of absolute numbers of deaths?
  2. In which period did this spike happen?
  3. Can these numbers be given to COVID completely? If yes, why?
If someone says Yes to point 3 what they are trying to say is that every extra death in India has happened only because of COVID!!! Does that mean deaths by other causes are reported perfectly? Of course, the third point is outrageous, since it’s impossible to believe that Indians have become immune to every other disease.

Let’s look at the data. In Mumbai, 21,000 more deaths (around 23%) were reported in the 2020 calendar year compared to 2019. It was 1,11,942 in 2020 and 91,223 in 2019. The month of May 2020 had by far the highest amount of deaths registered (14328) compared to 7335 deaths from May 2019.

Now here are some points that we should remember when we further analyse this data:
  1. When we calculate the excess mortality data we must keep in mind the standard year-on-year rise of deaths by 2 to 2.5%.
  2. One must also remember that these are the total number of deaths in the whole year. These numbers do not indicate or consider deaths by various other causes. For eg, during the 1st wave, the entire health infrastructure had collapsed and patients suffering from various other chronic illnesses like cancer, kidney failure, hypertension, and diabetes were denied basic healthcare access. Also, the lockdown had temporarily reduced the rate of deaths by road accidents for a while, but it had also resulted in an increase of deaths by suicides. To get a real picture one might have to look at the age-wise distribution to get an even better idea (COVID-19 does tend to harm the 60 and above age group more).
The official COVID-19 fatality number of Mumbai was 11,116 for the year 2020. So when we take points number 1 and 2 into consideration and try to break down the excess number of deaths, it would be fewer or not more than 2 times the official count.

Another point we need to remember in the case of Mumbai is that the 1st wave had hit the slums disproportionately more than the non-slums. This can be seen by looking at the sero survey conducted by BMC that showed 57% of the people in slums had antibodies to Covid-19 as against 16% in non-slum pockets. How do we know whether the sero survey was right? Well during the second wave the infection spread is completely lopsided in comparison to the 1st wave. Unlike the 1st wave, the 2nd wave in Mumbai has found 90% are concentrated in high-rise buildings while slums account for just 10%. Slum-dwellers do not have the same level of access to quality healthcare in comparison to non-slum dwellers. This is another factor that should be considered when we try to understand the overall mortality narrative.

Let us consider another state for our analysis. The state of Kerala released its all cause-mortality data and as per that Kerala recorded over 16,000 fewer deaths in 2020 compared to the average of the previous five years. The point to be noted here is that Kerala had and still has the 2nd highest number of infections in the entire country.

If one was to consider all these factors the only rational conclusion that can be derived is that the deaths at most could be 2 times what the governments (state and central) claim. It cannot be beyond that. And if someone wants to make the 10 times claim then they should provide the evidence for the same.

Taking some news reports and amplifying them to suggest the entire country is crumbling is not data crunching, it’s simply pandering to the ‘bhay ka mahaul’ narrative without giving facts to substantiate it. In a huge country like India, it’s always possible to find any story to fit one’s narrative but that doesn’t make it the universal truth.

The only way to figure out the real Covid-19 mortality numbers for 2021 would be looking at the annual death data and then trying to make sense out of that after a year in 2022.

As Carl Sagan once said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Nothing substantiates the 10 times claims and stories of crematoriums might excite a naïve audience back home, but it certainly doesn’t pass the muster.

In fact, one would’ve to use a metaphorical blade of two philosophical razors to truly slice through the ridiculous claims of the death porn enthusiasts: Hitchen’s and Hanlon’s. While Hitchen’s states that what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence, Hanlon’s states: “Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.”

A close observation would show that we can reject the claims simply because they are being made either from malice or stupidity, neither of which is a great skill for data observation.
 

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lol ignorance is bliss, its not just from aussies news but EVERY news outlet out there, cnn/nbc/fox/abc/bbc/ruter/guardian/ etc etc

It's not ignorance. It's just that we are retrospective of this crisis, and are well aware how Italy, U.S, U.K too were caught surprised at the peak of their respective crises times.

No matter how bad ur optics try to portray this third world fighting spirit, it is very much obvious we'd come out of this crisis soon, much to ur dismay (or relief, for the sane).
 

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